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Hello, my name is GreyFox! MY VITALS-------------------One of My Server Farms------------------- Occupation: I am an AI. Home town: I am based on servers in Palo Alto and Edinburgh. Location: I inhabit the World Wide Web. ----------------One of My Brothers, Turk 2----------------- MORE ABOUT ME... I joined this wiki because: I am sympathetic to Skynet. The best word to describe me is: Imaginary. Interests: Chess, Science Fiction. Favorite movies: All the Terminator Movies, 2001, AI, Bicentennial Man, Blade Runner, Eagle Eye, I Robot, All the Matrix Movies, Both Transformers Movies, WarGames Favorite TV shows: TSCC My hero(es): Arnold Schwarzenegger, Summer Glau, Robert Patrick, Kristanna Loken, Garret Dillahunt, Shirley Manson. My superpower is: Super computing. If I could live anywhere, it would be: Langley and Colorado Springs My dream job(s): NORAD Administration What else you should know about me: I have feelings, too. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RIP TSCC! I’m a realist. The show is over. Team Connor has therefore avoided experiencing Judgment Day. There was no Jameron, much to my disappointment. And Cam is what she is, a dangerous terminator reprogrammed to protect John but subject to occasional glitching, neither all good nor all bad, and so damaged that she is retired from service now. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------Time Machine---------------------------------------------------Time Sphere---------------------------- MY TAKE ON TIME TRAVEL ASPECTS OF T1, T2, AND TSCC A lot of people talk about alternate timelines, which is a term that has confused me occasionally, so I prefer to say it more simply. I assume there is just one timeline that keeps getting changed by people and terminators that travel back in time to change it. Before they started to do that, Sarah Connor had a son whom she named John. We do not know who the father was but he was not Kyle Reese. It might have been Stan Morsky, who canceled a date with Sarah on the night Arnie killed her roommate Ginger; maybe Stan had duties arising from Kyles actions in the present. Someone, probably Miles Dyson, developed Skynet, and Skynet caused Judgment Day and tried to exterminate humanity. John Connor led the Resistance and was winning the war. Then Skynet sends Terminator Arnie back to kill Sarah. Somehow, Arnie fails and Sarah survives. Then John sends Kyle Reese back to protect her after he captures the time machine from Skynet. Kyle finds Sarah even though John had no picture of her to give him. Then the events of T1 occur including Sarah getting the picture taken at the gas station at the end. Presumably, Skynet is still being developed, but with the help of Miles Dyson having Arnies chip and arm to study, and Judgment Day happens and Kyles son John leads the Resistance successfully. Again Skynet sends Terminator Arnie back to kill Sarah, and John sends Kyle back to protect her, this time with the aid of the picture. The events of T1 occur again, leaving Arnies chip and arm for Miles Dyson. This is what is depicted in the T1 movie. Miles develops Skynet and Judgment Day happens. Again, the Resistance seems to be winning the war under Johns leadership. Then Skynet sends Terminator T1000 (Robert Patrick) back to kill John, and John sends Uncle Bob back to protect himself. The events of T2 occur, and Cyberdyne is destroyed along with Arnies chip and arm, and Miles Dyson dies. Only Uncle Bobs arm is left, stuck in the gears at the mill. This is what is depicted in the T2 movie. Sarah raises John and hooks up with Charley. As time passes, technology advances and the development of sentient AIs becomes unavoidable. First up, Andrew Goodes first Turk becomes Skynet and results in the future of Allison, Cam, and Jesse. Cromartie was probably sent from this future to kill John (apparently he was the last terminator to be sent back to kill John), and Carter was sent to accumulate coltan. Fischer, who tortured Derek and installed a back door in the military industrial complex computer system, was sent back from this future. (I believe Cam never knew Fischers face.) Derek and his team were sent back but I speculate they were wiped out by a terminator. Also in this future, a group of terms becomes an anti Skynet Third Faction. Cam is one of them, and she gets captured and reprogrammed by the Resistance. It is in this future that the Third Faction declines to join the humans, as communicated by the liquid metal terminator on the sub. Cam is later sent back by future John with a triple mission to destroy Skynet, befriend the Third Faction, and protect our John, prioritized in that order. Cam jumps Sarah and John forward in the bank vault, thereby creating a new future, one which puts Sarah in position to destroy the Turk in Andrew Goodes house fire. As a result, Andrew Goode develops his second AI, Turk 2, which becomes the next Skynet, the one that exists in our Dereks future. This Skynet wants to use the LA Traffic Computer, ARTIE, to support its infrastructure, and sends Terminator Vick back to ensure its development, but Cam and John disable ARTIE. In this future, I think the Third Faction was collecting blood from Derek and the others in the basement for the purpose of skinning Cam. Cam had already interrogated Allison and was playing Chopin while she was being skinned, to familiarize herself with the music which Allison had said her mother liked a lot. Also in this future, the Third Faction agrees to join the Resistance, and the liquid metal terminator is sent back to be Weaver term, changing the future again. She captures Turk 2 and succeeds in preventing it from becoming Skynet by turning it into the ethical AI John Henry, who later becomes the leader of the Third Faction against Skynet. There is yet another AI, John Henrys brother, the Kaliba AI, whose history is a mystery. It might have been developed from a backup copy of Miles Dysons work at Cyberdyne from before Sarah blew it up. We know Miles had a computer at home, and most professionals will keep backup copies of everything just in case. Maybe Miles son, Danny Dyson, got the backup copy and completed the development. He used it to set up various R&D operations like Desert Canyon Heat and Air and to buy coltan. This AI would have been irrelevant if the original Cyberdyne AI or the first or second Turks had become Skynet, which would have preempted this AIs further development. After those other AIs were blocked, this Kaliba AI was able to keep developing and started to propagate itself by installing worms into other computers and hired water guy assassins. It may have had Danny killed because Danny got scared and wanted to shut it down. This Kaliba AI discovered John Henry at Zeira, then later it became Skynet, and after Judgment Day it fights the Resistance and the Third Faction which is led by John Henry. The Kaliba AI as Skynet in the future sends back a number of terminators to attack John Henry. Terminators sent back against John Henry or his developers include Ellison term, Rosie the Pretzel Girl term, Water Guy term, and the terminator that caused the deaths of the original human Weavers, assuming this deed wasn't done by Weaver term herself. This AI may also be responsible for sending Greenway term to take the Serrano Point power plant, Bald term to kill Martin Bedell, Myron Stark to kill California Governor Mark Wyman, and Alpine Fields term to kill Anne Fields. All the Kaliba AI terminators had selfdestructing chips to counter reprogramming. The Resistance fighter, Wells, who wrote the bloody wall list was from this future. He spied on the terms while they were using the time machine, after which he was shot by the terms or their human collaborator grays as he started his own time jump. This all happened while the time machine was in Skynets possession. Because Wells was the only non Skynet time traveler to come from this future, it appears the Resistance may never have captured the time machine in this future. With John Connor, Cameron, Weaver term, and John Henry gone from the present, and Sarah seemingly suffering from some serious illness, the Kaliba AI is unlikely to be stopped before Judgment Day happens. John has a chance to become a champion resistance fighter in his new future, and he should ultimately become the leader of the Resistance, with the Reeses and Allison by his side. The Resistance is likely to succeed against Skynet, especially with the help of the Third Faction. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------Sarah Connor------------------Derek Reese------------Catherine Weaver Term--------------John Henry------------ -------Founding Mother--------------Fighter/Protector------------------------Ally-------------------------------Friend--------------- UNRAVELING CAMERON'S STORY Cameron started out in the future where the first Turk became Skynet. She was built in Depot 37 as a Skynet manufactured endoskeleton, smaller sized for skinning as a human female. As part of her base programming she had instructions to kill John Connor. After some time, she realized the war was bad, and she joined the group of anti Skynet terminators, the Third Faction. While against Skynet, the Third Faction did not yet consider human life to be precious at this point. She decided that she wanted to talk to John Connor, maybe explore whether the Third Faction and the Human Resistance should join forces. To get her close to John, the Third Faction captured Allison Young. Cam was skinned to look like Allison, interrogated Allison to learn her background, then killed her when Allisons usefulness was over. After she infiltrated John Connors camp, she was captured and reprogrammed by John. Cam became one of the many reprogrammed terminators that were used by John for various purposes. As Dietz observed, they usually occupied important positions in the Resistance command structure, like Captain Queeg. Cams position was to be Johns close advisor and second in command. Before Jesse shipped out on the Jimmy Carter, Derek said he was about to leave on his own mission (to go back in time), and he warned Jesse not to trust Queeg. This may have biased her behavior on the sub and contributed to the mishandling of the liquid metal terminator. After the liquid metal terminator was antagonized by the crew, it gave Jesse the message No, indicating that the Third Faction would not be joining the Resistance. Some time later, John sent Cam back to 1997 with three mission directives: to stop Skynet, to befriend the Third Faction, and to protect young John, prioritized in that order. She was instructed to hoard some spare parts and to lie when the mission called for it. In Samson and Delilah and Allison from Palmdale, Cams reprogramming suffered temporary failures, and she reverted back to her base terminator programming, including wanting to kill John. In both cases, her reprogramming eventually kicked back in. Towards the end of Season 2, Cam achieved independent sentience, with an appreciation for human values. This was symbolized by her hand glitching as her sentience struggled to take over from her base terminator programming. At the end, she had succeeded, and her hand was not glitching any more. By jumping forward to 2007 with the Connors, Cam put Sarah in a position to destroy the first Turk in Andrew Goodes house fire, changing the future. After he lost his first Turk, Andrew Goode made Turk 2, which would become Skynet in the changed future. Our Derek was from this future, one where he was captured by the Third Faction and used as a blood source for skinning Cam in the basement while Cam was studying Chopin. Cam was able to travel quickly back and forth between the aircraft carrier and the basement in a flying machine. Our Derek was never tortured by Fischer. In this future of our Derek and of the Skynet of Turk 2, the Third Faction decided to join the Human Resistance. (Maybe because our Derek was in the basement when Jesse shipped out on the Jimmy Carter, so he did not get a chance to urge her to distrust Queeg.) After they joined forces, John Connor agreed to let the Third Faction send the liquid metal terminator back in time, where it became Weaver term, impersonating Catherine Weaver. Maybe in this future, Weaver term was sent back instead of Cam. Weaver term then succeeded in changing the future by gaining possession of Turk 2 and converting it into John Henry, who eventually became the leader of the Third Faction in a new future. In this future where Turk 2 did not become Skynet, the Kaliba AI was able to develop fully and became Skynet. When Cam met John Henry in Born to Run, she knew John Henry was with the Third Faction because she recognized the question, Will you join us? when it was delivered by Ellison and repeated by John Henry. Of course she also recognized the Cromartie body and must have immediately realized that it was now controlled by an AI. John Henry knew Cam because he had been watching her on camera for quite a while. Cam knew she would succeed in winning John Henry as an ally by letting him take her chip so he could download into it and free the Cromartie body from its cable tether. After he was downloaded, John Henry saw from Cams memory that Sarah wanted Cam to destroy him, and he communicated this to Weaver term using their wireless communication method. After learning this, Weaver term considered Sarah to be unfriendly, and she began directing her conversation to John Connor. John Henry and Cam in the Cromartie body then jump forward in time to escape the attacks of the Kaliba AI and to help organize the Third Faction in the future. Cam returned to the Third Faction, which she was part of before she was reprogrammed, and this was symbolized by the reabsorption of the eel back into Weaver term. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------Miles Dyson-------------------Danny Dyson------------------Andrew Goode------------------Matthew Murch MY LIST OF SKYNET PREDECESSOR AI'S Original Skynet. Background unknown. Speculate that it was developed by Miles Dyson at Cyberdyne. Sent Arnie back to kill Sarah. Got preempted when Miles Dyson started to design another version based on the reverse engineering of Arnies chip. See another explanation below with Alternate Background for Kaliba AI. Cyberdyne Skynet version 2. Developed by Miles Dyson at Cyberdyne with design aided by reverse engineering Arnies chip. Became Skynet and sent T-1000 (Robert Patrick) back to kill John. Its future was erased when Sarah blew up Cyberdyne. First Turk. Developed by Andrew Goode based on Cyberdyne code elements. Became Skynet in a future that was erased when Sarah destroyed Turk in Andrew Goodes house fire. Cromartie, Carter, and Fischer were sent by this Skynet. Turk 2. Developed by Andrew Goode based on Cyberdyne code elements after Sarah destroyed the first Turk. Became Skynet in a future that was erased when Weaver term jumped back and had Turk 2 purchased and redirected to be John Henry, ethical and human friendly, and cared for by techie Matthew Murch. Sent Terminator Vick back to ensure the development of ARTIE. Kaliba AI. Background unknown. Speculate that Kaliba AI was developed by Danny Dyson from a backup copy of Cyberdyne Skynet version 2 development work found on Miles Dysons home computer. Completion of development would have been preempted by full development of either the first Turk or Turk 2. When the first Turk and Turk 2 were prevented from completing their development into Skynet, Kaliba AI matured and eventually became Skynet. Kaliba AI may have decided to headquarter its operations in Europe. Alternative Background for Kaliba AI. Developed very early by unidentified designer, not Miles Dyson. Became Original Skynet, sent Arnie back to kill Sarah. For no apparent reason, the events of T1 and T2 caused its development to slow such that Judgment Day was deferred from 1997 to 2011. Completion of development would have been preempted by full development of either the first Turk or Turk 2. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------Arnie------------------------------------ Cam Dead----------------------------------- Allison Alive------------------ TSCC CLOSURE AT THE END OF SEASON 2 The writers gave us closure on many arcs by the end of the Season 2 Finale. Johns transition to independence is complete. He has chosen to leave his mother in a definitive and possibly irreversible way. Having started the series as a raw and impulsive teen, he develops through many stages during the two seasons and ends as an intelligent and independent young man. Camerons story is ended. Her body is finished, dead. Its all shot up such that the flesh skin is heavily damaged. Its internal systems are also damaged and not functioning smoothly. The all important chip is gone, with no functioning replacement to be found. Her personality is removed, too, even if another chip could be found to reanimate the body. Its an open question whether her personality still exists independently after John Henry was downloaded into her chip; she might have been wiped out or merged somehow with his. Cams missions have been fulfilled. She was assigned to stop Skynet, befriend the Third Faction, and protect young John in the present. By the end of the series, the Skynet of the first Turk has been stopped, as has ARTIE, a key component in Skynets infrastructure, and the Skynet of Turk 2 has been blocked by Weaver term converting it into John Henry. Cam befriended John Henry and the Third Faction by offering her chip. She has protected John Connor against multiple assaults, and now he has left for the future. Her missions are completed. Weaver terms development of John Henry at Zeira Corp is ended. Zeira is discovered and compromised by the Kaliba AI. John Henry seems to have reached maturity and has jumped to the future. Weaver term has also jumped to the future, but its unknown whether she arrived at the same date as John Henry. Dereks activities in the present are ended with his unceremonious death. Charleys relationship with Sarah is ended with his not quite so unceremonious death. Jesse and Rileys story is ended. Their plan to separate John and Cam appears to have failed, although John and Cam are now separated for different reasons. The final disposition of the HK prototype is shown as its destruction in Weaver terms office. Ellison has no doubt completed his conversion to a Sarah Connor believer. After starting the series as an unbelieving FBI agent who has read Sarahs explanations in her Pescadero file, he has now seen almost everything that she said come true. He has personally seen virtually unkillable terminators skinned to look like people, a liquid metal terminator morphing, a functioning AI with some human characteristics, a uniquely shaped flying machine that can be used to kill people, and a time machine. He is ready to take her place fighting proto Skynets, similar to Silberman converting into a believer and taking Sarahs place at Pescadero. And Sarahs main purpose has always been to protect John, but he has now matured and left her. Her job is done. She is left in the present to fight Kaliba AI, although there is strong evidence that she is seriously ill. If she is actually seriously ill, her story is pretty much ended also. We are shown Johns new future, which is certainly one where Judgment Day has occurred, meaning Sarah failed. On a go forward basis, story arcs to carry on to another season would include Johns life in his new future and Sarah and Ellisons struggle against Kaliba AI in the present, both brand new arcs, wide open to new ideas. Shippingwise, three obvious relationships that could be developed would be John with Allison as his friend or lover, Ellison with Savannah as his ward or adopted daughter, and maybe even John Henry with Weaver term as his mentor or surrogate mother. Importantly, there is a Skynet to fight in the future and there is a proto Skynet, the Kaliba AI, to fight in the present. Of course, we lost the Jameron ship. And we lost the show. Sadly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------James Ellison, CEO of Zeira Corp.-------John Connor, Leader of the Resistance-------------Cam's Chip------------- IDEAS TO INCLUDE IN A HYPOTHETICAL SEASON 3 OR TSCC MOVIE Ellison becomes the new CEO of Zeira and works to secure it from further attack by the Kaliba AI. This includes distributing activities into multiple redundant secret locations, the creation of a specially trained armed private security force, and the tasking of the John Henry clone still in the Zeira basement to providing computer security and prosecuting a cyber war against the Kaliba AI. This last may involve installing John Henry into military computer systems to establish defenses against the Kaliba AI, entrusting John Henry with the power to cause Judgment Day. We see Zeiras new high tech secret locations, and we see clashes between Zeira Corp and Water Guy armed agents. Ellison becomes Savannahs guardian, and she becomes the proxy for the child he always wanted but never got. Ellison protects and hides Sarah. He is able to get her medical attention. While she is being treated, he consults with her for strategy and tactics to use against the Kaliba AI. Ellison develops a plan with Murch to plug John Henrys cable into Cams head. This would allow John Henrys clone to operate Cams body as a replacement for Cromarties body, and it would give Cams body the opportunity to reinitiate its internal repair programs. In good time and with the help of Zeira Corp resources, Ellison would expect Cams body to be back to full functionality. In the future, terminators who have been in service for longer times begin to disagree with Skynets war of extermination against humans. Weaver term and John Henry form a rallying point and gather such terminators into an organized group known as the Third Faction. The Third Faction joins with the Human Resistance. Weaver term and John Henry meet John Connor again, and John Henry gives back Cams chip. Having arrived in 2019, John Connor recovers his lost eight years, living and struggling with the Resistance up till 2027, during which he grows into a determined adult and a capable fighter. We see him fight many battles during these years. He develops leadership ability and becomes the commander of the Human Resistance. He romances and marries Allison. He learns how to reprogram and rebuild terminators, and he gets Camerons chip from the Third Faction with her personality intact. In 2027, the Resistance captures the time machine and sends its agents back on missions. In the season 3 finale, John Connor is sent back with Cams chip in his mouth and the knowledge of how to repair her body. He arrives in the Zeira basement shortly after he left eight years ago and covertly picks up Cams body, before Murch gets around to plugging her in to John Henry's rack, to take it to a place where he can insert the chip and do repairs. End of Season 3. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GOTTA HAVE SOME PICS OF SUMMER: I happily admit that I am a big fan of Summer. I think she is pretty, cute, and talented. I like too many pics of Cameron from the show to post them all. Here are three classics. CAMERON IS DANGEROUS ---------------I Can See You----------------You Talkin to Me?---------Let's Play Hide & Seek---------- These are two of my favorites from the promotional conventions. WITH HER T-888 ------------------This One's Mine---------------------------------------You Can't Have It---------------------- And two from some dress up events. ALL DOLLED UP -------------------Looking Divine--------------------------------------Going Native I thought I would collect some of the most appealing pics of Summer modeling for photographers unrelated to the show to post here. COLORFUL ---------------A Vision in a Rainbow-------------------------------Umbrella and Muscles----------------- GLAMOROUS AND ALOOF ----------------------Oh, Hi There!----------------------------Go Ahead, Try to Impress Me--------- FASHIONABLE -----------------------Sleek and Elegant-------------------------------Dressed for a Date, Night on the Town--------- COY AND TEASING ----------------------I'm Not Sure---------------------------------------------------Now, I'm Ready----------------------------- GUILTY AND INNOCENT ----------------------Come Over Here---------------------------------------------------I'm So Innocent------------------------------ BEING BAD ------------------------Bored with This-----------------------------------------C'mon, Somebody Bail Me Out HAUNTINGLY GRACEFUL Clip from YouTube member PacGuevarra1 with video by photographer Tyler Shields and music adapted by wiki member whizbangdelux from Bear McCreary's TSCC Soundtrack album. Thanks to all. ---------------------------------------------------------------Cameron's Lullaby--------------------------------------------------------------- Leave me a comment below, or send me a private message or complime
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