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| Caesis | You didn't get me a smoothie ... (page: 1 2 3 4 5 ... last page) | 199 | Mar 11 2009, 12:59 PM EDT by Caesis | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 2:53 PM EST
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| THX-1138 | Don't overlook the central theme of episode 13 (page: 1 2 3 4 5 ... last page) | 115 | Feb 15 2009, 2:28 PM EST by ZMAN738 | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 2:08 PM EST
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We've known about John Connor's ability to send people back in time for the resistance, and we've even seen this season how other rogue human interests can make it back as well. This latest episode cements the notion that Skynet is -also- fully capable of changing the dynamics of the future and is actively pursuing altering its course. Skynet too is following the "no fate" storyline and building drones NOW, beefing up John Henry NOW, all in an effort to gain the advantage even before or without a so-called Judgement Day.
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| Birdman117 | "I need you. We can be together" (page: 1 2 3) | 40 | Feb 14 2009, 10:53 PM EST by allbline44 | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 10 2008, 6:05 PM EST
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In the preview for episode 13 (Earthlings Welcome Here), Riley is seen saying "I need you. We can be together" to JESSE.
Not sure where this is going. Riley perhaps in love with Jesse? Maybe.
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| SamStaurophobia | So... Is there going to be any Jameron or what? (page: 1 2 3 4) | 65 | Feb 11 2009, 12:57 AM EST by phasee | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 11 2008, 6:06 PM EST
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Or is this just speculation?
Also, will this episode have any plot relevance compared to the last one? Thoughts?
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| Pathway7 | Riley is NOT Dead ! | 8 | Feb 3 2009, 9:51 AM EST by FrenchFanofTSCC | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 4:43 PM EST
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I f you look at the preview john is in the hospital saying to derek "I made the call...live with it"
So she is not dead...and there is definatly not going to be a jameron hook up. At least not this season ..or ever. Think about it John connor leader of the resistance hooks up with a terminator.... doesn't seem quite right... but lets see i am not going to throw it out the window.
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| Veran | "Chip Integrity Compromised" (page: 1 2 3) | 57 | Jan 11 2009, 9:42 PM EST by mpmartin7 | ||||
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Thread started: Jan 6 2009, 5:57 PM EST
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Here's a little theory I've been nursing for a while now:
Cameron was programmed to think in a certain way. Her decisions, actions, everything, is based upon this programming. After the explosion, however, this pre-programmed thought process was blown to hell and back, leaving Cameron more than a little lost in her decision-making. Being damaged and confused, she reverted back to her base settings (Terminate John Connor) because there was nothing to tempt her otherwise. When she was reactivated, Cameron was able to restore some harmony to her otherwise chaotic mind and took a moment to actually consider her options. Her mission was to terminate John, but she values her life and her purpose, which makes her realise that with John dead she will cease to have a purpose. This frightens her. So she chooses not to kill him in favour of a more appealing existence. This done, her mind is still in a state of chaos and incohesion, which means that her decisions and reasoning are no longer dictated by her previously rigid thought process. So one might argue that Cameron, through the damage to her chip, has achieved self-awareness (though it is unclear if she fully understands this yet). This theory is supported by Cameron's apparent re-discovery of herself that we have seen this season. She appears to be advancing significantly in her human mimickry, but she is also developing her own unique persona; one that is prone to thinking outside of the box on a regular basis. Her emotional capabilities are also becoming apparent, as she is most definitely jealous of Riley and seems to be thoroughly miserable with John's behaviour (as miserable as a Terminator can be). Just a theory. Read and reply.
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| flygrrrrl | Official TSCC Episode 13: "Earthlings Welcome Here" Thread (page: 1 2 3 4 5 ... last page) | 623 | Jan 10 2009, 12:08 AM EST by TerminTatorTot | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 2 2008, 10:50 PM EST
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OMG!!! Ratings are down... so they're bringing in the reinforcements?? Sarah attends a UFO convention...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES: Sarah (Lena Headey) attends a UFO Convention looking for answers in the "Earthlings Welcome Here" fall finale episode of TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES airing Monday, Dec. 15 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. © 2008 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: Michael Roberts/FOX
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| LiquidMetal | The Flying Machines (page: 1 2 3 4) | 78 | Jan 7 2009, 11:16 AM EST by Madmachine | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 12:42 PM EST
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Sent from the future by Skynet?
Instructions on assembling these things sent back by Skynet? Are these prototype hunter-killers (HKs)? Was this what Alan and his peers were working on? Are they real or just in Sarah's head?
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| t5000 | Is josh building up to make cameron a villian?? like or not like? (page: 1 2 3 4 5 ... last page) | 103 | Jan 4 2009, 1:08 AM EST by joe33087 | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 18 2008, 8:51 AM EST
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I was over at the writers blog and I found this statement, I will put url 1st so if u want to go over and read it there. it was in the "from the desk of ed winston " which is 2nd article/blog right now.
http://www.fox.com/blogs/terminator/ he [dont know who wrote this] was talking about the last ep and then said this: " Cameron checks Riley’s pulse under the guise of wanting to feel her tattoo. But did you catch what Cameron told John she was thinking of getting tattooed on her body? “A tiger. Or a wolf.” Animals, you might remember, that were specifically held captive on the freighter ship Cameron tortured Allison on in the episode Allison from Palmdale…" he said this as a clue to something coming, and to me it says cameron in her current state remembers the freighter and the animals on it, and maybe everything else? and that could mean she is really still the cameron who broke allisons neck ? and she is just pretending to be johns protector for as of yet unknown reasons. This could be why they dont want to humanize her, and why they dont want her and john to be close , [why cam had that funny look on her face in this last ep , like she just wasnt into it] why she lies about things, why they had her show she overrode her termination order in 2x01. I hope this isnt whats coming, for me it would ruin the show for me especially if this is last season. can u imagine it ending with her bad and getting terminated !!!! LOL so what do u think and what else could they be implying by bringing up the wolf and tiger thing as a clue? please prove my thoughts are wrong.
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| Caesis | What will John do? What will Riley say? (page: 1 2 3 4 5) | 94 | Jan 3 2009, 12:12 PM EST by JMHthe3rd | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 10:41 AM EST
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Now that Riley attempted suicide?
Will they call 911? Will he call Charlie? Will he stay there and try to heal her himself? In the aftermath: Will he be mad a Cameron? Even though we/him know she didn't do it? What will he tell Sarah? What will Riley say to explain what happend? Will she make up some more lies, and continue with her "anti Cameron" mission? Will She tell John the truth? If she lies, and Cameron knows it, will John believe her? If Riley admits to lieing to John, will he let Cameron kill her?
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| Nelzonkrater | "I LOVE YOU JOHN!!!" (page: 1 2 3 4 5 ... last page) | 128 | Dec 31 2008, 11:43 PM EST by Veran | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 6 2008, 9:52 PM EST
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im the first to tread that there is talk about cameron saying "i love you john" in this ep any thoughts?
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| Thecolours | Who is Abraham Really? (page: 1 2) | 25 | Dec 25 2008, 2:13 AM EST by vladimirpoopen | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 18 2008, 5:02 AM EST
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The scene with Sarah, re-playing back the session between Abraham (Alan/Eileen) and Baraba(ufo lady) flipped a switch in my brain. "Abraham" was saying some very cryptic stuff.
Barbara: Does the darkness disturb you? Abraham: No. The secertcy dosen't bother me. Because, I have a secert too. Barbara: And, what's your secert? Abraham: I'm not who they think I am. A few moments later, Abraham is describing the building. Abraham: There's an office in front. No windows. No way to see in or out. Barbara: Does that bother you? Abraham: No, I like not being seen. I don't know who they are. But, that's ok because they don't really know who I am either? Barbara: And who are you? Abraham: haha(evil laugh)..I'm a waitress. "I'm not who they think I am." "They don't really know who I am either" What is Abraham hiding? At the time he was working for this secert company, he wasn't pretending to be a women. So, he's not hiding his gender. Who is he really? He's hiding something so shocking that I think it will be explored in future episodes.
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| Sara1986 | The official "Kyle conspiracy" discussion. (page: 1 2 3 4 5 ... last page) | 103 | Dec 20 2008, 4:24 AM EST by Schmacky | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 2:44 PM EST
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We've all seen Kyle in the trailer of episode 14 where shockingly he not only reaches out to Sarah but very much seems to be alive to someone else too. In anticipation of what may have happened, I'm throwing 4 possibilities into the open. Yes there excist some various threads about Kyle now, but none of them seem to focus purely on a discussion all rather instead being questions by the OP's. Here goes.
OPTIONS FOR KYLE'S APPEARANCE: 1) SARAH SUFFERS FROM PTSD: She's imagining Kyle as a survival mechanism to pull through her situation. The stress got too much for her. While in T2 she was thought to be crazy while she was not (Skynet was to the cast of the films very real), she now would have gone crazy. In T2 it also were the medical drugs, now it are not. 2) FLASHBACK: She's reflecting on an earlier situation, possibly she got wounded in the past (maybe in the mental hospital) and back then saw Kyle in her imagination. Fox loves to make us curious by making trailers that don't make sense. 3) TEMPORAL PARADOX: Some action taken here prevents Kyle's death in the future, resulting into a copy of him excisting in present time due to an alternate timeline bubble-teching to the current timeline. 4) SURPRISE SURVIVAL: Kyle never really died. He may have gotten wounded or may have been told by John (or someone else) in the future just how he would die. For example he may have taken a bullet-proof vest from the police station in T1. He staged his death to ensure John is still raised by Sarah alone to avoid contaminating the timeline. Now that the timeline changed heavily, he has no option but to intervene. So discuss and theorise. What happened in that trailer? Do you think you have a different reason to explain Kyle's presence?
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| notty22 | Whose bedside will John be at Riley or Sarah's ? (page: 1 2) | 29 | Dec 20 2008, 1:42 AM EST by lineman108 | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 18 2008, 12:30 PM EST
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The mid season finale left us with the 2 most important woman in Johns life injured. Severely? Will John feel guilty over the events that lead to either incident? Could he have changed things.
My opinion is this will bring John even closer to Riley, uncovering her true story as she lays fighting for her life.
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| HealingMindN | A titbit on the "Drones" as studied by "Abraham" | 10 | Dec 19 2008, 10:21 AM EST by TerminTatorTot | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 3:56 AM EST
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Have a look at the CARET program at http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/.
It's a disclosure report on the drones that we saw in tonight's ep. There are photos and diagrams galore. The project was carried out in a city very close to me. Oh yes, there are "3 dots" galore when you look for them. One person got a closeup up picture of a drone and found writing with terrestrial data. It turned out that it was data pointing to this page: http://starbase.jpl.nasa.gov/clem1-l-h-5-dim-mosaic-v1.0/cl_6004/hxxx0405/browse/ Someone on the TSCC staff has been obsessing. Time for you to obsess too. Have fun.
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| franktie | Jessie will try to seduce John on her own. (page: 1 2 3) | 54 | Dec 19 2008, 9:50 AM EST by CuthbertAllgood | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 18 2008, 12:16 PM EST
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Riley has failed. Maybe it's time for the mama bird to show how it is done. It can be a secret love triangle that will eventually cause tension between John and Derek.
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| RonBatfreak | The guy is Kyle | 18 | Dec 18 2008, 1:21 PM EST by terminator117 | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 18 2008, 2:10 AM EST
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There a glimpse during the promo showing Sarah strangle him from the back, possibly believing the man is a machine with Kyle's face. Kyle respond by struggling to break free. No hallucination, that guy is a Kyle Reese, but not the one from a timeline who fathered John Connor.
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| CroweMagnum | Is Cameron's Choice for a Tattoo a clever character exposition? (page: 1 2) | 34 | Dec 17 2008, 10:37 AM EST by Caesis | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 4:56 PM EST
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I was wondering if the writers were throwing a hint in the otherwise innocuous tattoo comment in Episode 13? It seems to me that deamscapes are
prevalent throughout show. So I fired up an online dream interpreter and keyed in Wolf and Tiger respectively. ** Tiger To see a tiger in your dream, represents power and your ability to exert it in various situations. The dream may also indicate that you to take more of a leadership role. Alternatively, the tiger represents female sexuality, aggression, and seduction To dream that you are attacked by a tiger, symbolizes repressed feelings or emotions that frighten you. To see a caged tiger in your dream, suggests that your repressed feelings/emotions are on the verge of surfacing. ** ** Wolf To see a wolf in your dream, symbolizes beauty, solitude, mystery, self-confidence and pride. It is also a symbol of survival. You are able to keep your composure in a variety of social situations and can blend in with any situation with ease and grace. You are a loner by choice. Negatively, the wolf represents hostility and aggression. It may reflect an uncontrollable force or situation in your life. To see a white wolf in your dream, then it signifies valor and victory. You have the ability to see the light even in your darkest hours. To dream that you kill a wolf, indicates betrayal and secrets being revealed. ** As I read them I saw how they could match up to all kinds of conspiracy and/or character theories about Cameron. So was it just a passing comment, as it's face value suggests. Or (and it would be my hope) That the writers tipping their had a bit saying "Hey watch out there's lots more to Cameron than meets the eye, and someday, and if your patient you will get to see what we mean"
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| Joeroger1 | Episode 13 ratings | 13 | Dec 16 2008, 7:32 PM EST by DavidB1111 | ||||
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Thread started: Dec 16 2008, 12:38 PM EST
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http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/12/16/monday-ratings-big-bang-theory-and-how-i-met-your-mother-continue-climb/9649
A little better than last week's.
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| Maria17B | So does anybody else like Jesse? (page: 1 2) | 31 | Dec 16 2008, 5:18 PM EST by Riverfan | ||||
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I actually like Jesse, it seems that everyone hates her, even more than Riley, but I don't know... she doesn't bother me at all, I like her strong character. Granter she's trying to rid John of Cameron and that's a boo factor but I like her!
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