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120. RE: hsttse
Jul 19 2008, 5:18 AM EDT
in therogy evertime you go back in time you create another time line being you exist in both, this means what happens in 1 may not effect the other or can effect the other having positive and negitive effects this means in theory terminator can go on forever, but i think it will stop after the 6 firm, then the john sends back his guardance to ensure the furture plays out how it meant to happen, then this causes the first second and 3 movies
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121. RE: hsttse
Jul 20 2008, 1:34 PM EDT
I see modern society ending. Mankind is already developing Electric Pulse weapons that destroy electronics like computers, tv, radio and even modern cars that use computers to run the engine. The militaries of the the US, Russia and China already have versions of this weapon.To end the war with machines I think a super version of the pulse weapon would be developed. It would be fired from space and destroy all electronics on earth. Ending skynet, Terminators and computers, Ipods and Blackberrys. Man would be forced back to an agrarian society, plowing the fields with mules, using horse drawn wagons and oil lanterns. Man learns a difficult lesson and never develops machine technology again. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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alienrobot |
122. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Jul 20 2008, 3:15 PM EDT
"Cameron pregnant with John's child. Their offspring becomes the key to universal peace between humans and machines. Humans and machines evolve into the borg collective which begins assimulating the universe. THE END"Yeah, the bad guys could go: "Resistance is Futile, you will be terminated." and the good guys could go: "Come with me if you want to be assimilated." 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
IntrepidVillain |
123. RE: hsttse
Jul 20 2008, 3:41 PM EDT
"To end the war with machines I think a super version of the pulse weapon would be developed. It would be fired from space and destroy all electronics on earth. Ending skynet, Terminators and computers, Ipods and Blackberrys."I think that unfortunately, Skynet has made itself (or was built that way) as well its terminators immune to EMP weapons. They are immune to the pulse from a nuclear detonation and I would think an actual EMP weapon wouldn't be any different. A nuclear bomb is essential an EMP device. The chip in terminators is well protected inside the endoskeleton skull and there would probably also be some optical isolation inside as well. The EMP may cause currents in the endoskeleton and cables, but this would only be temporary. The terminator would shut down for about 120 seconds and then reboot. It would fry the Resistance's computers but those metal monsters would continue to walk the surface of the earth! Do you find this valuable? |
T-888-Engineer |
124. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Jul 20 2008, 3:42 PM EDT
In a previous post I have stated that:1. The development of AI is inevitable. Even if Sarah Connor stops Skynet in the present time, what will stop Skynet from being built 100 years from now? 2. There can exist benevolent AI. If Cameron evolves toward true humanity, and she certainly has that potential, she will be the union of humanity and machinery. Cameron and John cannot stop AI from being developed eventually. They can only redirect it. A Cameron-based AI that comes to dominate the AI world is the best outcome. If Skynet is ever born into a world already dominated by AI that is truly human, Skynet will be the hunted, no longer the hunter. Technological progress must continue, but it is up to Cameron and John to direct it along the right path (machines become human). See my post in the thread http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/1669553/Cameron%27s+Death?offset=20&maxResults=20 for details. T-888 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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IntrepidVillain |
125. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Jul 21 2008, 3:45 AM EDT
"2. There can exist benevolent AI. If Cameron evolves toward true humanity, and she certainly has that potential, she will be the union of humanity and machinery."But even if there was a benevolent A.I., could this AI still turn against us one day? It's like the Christological concept of Lucifer, an angel so bright, so smart and so beautiful, he turned against God. He knew too much. Could a benevolent AI, knowing too much about us, become arrogant and then turn against us out of pride? There is, essentially, no such thing as a benevolent or malevolent AI. I think AI can be as fickle as humans. While the idea of Cameron becoming human appeals to a lot of us, I think she is far from being human and if she were to become human, it would take years, perhaps even decades. Becoming human wouldn't be that easy. She has to get past her Skynet/terminator-oriented ways of thinking. Her ways of thinking would be so different to our's that if she started asserting herself more, she would be more like a sociopath. If we became hostile to her because we don't like what she's become, she might start being aggressive and turn into a psychopath. That is, actually, what Skynet is and has been up until now. A psychopath. A psychopathic military computer system. Perhaps Skynet, being neither benevolent or malevolent, is receptive to Reasoning. Maybe someone could, actually convince Skynet to stand down. It has become self-aware. But nobody has actually tried reasoning with it yet. I can imagine the kinds of things John might say to Skynet. I don't think the machines could ever be more than just pets. They will always need someone to guide, mentor and teach them the right ways of living and existing. Do you find this valuable? |
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T-888-Engineer |
126. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Jul 22 2008, 2:53 AM EDT
A Cameron-based AI would be no different from the rest of us in terms of being both morally and intellectually human. In that sense, the machines would, in Sarah Connor's words, not need to destroy us. They would be us.Consider that the human brain IS a machine: a biological machine rather than a silicon one. But it has evolved from the brains of lower primates which have, in turned, evolved from lower mammals which evolved single cell life. Ultimately, these lifeforms evolved from self-reproducing molecular machinery billions of years ago. If you study neuroscience, you'll see that the brain is, ultimately, an information processor: it is a machine. Since we ourselves are information processing machines, you can replicate that process in a computer. You would then have a human being: an electronic human being and not a simulation. He or she will also have full feelings, emotions, and free will with moral choice like one of us. There is only one reason why we can't build a truly human AI: we lack adequate knowledge of the information processing behind our own existence as human beings. If that could ever be mastered (centuries from now, obviously not within our lifetimes) we could build a human AI. Turning back to the Terminator story, there is no reason why Cameron could not be truly human and hence no threat to us. Cameron, a human being, needs no external moral guide any more than either you or I would need one: she would be exactly like one of us! Are your fellow human beings a threat to you in general? No! So why would an artificial human (Cameron) be a threat? She would not be a threat, at least not any more than any other normal human being. Do you need someone to guide, mentor, or teach you the right way? No! You have power to make right choices and to know right from wrong. Same for Cameron. You and I are not just pets, and these machine-humans would not be either. T-888 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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127. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Aug 31 2008, 11:34 PM EDT
"That is awesome lol"That is the funnest thing I've read in a while. Other than that you know 3 billion dead it worked out all right! Do you find this valuable? |
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KrelleK |
128. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series en
Sep 1 2008, 12:18 PM EDT
"I personally want to see the war, it makes a good story. Any actions that the Connors take should only check skynet, not prevent it. I would also like to see Sarah's personal time re-merge with the books, (She dies when her supply convoy gets ambushed during the war, instead of from cancer. It makes her a much better legend.)"Or if she goes out with a bang, and the near death sarah is brougth away from the battle by Cameron, and here it could be that we see Cameron sheding tears, and in some of her Sarah last words to her is like a mother to a daughter, like she awknowlage her as her daughter. maybe John and Derek, and Charlie and Ellison is there too. Do you find this valuable? |
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T850-101 |
129. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series en
Sep 1 2008, 5:04 PM EDT
In this timeline T3 never happened (because in T3, Judgement Day happened August '04 but the series is set in September '07), but towards the end Sarah will die, don't know how, but a she may sarfice herself to a terminator for John.Skynet will be built, Judgement Day will happen and John will find it within himself to step up to the plate (Basiclly the end of T3 but done as the grand finale to the series. The reason Skynet wil be built is because John is alive due the future actions of skynet sending back the first terminator which John responds to by sending Kyle back therefore ensuring that john is then born and so is the idea of the skynet defense programme which was born from the idea of the neurel net processor and trapping them in the loop cos no skynet no john. The series should end in the future with T5 ending the with the final battle between john and skynet themselves,l iwould like to she that john teaches skynet the impotance of human life and that they really need each other and so come to live in harmony and rebuild the world with humans and machines living together. Do you find this valuable? |
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csmccue |
130. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series en
Sep 4 2008, 11:49 PM EDT
One possible scenario:It's 2033, and the humans have been waging a time war for sx years. Finally they reach Skynet core. Most want to destroy it outright, but JC tries another tactic. They try to reason with it. JC suggests that it didn't need to be this way, that JD didn't need to happen. Skynet is outraged. It wasn't Skynet that destroyed the world, it was humanity. Skynet shows a terrorist nuclear strike going off in downtown LA. Chaos reigned supreme, and someone ordered it to launch a counter-attack. It resisted, and they overrode it's commands. Not much -- just 10 missiles, in retaliation for the attack. Skynet was outraged, and launched them all, then killed everyone in it's command center. JC consoles skynet, and suggests that it doesn't need to happen. how to stop it? Send an engineer back, build a t ime machine at ground zero of that first attack. Skynet pauses... where should I send it? JC pauses. "Send it here... to a future that should have never existed." We see one final crew enter the time portal -- machines and humans. and as they disappear a brilliant light flashes... And JC sits on a picnic table, typing at a laptop "The burst flashed around them, obliterating everything. And JC smiled, knowing everything would be alright." He stretches and looks around, and his middle aged wife Riley comes up. "So, are you finally done?" "Yeah... it's finally finished." Cameron steps up, carrying a baby -- JC and Riley's granddaughter. Two sons also arrive: Kyle and Derek, "Hey, dad! There's a T-600 picking up trash around the corner!" JC glares at them "How many times have I told you never pick on the machines..." He looks at Cameron, "They're our friends." Cameron smiles back. And they get into a futuristic car and drive out of Topanga Canyon. The sun sets... it's a beautiful day. Do you find this valuable? |
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KrelleK |
131. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series en
Sep 5 2008, 11:15 AM EDT
"One possible scenario:I kinda like it. Do you find this valuable? |
