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hawaiianfan
20. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series en
Feb 1 2008, 8:52 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 1 2008, 8:52 PM EST
One of the producers of T-4 says SCC leads into T-4 supposedly....which is coming out next summer in '09. Not sure how that's gonna work out, but if Cameron's had John and Sarah leap to 2007, then T-3 may never take place, new timeline, no need for Arnie, not yet at least.... 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
JohnReese
JohnReese
21. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 2 2008, 12:53 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2008, 12:53 AM EST
"How I want the series to end:

The plan to stop skynet has failed. John, Sarah, and Cameron are on the run as the machine revolution is almost at hand. John realizes that skynet is going to win. He will be terminated and is he on the run from many terminators. He and Cameron have a romantic relationship. John realizes that the only way to survive and evade being found by the terminators is to use Cameron to destroy them in a suicidal type fight. Sarah, his mother, is mortally wounded in the escape attempt. So is Cameron. Her eyes and machinery slowly twitching and dying at the aftermath of the battle. Alone. Just like a discarded pawn piece, lying on the ground as another sacrifice in the board game between John and Skynet. Her last moment is a tear coming from her eye, something she thought she could never do, thus dying human.

John is alone, but having become a man at being willing to sacrifice valuable pieces, like pawns, to ensure success. Just as skynet begins Judgement day, John Conner also rises, the strong and tough leader of the resistance.

Geeky "
That was great HF08! Not bad of an ending.
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JohnReese
JohnReese
22. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 2 2008, 12:55 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2008, 12:55 AM EST
well said dude! Thanks for the comment Kyle_Reese! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
JohnReese
JohnReese
23. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 2 2008, 12:59 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2008, 12:59 AM EST
"don't know if they can ever prevent the judgement day....
but it'd be nice if sarah doesn't die of cancer and if she can reunite with kyle reese somehow so john, poor thing can finally have a father
and john find kate brewster....get hitched.....at least a semi-happy ending even if 3 billion unfortunately die
"
I hope they dont kill sarah in this series but in sense they are leaving out T3 in this series we might get our wish hawaiianfan .
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TerminatorPodcast
TerminatorPodcast
24. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 2 2008, 12:28 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2008, 12:28 PM EST
While I know all of these series are "echoes" back to the previous film, I'd really like to see something different/dynamic for the end of this series. Remember, that the groundwork here is to make the series a bookend for what is the second film "era". I think there are many ways to do that that would put a period at the end of this era's sentence and allow something like a T4 to use the knowledge and lore of this short television series to make something very solid, but ORIGINAL.

We don't need another movie that the creators have no interest in referring to - we need the groundwork laid for the exclamation point at the end of a sentence and series, in my opinion.
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HF08
HF08
25. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 2 2008, 7:21 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2008, 7:21 PM EST
"While I know all of these series are "echoes" back to the previous film, I'd really like to see something different/dynamic for the end of this series. Remember, that the groundwork here is to make the series a bookend for what is the second film "era". I think there are many ways to do that that would put a period at the end of this era's sentence and allow something like a T4 to use the knowledge and lore of this short television series to make something very solid, but ORIGINAL.

We don't need another movie that the creators have no interest in referring to - we need the groundwork laid for the exclamation point at the end of a sentence and series, in my opinion."
I agree. Then you can do what the Star Trek series does, which is reboot. Thanks for the positive comments everyone.

Geeky
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LetsGetReal74
LetsGetReal74
26. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series en
Feb 4 2008, 10:11 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2008, 10:11 AM EST
I think the show should end with the death of Sarah Connor. As the show is underline titled "The Sarah Connor Chronicles".

I made my own theory of episode events. I'm sure I'm way off but it was fun to write.

My theory:

1. Sarah, John and Cameron unite with rebels from the future to prevent the war and fight off several Terminators sent to ensure the war. While at the same time also fighting off Terminators sent to kill John and his future rebel team.
2. The recording made by the scientist is found & the creation of Skynet still comes to fold.
3. Cameron has a face off with the T-800 and wins the battle. Later episodes she faces of with the T-100 and looses a few limbs but still wins. And near episode end Cameron is killed off by a pre-version TX model while the remaining rebels help Sarah and John escape the time line. Cameron is destroyed in 2007, sacrificing her existence for the safety of John.
4. Sarah still develops leukemia due to her overly stressed life while not being able to prevent the inevitable as it seems as she and John are returned to their own time line by the rebels. A rebel knows of another hidden location where Cameron hid the second time device. And of course for a one round trip like in episode one.
5. As the rebel stays in 2007 to complete his mission, Sarah and John are sent to their own time line and continue on the run trying to destroy all the people and places that the rebels told them that had to be extinguished. They proceed on a mission to fix the time line in thus another futile effort to prevent the war and the events of 2007. (paradox.. I know)
6. Episode ends with Sarah in the hospital on her last breath as John bids his mother farewell as she forces him to leave her wanting to die alone and for him to keep moving due to the possibility of a Terminator being present in any time line. He eventually finds a way to get entirely off the map and thus we have Terminator 3.
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hopeofthefuture2029
hopeofthefuture2029
27. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series end?
Feb 4 2008, 12:16 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2008, 12:16 PM EST
with Arnold Schwarzenegger Killing John as he said he did in T3 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
kymeric
kymeric
28. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series end?
Feb 5 2008, 7:37 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2008, 7:37 PM EST
The Tv show should end with skynet prevented and some kind of wierdo cult/organization set up to guard humans from AI. Cuz really how long is John gonna live? 80 years tops, if hes lucky, wut if skynet is born 15 yrs from now, were screwed.

The movie franchise should end with the end of the war and Conner standing in the rubble with everyone cheering. That or the destruction of skynet ending with the terminators from the first 3 movies being sent thru as skynets last gasp, and Old John or his wife sending 2 Arnolds and a Cameron thru to protect younger john and Sarah. ^.^

This is a great chance to have our cake and eat it too. Bad future and happy ending can be played out in both mediums.
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kymeric
kymeric
29. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series end?
Feb 5 2008, 7:47 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2008, 7:47 PM EST
Late thought, how about the fall of skynet in the post apocalypse future with the Ironic twist of Techcom sending terminators in the past througout history to terminate any AI or terminators? ^.^ 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SpaceTrucker
SpaceTrucker
30. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 6 2008, 1:24 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 6 2008, 1:24 AM EST
Here's another one, we find out that by keeping John alive and with all his meddling around, he was the cause it was occuring to begin with. That one terminator we seen reprogramming the T-1 was there to get them to destroy the Skynet and everything with it and was sent by another machine, after it finally realized that it couldn't win if it killed off the human population because after all is said and done, it still needs us to keep it going. Without humans the machines don't run! That other machine that sent the terminator back to do this was the one we seen the kid building in his house, since it figured it out after it finally finished beating itself for the last time in chess. John only had to stay alive long enough for his kid to be born so they would have enough to repopulate after the bombs destroyed most everything else. We'll find out in T4 that there is another guy/gal somewhere also being protected by yet another team of terminators so their kid can become John's kids spouse. It all has something to do with their blood lines. 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

BigKurz
31. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 6 2008, 2:07 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 6 2008, 2:07 AM EST
As a (surprisingly) few of you have said, T3 is not really "canon" at all and it appears that part of the agenda of SCC is to write it out of the story.

a) Sarah will probably stay alive (at least, she won't die from cancer)
b) John doesn't have to get "off the grid" at all. Obviously this is probably going to change, but no robot/terminator but cramartie really knows where he is or who he is.
c) We don't really know Cameron's "purpose" in helping John this time around

With all the probs T3 introduced, I really hope it IS true that they are essentially writing T3 out of it. Also, that whole T3 angle of "Skynet is JUST software" probably needs to be eliminated, as that is ALSO inconsistent with the main Terminator story.

That should also mean no Kate Brewster at all--was that character EVER in the novels and such? And if she has to fight Cameron for John's love, I think we know the outcome....
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BigKurz
32. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator serie
Feb 6 2008, 2:11 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 6 2008, 2:11 AM EST
"As a (surprisingly) few of you have said, T3 is not really "canon" at all and it appears that part of the agenda of SCC is to write it out of the story.

a) Sarah will probably stay alive (at least, she won't die from cancer)
b) John doesn't have to get "off the grid" at all. Obviously this is probably going to change, but no robot/terminator but cramartie really knows where he is or who he is.
c) We don't really know Cameron's "purpose" in helping John this time around

With all the probs T3 introduced, I really hope it IS true that they are essentially writing T3 out of it. Also, that whole T3 angle of "Skynet is JUST software" probably needs to be eliminated, as that is ALSO inconsistent with the main Terminator story.

That should also mean no Kate Brewster at all--was that character EVER in the novels and such? And if she has to fight Cameron for John's love, I think we know the outcome...."
To better answer the original question, I think that SCC will end directly before (or even on) Judgement Day.

I think that they (Sarah and John) will know the actual day and try to stop it. But I think they will fail. They will then figure out a way to survive...and then the screen will go black with MM/DD/YY: Judgement Day.

IMO, T4 will likely start with the bombs going off. As mentioned, I also think T3 is being written out of the series, so this would allow T4 to show JD. But who knows?
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sidspappy
sidspappy
33. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator seri
Feb 7 2008, 2:39 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2008, 2:39 PM EST
With questions of the ratings and "evidence" of Fox wanting to cancel the show, I'm afraid that we may never even get that far. They may be able to wrap up a storyline in one season, provided they plan for it, and not just "pull the plug," like so many other series.

I think the only way SCC can end is at or just after Judgment Day. Sarah has to die. The end has to set John up as ready to start the rebellion, and I don't think he can do it with Mommy standing there behind him. Terminator: Salvation is rumored to be start of a new storyline, moving away from John Connor (further evidence is Christian Bale will have his hands full with more Batman and won't be able to headline another franchise), so John's storyline is going to have to be wrapped up pretty quickly.
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SpaceTrucker
SpaceTrucker
34. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator ser
Feb 7 2008, 4:01 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2008, 4:01 PM EST
I'll be one of them that will be highly upset if they "Terminate" the series at least until the end of the season, I really want to see how all this plays out and ties in with T:3 in the end. I seriously doubt that they will "kill off John Connor", even though in T:3 it mentions that Arnold "terminated" him. With T:4 on the horizon, there has to be more to the story than what we've been lead to believe thus far. Sarah does have to die though, as it wouldn't make any sense with the T:3, this, from what I understand, is supposed to bring us up to that point, hopefully it will be done before it's cut. Having it on simultaneous with Jericho doesn't help matters any either though. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SpaceTrucker
SpaceTrucker
35. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator se
Feb 7 2008, 4:05 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2008, 4:05 PM EST
Nor did cutting this off to put on the presidents speech, had it been on a wednesday night instead, we wouldn't have to had worried about that and the plus there would have been it would have been the only thing worth watching that night. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SpaceTrucker
SpaceTrucker
36. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator s
Feb 7 2008, 4:14 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2008, 4:14 PM EST
Also, with the preminatory dreams that Sarah has about the bombs going off and seeing all those people in the playground dying in front of her, has to tie in somewhere. It always explained to me how she dies of cancer instead of from the blast as everyone else does in those scenes, although it doesn't really make sense to me why she doesn't die then too. Maybe this is going to show exactly that instead of her dying of cancer as told elsewhere in the movies. I can forsee Sarah and Cameron going to the future to stop the bombs and John going back to his time line to return to it in the end of this series, only she fails and John has to go on without them. 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

hawaiianfan
37. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator seri
Feb 7 2008, 7:34 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2008, 7:34 PM EST
"With questions of the ratings and "evidence" of Fox wanting to cancel the show, "
Nooooo! I don't want this series to end! They barely even got to do anything....they need at least 3 seasons or 2 if it must end.
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TeeRacy
TeeRacy
38. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 8 2008, 11:41 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2008, 11:41 AM EST
""Humans and machines evolve into the borg collective which begins assimulating the universe. THE END"

um...Battlestar Galactica, much?? "
Battlestar Galactica? I thought the Borg Collective was on Star Trek Next Generation?
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sidspappy
sidspappy
39. RE: This is a question to the fans.How should the terminator series
Feb 8 2008, 3:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2008, 3:51 PM EST
"Battlestar Galactica? I thought the Borg Collective was on Star Trek Next Generation? "
Ha, ha! It's all the same, anyway. The Borg (Star Trek) want to conquer (assimilate) the Universe, the Cylons (Battlestar Galactica) want to kill all humans to rule the Universe. Hey, have you heard? Skynet wants to kill all humans and rule the Earth!

What's with all the hating on humans? Aren't we cool? I mean, we don't go around creating artificial life, and playing God, do we?

Oh. Forget I said anything. Kill us all now...
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