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VodkaPowered
VodkaPowered
20. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Mar 13 2008, 6:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 13 2008, 6:48 PM EDT
T-1000 is probably better at recon, the ability to turn into ANY thing is great for that
T-X is the better combat model, by far
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Allumino
Allumino
21. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Mar 15 2008, 6:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 6:45 PM EDT
I believe that the T-X has more capabilities than the T-1000 but more weaknesses as well. The T-1000 is also better at stealth. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
22. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Mar 15 2008, 6:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 15 2008, 6:46 PM EDT
T-1000 owns! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
ghettosaiyan
ghettosaiyan
23. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Apr 2 2008, 8:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2008, 8:35 PM EDT
I think the T-1000 was meant to be better than the T-X if you consider what happened in T1 and T2 to alter the original timeline. Because a T-800 model traveled back in time and was reversed engineered in T2 it made possible for more advance technology in the present time and even more advanced for the future. That's why a T-1000 was sent back this time to get John. But because the old T-800's hand and cpu along with Cyberdyne was destroyed, the technology was no longer available and in a way regressed future technology leaving things to develope normaly as before the events of T1. T-X seems to be a mid-way proto-type to the T-1000. With Dyson dead and someone else leading the project you have to expect some variations with the T models and that would explain the built in weapons she has and possible future T-1000s will have... 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

diducArealBrightLite
24. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Apr 2 2008, 11:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2008, 11:01 PM EDT
T-1000. Just liked it better Do you find this valuable?    
LaLongeCarabine
LaLongeCarabine
25. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Apr 2 2008, 11:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2008, 11:34 PM EDT
Not sure that the Audio Book of the movie T3 is very accurate, but,,,,,
Arnold was a T-101, and a T-800, and also a T-850. His wieght was 200 kg and TX 150 kg.
The TX was also stated to be later design than T-1000. The book also said that T-600 and T-800 were already on the drawing boards. One error in the book was that Arnold had "dura-plas" skin and didn't bleed but I'm fairly sure that T-800 + have living tissue on the outside.

/me shrugging
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Suicidesamuraiz
26. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Apr 2 2008, 11:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2008, 11:40 PM EDT
He was a T-800 model #101 in part 1&2, and a T-850 model #101 in T3. As I understand it, model means "skin." 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
LaLongeCarabine
LaLongeCarabine
27. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Apr 3 2008, 12:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 3 2008, 12:04 AM EDT
"He was a T-800 model #101 in part 1&2, and a T-850 model #101 in T3. As I understand it, model means "skin." "
OK I'll buy that for a dollar but what about his skin?
Plastic or alive?
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Suicidesamuraiz
28. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Apr 3 2008, 1:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 3 2008, 1:11 AM EDT
Cyborg= flesh.

As for "skin," I meant in reference to what he looked like. Example, "I just got a sweet skin for me cell-phone."

I htink that it is T2 where he explains that he is a T-800 model 101... kinda like a Ford Mustang, convertable, with a green paint-job
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kubby
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29. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Apr 4 2008, 4:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 4 2008, 4:00 PM EDT
I fixed a couple spelling mistakes. I love the page! Do you find this valuable?    

krylite
30. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Aug 27 2008, 1:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 27 2008, 1:51 AM EDT
Probably the T-1000 is more advanced by far, probably too advanced. T-X controls it's nano-metal alloy with it's cpu, while T-1000 cpu "skynet code" is replicated in each cell of it's form. The technology to create the T-1000 is close to god-like. Imagine an intelligence able to create Odo's race in Star Trek DS9., Not the shapeshifters themselves, but a creator of the shapeshifters. Skynet wouldn't have had that much trouble if it could mass produce T-1000's , a whole new life form. (T3 novel tries to explain away by saying they(T-1000's) were easily defeated by plasma weapons and heat). I'd always felt T-1000 was a side effect of current CGI technology( "look we can morph 3-d graphic images now!") rather than totally conceptually designed as fictional sci-fi character. But Cameron made it work, with clever scripting, directing and giving it enough fantastical weaknesses. It could as well have been made of a radioactive unknown element in which only temperatures from a supernova could melt it. The T-X's nano technology and control of liquid metal was far less advanced. Anyways, there shouldn't have been a T-1000 just hardware robots.( A skynet which could make T-1000's would have the technology to turn all the air in the world into terminator infected molecules killing the whole tech-com resistance instantly. )But Cameron beat Lucas to morphing 3D with a real character while Lucas' efx companies come out with the technology, but Lucas can never direct or write a real character involving visual effects.(jar-jar vs. gollum) Do you find this valuable?    
Nekrosis
Nekrosis
31. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 17 2009, 7:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2009, 7:09 PM EDT
The T-X would win against the T-1000 in a fight (or so they say with the T-X vs T-1002 training fight), but it's very disappointing as an advanced model. The T-1000 was real development since it shared pretty much none of it's predecessors weaknesses, the T-X, however, not so much. It got some of the endoskeletal Terminator's weaknesses back. They tried to get the best of both worlds, but ended up with the worst of one world screwing the other one up. Skynet (or the writers) should have stuck with Mimetic Poly-Alloy and refined it. They would almost definitely come up with a way to integrate weapons sometime.

Going back to the training fight between X and 1002, it made absolutely no sense! The T-Xs plasma weapon of "Advanced properties" still wouldn't have done much good to the liquid metal Terminator. So what if it's heat? It's only momentary heat. The original T-1000 was only Terminated because he stayed in the molten steel for too long (he was struggling for about 5-8 seconds before he was completely destroyed). No matter how advanced the weapon was, it couldn't have killed the T-1002 and still be called plasma.

EDIT: Crap, sorry for reviving this thread. I'm used to forums and stuff with threads which were arranged by date. I just stumbled into this one in the search, sorry again.
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TOK792
TOK792
32. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 17 2009, 7:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2009, 7:18 PM EDT
"Going back to the training fight between X and 1002, it made absolutely no sense! The T-Xs plasma weapon of "Advanced properties" still wouldn't have done much good to the liquid metal Terminator. So what if it's heat? It's only momentary heat. The original T-1000 was only Terminated because he stayed in the molten steel for too long (he was struggling for about 5-8 seconds before he was completely destroyed). No matter how advanced the weapon was, it couldn't have killed the T-1002 and still be called plasma.

EDIT: Crap, sorry for reviving this thread. I'm used to forums and stuff with threads which were arranged by date. I just stumbled into this one in the search, sorry again."
The T-X's plasma weapon has properties capable of burning far quicker than standard phased plasma, due to it being developed as the perfect anti-Terminator Terminator. So think of it as having the same effect of a concentrated burst of molten steel that burns 10 times quicker.
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SageManic
SageManic
33. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 17 2009, 8:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2009, 8:10 PM EDT
Nobody here mentioned that the T-X has the ability to reprogram other terminators. In T3 when Arnold got knocked out by the T-X, it then used a tool from its finger to corrupt his programming. Do you find this valuable?    
randomicity912
randomicity912
34. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 17 2009, 8:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2009, 8:10 PM EDT
T-1000 is better in terms of defence and infiltration abilities. T-X is better in terms of offence. If a T-1000 were to go up against a T-X, then I would think the T-X would win. Do you find this valuable?    
ChrisCoachKKincey
ChrisCoachKKincey
35. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 17 2009, 8:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2009, 8:11 PM EDT
"T-1000:
Can flatten itself into a floor
Can pass through small openings
Can form blades and stabbing weapons
Can make his front his back and vice versa
Uses a cop as its default form
Can regenerate lost bodyparts

T-X:
Can use advance weaponry such as plasma canons
Can take shotgun hits without geting stunned
Is triple jointed
Can control other machines

"
"Can control other machines."

The T-X has that advantage - depending upon the technology that is used to actually gain control (if it will work on the liquid metal T-1000. Also, the T-X is a Terminator designed to terminate Terminators. That doesn't bode well for CW & co.

And we don't know why Skynet (had) to build a T-X. T-1000 and others may have gone rogue and had to be put in check. Since they never fought, we don't know what either of their full capabilities are. Would be interesting to see!
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MMM.MIND
MMM.MIND
36. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 17 2009, 8:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2009, 8:43 PM EDT
"T-1000:
Can flatten itself into a floor
Can pass through small openings
Can form blades and stabbing weapons
Can make his front his back and vice versa
Uses a cop as its default form
Can regenerate lost bodyparts

T-X:
Can use advance weaponry such as plasma canons
Can take shotgun hits without geting stunned
Is triple jointed
Can control other machines

"
T-1000 is better

Shirley Manson is great
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Enigma6482
Enigma6482
37. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 17 2009, 9:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2009, 9:25 PM EDT
Now are you saying which one is better in a fight or better for Skynet? While both have their advnatages and disadvantages I've read in a few places that authors/writers have surmised that the T-1000 (or T-1001 in Catherine Weavers case) were very unpredictable as far as Skynet control was concerned. So much so that you had at least one leave Skynet and turn against it creating a rebel Terminator faction. I'm thinking the T-X may have been created (with an endoskeleton and main CPU and what not) so that Skynet could better control them. T-1000 is probably harder (but not impossible) to kill. I would say that eventual damage from sustained plasma rifle fire would probably destroy a T-1000 eventually. Do you find this valuable?    
TXfan
TXfan
38. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 17 2009, 10:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 17 2009, 10:13 PM EDT
"as far as pure killing goes, T-X all the way. T-1000 is good but some circumstances it will just be useless. remember the particle accelerator? only a T-X could have survived & escaped that. T-1000 would not be able to retain its solid forms & as for the 800s models, they would be stuck on the accelerator unable to move. you could just pop its chip out
also, shot gun could slow the T-1000 down, can't do that with T-X"


Yah, I agree this.

While T-1000 was very effective, it had a few very major drawbacks. The T-X had some very powerful built in weapons, and it;s ability to control things made it extremely deadly."
I essentially agree with this. The T-X's ability to control other machines I think gives her a slight edge over the T-1000
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toasty2
toasty2
39. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 1:26 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 18 2009, 1:26 AM EDT
I choose the T-1000 (or preferably the 1001, because the original one wasn't very creative).

I'm kinda disappointed that we have never seen terminators sniping their targets. They have all the patience in the world...why not hide in the bushes somewhere on a hill and pick off the target? Its hard to miss. Hard to fail.
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