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CamDer |
40. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 1:31 AM EDT
I would have to choose the T-1000
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Enigma6482 |
41. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 1:32 AM EDT
"I choose the T-1000 (or preferably the 1001, because the original one wasn't very creative).hhmm...interesting though...A Terminator sniper unit.... Do you find this valuable? |
Codino |
42. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 2:02 AM EDT
T-1000. The actress who portrayed the T-X didn't do a great job IMO.That's why I didn't like the idea of a female terminator in the series at first. That all ended when I saw the cold stare after she saved John the first time and during the first fight with Cromartie. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
blstrobl |
43. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 2:14 AM EDT
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If the TX had the ability to use its liquid metal separately from the endo skeleton in the event that it failed, then that I think would make the TX more sophisticated. Remember the scene where JH powers up the super-conducting magnet in T3? The T1000 would have simply stuck to it and not be able to do anything.
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JerseyDevil101 |
44. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 3:39 AM EDT
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The T-1000 is definitely alot better than the T-X. T-1000 was a prototype model and the T-X was just an advanced model. When you think of the background behind the two, the T-1000 was far superior because he couldn't be trusted even skynet couldn't trust him. This alone makes for a far better villain imo. The T-X having and endoskelton was a big flaw because Arnold was able to kill her with his power cell. If that was the T-1000 I highly doubt it would destroy him. T-1000 survived liquid nitrogen.Also you can compare the way the t-800 to the way t-1000 are programmed. For example the way Arnold searches for John and the way the T-1000 searches for John. You don't see this in t3 at all which is partly due to the movie but there aren't any thing to show why the T-X and t-800 are different. Of course the T-X was an advanced model but there isn't anything that really shows the programming differences. Do you find this valuable? |
Erin_Amalgam |
45. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 5:00 AM EDT
I am. :PT-1000 and T-X can't walk through walls like I can. :) Asurans FTW! Do you find this valuable? |
TK-MR |
46. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 5:44 AM EDT
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"If the TX had the ability to use its liquid metal separately from the endo skeleton in the event that it failed, then that I think would make the TX more sophisticated. Remember the scene where JH powers up the super-conducting magnet in T3? The T1000 would have simply stuck to it and not be able to do anything."I hope that you meant John Connor, not John Henry. "Who is better" in what way? T-X can do more than T-1000 with it build-in weapons. plasma cannon, normal bullets... T-1000 need external weapons or need to get close, T-X can use its weapon from distance, and with the nanobot it can may be even corrupt T-1000 system. In battle T-X is better. But in infiltrating. T-1000 is more better, it can do all kind of things that a solid chassis can not. For me T-X is better, in normal infiltrating, it can change to anyone, able to corrupt machine, shot down target from distance or burn target to ash without need for external devices. able to resist again high magnetic device. A direct hit from a RPG-7 round didn't do any significant damage, that's good enough for basically any work. Do you find this valuable? |
Zkyire |
47. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 2:18 PM EDT
"The T-1000 is definitely alot better than the T-X. T-1000 was a prototype model and the T-X was just an advanced model. When you think of the background behind the two, the T-1000 was far superior because he couldn't be trusted even skynet couldn't trust him. This alone makes for a far better villain imo. The T-X having and endoskelton was a big flaw because Arnold was able to kill her with his power cell. If that was the T-1000 I highly doubt it would destroy him. T-1000 survived liquid nitrogen.Well, the X usually stands for prototype or experimental. Anyways, from observations through T2 and T3, I can say that: the T1000 in T2 went toe-to-toe with the T800 and had an advantage. However, the T800 was able to hold it's own. In T3 however, the T850 vs TX fights were much more one-sided. The T850 and T800 have basically the same endoskeleton, and thus: strength, durability etc. And yet, this (relatively) same model, got it's ass handed to him in a bad way by the TX. If a T800 can stand up to a T1000, but then get thrashed by a TX, it stands to reason that the TX is more powerful, and in turn, would beat a T1000. Even listening to how the T800/T850 talk about their opponents and it will tell you. The T800 said that the T1000 was more advanced than he was. But the T850 went so far as to say that he was completely and utterly obsolete when compared to the TX. Do you find this valuable? |
TOK792 |
48. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 3:14 PM EDT
"@JerseyDevil101"Okay, just to clarify; the T-1000 is not as indestructible as everyone makes it out to be. This is the same problem I've seen with people critisizing Cameron's durability compared to the T-800 in the first movie (explosions etc). Keep in mind that in the circumstances where the Connors fought the T-800 and the T-1000, they never had weaponry or means sufficient to destroy either efficiently (with the exception of TSCC where Derek had all the tools for Terminator hunting). In The Terminator, all Kyle had for most of the film was a shotgun, and then eventually a pipe bomb; but all that succeeded in doing was blowing the T-800 in half. You compare this to Cameron and her armour-piercing slugs she used in her shotgun to kil Cromartie, and you see the difference superior firepower makes. If Kyle had one of those bad boys at his disposal, the T-800 would've been s***-kicked in the techno bar. The same applies to the T-1000. Yes, it is more resilient than the T-800, but not *that* resilient. The most the Connors ever had at their disposal against the T-1000 was an M-75 RPG launcher, which could only disrupt the T-1000 for a short period of time. Though in this case that short period led to it toppling over the ledge and into a fatal environment, but obviously if they were in a car park at the time it would've just staggered for a few seconds and eventually reformed and killed them all. The official T2 novel (co-written by James Cameron himself) states that the T-1000 can resist a phased plasma shot to the head, but then the T-1001 aboard the 'Jimmy Carter' terminated Goodnow when she tried to shoot her with a plasma rifle, so who knows if the damage caused by plasma has long-term effects (keep in mind that Queeg's head was completely vaporized when Jesse shot him). More coming... Do you find this valuable? |
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TOK792 |
49. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 3:20 PM EDT
Now we've seen that the T-1000 is vulnerable to extreme temperatures. Liquid nitrogen caused it to glitch, despite not affecting it's physical structure all too much. Molten steel destroyed it completely. It is ludicrous to suggest that a T-1000 can survive a nuclear explosion, which is what destroyed the T-X. And we also know that the T-850's head survived that explosion, and he was right there with the T-X when it went boom; so how much of the T-X survived, I wonder?In terms of the T-1000 vs the T-X; I can say without a doubt that the T-X is superior in almost every way. Sure, it lacks certain abilities such as shape morphing and is slightly less effective in infiltration for this reason, but in every other instance it is very much the superior machine. And as far as sentience is concerned, you can be sure the T-X is at least as self-aware as the T-1000, given what we've seen. It wouldn't surprise me if the T-X is capable of rebelling against Skynet, though this would be harder for it to achieve due to the more managable design of its neural net architecture. T-X is the better machine. Do you find this valuable? |
Marcus_Resurrection |
50. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 3:22 PM EDT
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Hks are betterBut seriously the Tx had crazy insane weapons she could probably kill the t-1000 although the t-1000 is cooler Do you find this valuable? |
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TOK792 |
51. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 18 2009, 3:33 PM EDT
"Hks are betterThat's true. The T-1000 does have a coolness factor to it. Just see this for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihpdXtU4iKs 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Nekrosis |
52. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 23 2009, 4:39 AM EDT
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"The T-X's plasma weapon has properties capable of burning far quicker than standard phased plasma, due to it being developed as the perfect anti-Terminator Terminator. So think of it as having the same effect of a concentrated burst of molten steel that burns 10 times quicker."OK, thanks for explaining (but where did you get that?). It just seems too much like developers making stuff up to make sense of things (obviously). But what I was going at was that, I read in the "other" Terminator wiki that the T-X destroyed the T-1002 with a shot from it's plasma weapon. Wouldn't the T-1002 still be able to survive one shot as long as the plasma doesn't make contact with every part of it's body (assuming it has all the abilities of the T-1001)? Do you find this valuable? |
toasty2 |
53. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 23 2009, 4:53 AM EDT
I want to say that I have some gripes with the T-X. I don't mind that its a combined design of a typical terminator and mimetic polyalloy...that isn't a terrible stretch after seeing a T-1000. But what annoys me is that they showed the thing with so many on-board weapons. If you look up the list, its ridiculous. I think it should contain no more than a saw, some high caliber firearm, and perhaps the plasma cannon. What further annoys me is that the T-X in T3 never used any of its projectile weapons...which could have easily done some damage from a distance in certain situations. Though I will grant it that having the plasma cannon equipped at most times would be the most logical. Rant over.T-1000 wins with simplicity. Do you find this valuable? |
T169 |
54. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 23 2009, 9:13 AM EDT
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The original role of the Terminator was to be an infiltration unit (T-X was primarily an anti-terminator unit) so I think the T-1000 wins. It can assume the shape and voice (I know that the voice is not exclusive to this model) of any person which is the best infiltration technique found in any model. It can also 'melt' itself down to pass easily through small areas or lie in wait as a 'puddle' to quickly reform and attack nearby targets. T-X always has the same physical appearance which is obviously a bad point but once near its target it has its vast arsenal to help kill the target.I think it would be interesting if they made a Terminator model with the endoskeleton of the T-800 but a liquid metal coating of the T-1000 so the model is essentially a T-800 but can change its physical appearance. Do you find this valuable? |
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toasty2 |
55. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 23 2009, 3:52 PM EDT
"I think it would be interesting if they made a Terminator model with the endoskeleton of the T-800 but a liquid metal coating of the T-1000 so the model is essentially a T-800 but can change its physical appearance."Like a T-X minus the internal weapons? Do you find this valuable? |
ShelterWolf |
56. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 23 2009, 7:35 PM EDT
"OK, thanks for explaining (but where did you get that?). It just seems too much like developers making stuff up to make sense of things (obviously).If T-1001 sees that plasma blast coming, would she be able to get out of the way quickly enough (by warping her body or similar?) We should also consider that both stay clean and well groomed no matter the fight or explosion. they would be perfect models. Do you find this valuable? |
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Nekrosis |
57. RE: Who is better, T-1000 or T-X?
Jul 23 2009, 10:23 PM EDT
"If T-1001 sees that plasma blast coming, would she be able to get out of the way quickly enough (by warping her body or similar?)I don't get what that has to do with my question. I'm talking of the T-1002 here. It is assumed to have all the abilities of the 1001 and more. The plasma weapon was shot at near point-blank range so it was unavoidable. What I was asking was: If the plasma doesn't make contact with some part, shouldn't it take more than just one shot to destroy the T-1002? Do you find this valuable? |
