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Neilis
60. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 3:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 3:13 PM EST
"so my point is, why that far into the war was a rubber-skinned early model doing Skynet's bidding, when by this time, they obviously had the T-X, and now as we learn, the T-888? It can't be Skynet's gig, but I guess we will find out soon enough - this is probably seeding a later-to-be-revealed plot-thickener. "
I think it's pretty simple: while a T-600 has it's problems, it's certainly not useless. It's already been built - their alloy is obviously NOT recyclable for other endoskeletan chassis. Why not put it to work doing something constructive? My guess is that virtually every unit that Skynet makes stays active until it's destroyed in combat. It's just the newly created stuff that's updated.

It's kind of like how the US had fighter jets and such but still continued to use old propeller driven fighters in limited attack roles in the Vietnam War. They weren't top of the line, but were still useful.
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Neilis
61. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 3:18 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 3:18 PM EST
"I think a lot of you are forgetting something about the movies. In T3, the "good" terminator stated that if he doesn't keep john and his wife alive, he could not exist. Maybe Cameron is keeping the chip and metal to allow her a chance to live, even if Skynet is destroyed."
Cameron's mission isn't to keep Skynet from being created though: it's to protect John. The only thing that would give her a reason to exist is to keep John alive.
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Mach1Cane
62. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 3:19 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 3:19 PM EST
"Cameron's mission isn't to keep Skynet from being created though: it's to protect John. The only thing that would give her a reason to exist is to keep John alive. "
None of us are 100% sure on what her complete mission is.
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jasonosborne79
jasonosborne79
63. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 3:59 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 3:59 PM EST
"I think a lot of you are forgetting something about the movies. In T3, the "good" terminator stated that if he doesn't keep john and his wife alive, he could not exist. Maybe Cameron is keeping the chip and metal to allow her a chance to live, even if Skynet is destroyed."
Except, she won't cease to exist if Skynet is never created.
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Docjam
Docjam
64. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 4:06 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 4:06 PM EST
It was also a T600 with its disguise ruined in several places, battle damage perhaps.

Either Skynet relegated this obsolete model that was salvaged after being damaged in combat to a menial task of lugging around prisoners, or it was a Resistance captured T600 (since it'd be obvious to detect)
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jasonosborne79
jasonosborne79
65. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 4:08 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 4:08 PM EST
Maybe there's a second resistance in play, hiding in plain sight? 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Docjam
Docjam
66. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 4:09 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 4:09 PM EST
not only was it a T600, obsolete model, but it was a DAMAGED T600 probably from combat (could see damage in the disguise skin).

You may be on to something, either Skynet religated this damaged obsolete model to lugging around prisoners as a menial task, or it's a resistance captured T600
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Docjam
Docjam
67. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 4:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 4:13 PM EST
T3 is an alternate timeline,

However he basically said he'd have no REASON to exist if they weren't alive.
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Docjam
Docjam
68. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 4:16 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 4:16 PM EST
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NightBirdFlying
NightBirdFlying
69. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 4:19 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 4:19 PM EST
If Cameron is self aware the she will have no doubt questions her 'mortality' and would want to carry on living, her mission maybe to protect john but we have already seen her 'decide' that the best way to protect john is to take action against skynet i mean they jumped through time, she assumes john is safe (she even says this, prompting both john and sarah to say noone is ever save), so maybe stopping skynet is a secondary objective. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
jasonosborne79
jasonosborne79
70. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 4:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 4:22 PM EST
"If Cameron is self aware the she will have no doubt questions her 'mortality' and would want to carry on living, her mission maybe to protect john but we have already seen her 'decide' that the best way to protect john is to take action against skynet i mean they jumped through time, she assumes john is safe (she even says this, prompting both john and sarah to say noone is ever save), so maybe stopping skynet is a secondary objective."
Assuming that they're in a new time line, and things can be changed, they can stop Skynet, prevent Judgement Day, and Cameron and any other assets sent back will continue to exist.

If that happens, Cameron is going to have to find a new job.
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bull0001
71. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 5:10 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 5:10 PM EST
"Assuming that they're in a new time line, and things can be changed, they can stop Skynet, prevent Judgement Day, and Cameron and any other assets sent back will continue to exist.

If that happens, Cameron is going to have to find a new job."
Have to say the thought had occurred to me that if SCC ended, for whatever reason, this could make a great spin-off. Cameron no longer needs to protect the Connors and goes off on her own, trying to learn how to be a human being. Can't see that actually happening, but it could be great fun...
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Kevirwin
Kevirwin
72. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theories?
Feb 20 2008, 6:00 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 6:00 PM EST
programmed by "future John" to do more than she's letting on. "good" or "bad" are subjective.

Guessing Cameron is many people's favorite character...

Prospects of her "humanizing" herself, bit by bit, has to be very tempting to the show's writers. (oh yea, and to me too).

Don't waste this character....

K e v
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T187
73. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theories?
Feb 20 2008, 6:09 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 6:09 PM EST
She's a chick! What chick don't act werid??? maybe it's PMS 1  out of 13 found this valuable. Do you?    

namttep
74. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theories?
Feb 20 2008, 7:12 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 7:12 PM EST
"She's a chick! What chick don't act werid??? maybe it's PMS"
lol, a Terminator with PMS, that IS A VERY SCARY THOUGHT!!
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bodus11
75. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 7:21 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 7:21 PM EST
I agree with the fact that Derek might have been programmed because when they had to take his blood in the last episode they couldnt get any for at least 30 seconds. 1  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    

namttep
76. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 9:52 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 9:52 PM EST
"I agree with the fact that Derek might have been programmed because when they had to take his blood in the last episode they couldnt get any for at least 30 seconds."
whats the fact that they couldn't get blood for a while have to do with anything?, when I lived in England, I used to donate blood, and even some of the nurses that take blood day in and day out didn't hit a vein first time every time, I had the bruises to back this up!
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Eraserlips
Eraserlips
77. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 20 2008, 10:03 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 20 2008, 10:03 PM EST
Maybe Skynet is liberal and chooses to redefine the word. Not that the machines are going to get much protest. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
t5000
t5000
78. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 2:35 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 21 2008, 2:35 AM EST
"Cameron is undoubtedly "good" in that she is pursuing an agenda designed to ultimately benefit all. The only problem is that her agenda is inconsistent with that of Sarah and past-John.

So far, Sarah's plan has been to destroy all possible Skynet tech, dissuade or kill all potential Skynet developers, and burn the last Terminator that helped her do it. Sarah plays a zero-sum game against the Terminators. Cameron (and probably future John) is likely exploring the possibility of co-existence between machines and humans. Her agenda is designed not only to protect the Connors, but to ingratiate herself to them so that she may hopefully save herself as well. I do not believe we will see Cameron handing a hydraulic lift control to John and asking him to melt her down along with the remains of all other Skynet technology. Up until this series, it has always been machines or humans. Cameron's looking for a third way out, and do not be surprised if she makes some morally ambiguous decisions along the way to accomplish such goal."
I just had a thought......
What if skynet downloaded itself into its newest terminator.....Cameron??
It could be up to anything , mainly making sure it/she survives!
It wouldnt have to eliminate the connors now ,just survive in a world that isnt blown up , and also with a body now, and a far supeior intellect than anyone on earth.
Its goal is to survive, and it may have a new plan over the simplistic kill john connor one.
so far cameron is unlike any other terminator, and I like her more than anyone else in the show, so I hope she doenst go bad in a ordinary way.
also we dont have any real confirmation that john sent "this cameron" back in time, thats just what she told them.
she is/was a ballerina in real life before acting so next week she should be good at it.
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mitx
mitx
79. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 4:05 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 21 2008, 4:05 AM EST
"I just had a thought......
What if skynet downloaded itself into its newest terminator.....Cameron??
It could be up to anything , mainly making sure it/she survives!
It wouldnt have to eliminate the connors now ,just survive in a world that isnt blown up , and also with a body now, and a far supeior intellect than anyone on earth.
Its goal is to survive, and it may have a new plan over the simplistic kill john connor one.
so far cameron is unlike any other terminator, and I like her more than anyone else in the show, so I hope she doenst go bad in a ordinary way.
also we dont have any real confirmation that john sent "this cameron" back in time, thats just what she told them.
she is/was a ballerina in real life before acting so next week she should be good at it."
Skynet downloading itself into cameron would be equal to John being cloned. It would be a clone of skynet. And skynet would die. So it goes against the idea of what you said. Because it wont survive that way. It also kills the whole idea of terminator. John connor defeats skynet and leads humanity to victory. You cant have skynet becoming his girlfriend man.
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