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80. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 5:39 AM EST
this is off topic, but if you like camern/summer glau, you should check out the dvd set of firefly where she played a similar character. also the movie serenity which was a sequel to the series.Ironically the series firefly was also on fox and ran 10 shows and then was canceled, then later they ran the last 2 shows which was originally the 2 hour pilot, so isnt that crazy, they ran the pilot after they decided to cancel it. then somehow a movie got made which gave the show a ending and it was pretty good. now back on topic is she good or bad , well maybe neither ....she is just different! I think she is stealing the show from lena heady/s.connor. I like this show, but I do think the name is stupid and way too long of a name for a tv show. It should have just been "Terminator" 4 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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81. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 6:45 AM EST
"this is off topic, but if you like camern/summer glau, you should check out the dvd set of firefly where she played a similar character. also the movie serenity which was a sequel to the series.Firefly is awesome, i didnt enjoy serenity as much, summer is ace in the series in fact the whole cast is awesome. I think the reason firefly got a movie came down to 2 things, 1, Joss wasnt ready to let go(and still isnt, yay!), 2, the fans went hardcore to get the film made. I say if SCC is terminated (my bad, couldnt resist a pun), we go hardcore and bring it back, im not losing another bad arse tv show to fox and their over eager axe person.! 6 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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82. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 9:23 AM EST
I think people have already clarified the first part isn't true. However, I do appreciate people pointing out mistakes I make, so any contrary information, please say it. All of Cameron's "notes" are just letters. John Connor told her that humans write notes to people when they're sad. She then preceded to read all of them, and learn what humans wrote in them. As for stashing a bar of Coltran, I thought that she was merely using the bar to hold down the gas pedal as she launched the delivery truck down the cliff. The CPU unit from the T-888 was merely part of JC's mission from the future. I know others have hypothesized that he needs it to reprogram the other terminators more effectively. As for how the Terminators "sometimes go bad," JC wouldn't have trusted her to the bank vault time machine if she wasn't a faithful machine.The flesh in the plastic bags is just as namttep said. It makes a horrible stench to burn skin, and she didn't want to attract other people's notice. I don't think Cameron is going to the "bad side" anytime soon. I do, however, believe that Derek, now that he knows his brother is dead, might be more likely to disobey orders from the not-so-future John Connor. But, we aren't discussing Derek in this thread, only Cameron. Needless to say, I think Cameron is merely being set up as a bad character to attract viewer attention. It's a classic Hollywood stunt to make people's favorite character seem corrupted. 9 out of 9 found this valuable. Do you? |
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83. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 2:06 PM EST
And, to add to your point, what about the death of the 3 other resistance fighters? (If I remember correctly) we come in on the resistance fighters already dead. We assumed that they were killed by a terminator; however, we don't know that for sure. What if Derek killed them? Why would a terminator return to the site after killing the first three? He would have killed them, broke into the safe (if he could), and continued his hunt for Derek. To me, it seems unlikely that a terminator would return to a scene of a crime because he forgot something. Sorry, got side-tracked. We don't know if Derek was responsible or not for the deaths of his comrades. I don't think we should rule out this possible behavior to back up his current "badness". Perhaps Derek was going "off-mission" and the others didn't want to disobey the future John, so he killed them. And, if he says that he didn't kill them, how could we trust that? He lied before (when killing Andy), why wouldn't he lie again?
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84. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 2:46 PM EST
could be but the terminator returned because there was one guy not dead. He was expecting the guy to come back. It's possible. I dont see him killing his team mates. They where all tracking andy. One of them would of killed him eventually. I dont get why he lied though.
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85. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 3:36 PM EST
"And, to add to your point, what about the death of the 3 other resistance fighters? (If I remember correctly) we come in on the resistance fighters already dead. We assumed that they were killed by a terminator; however, we don't know that for sure. What if Derek killed them? Why would a terminator return to the site after killing the first three? He would have killed them, broke into the safe (if he could), and continued his hunt for Derek. To me, it seems unlikely that a terminator would return to a scene of a crime because he forgot something. Sorry, got side-tracked. We don't know if Derek was responsible or not for the deaths of his comrades. I don't think we should rule out this possible behavior to back up his current "badness". Perhaps Derek was going "off-mission" and the others didn't want to disobey the future John, so he killed them. And, if he says that he didn't kill them, how could we trust that? He lied before (when killing Andy), why wouldn't he lie again?"I doubt the others knew what their true mission was. Only Derek went in to see John Connor, after which the brief conversation among the four before they jump suggests the other three believe they are going back to destroy Skynet. Cameron knows, however, which I think is why Derek is screaming that she's a liar while he's delirious. I don't think it entirely explains his hostility, but it's a factor. So, here's the next question - How did Skynet know to send back a terminator to hunt the cell? The 888 knew exactly when to go back to and who to look for. Possibly they're able to monitor time traffic, but that seems like a stretch, even in science fiction. Other oddities - the fact that only Derek is left alive from the cell, the fact that he almost seems puzzled as the 888 is drawing a bead on him in Episode 5. The 888 seemed pretty intent on killing him, but it was awfully slow to pull the trigger. Could it have been following to break him out instead? So many possibilities... 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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86. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 3:37 PM EST
There are some things we can only guess about. I don't think they're going to tell us what happened there unless Derek did end up killing them. But, if he did, it would make sense that he's going to become a nuisance in the future of the episodes. Personally, I can't wait until the 2 hour special to end the season. (March 3rd) I'm sure they're going to solve a lot of those mysteries, as well as create new ones for us to ponder for a while.
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87. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 21 2008, 4:13 PM EST
"I doubt the others knew what their true mission was. Only Derek went in to see John Connor, after which the brief conversation among the four before they jump suggests the other three believe they are going back to destroy Skynet. Cameron knows, however, which I think is why Derek is screaming that she's a liar while he's delirious. I don't think it entirely explains his hostility, but it's a factor.Yea I forgot he called her a liar. Good catch! 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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88. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 23 2008, 7:05 AM EST
It's hard to tell a robots true intentions. But the thing witht the chip in the last episode does seem odd. In my opinion it could be some sort of self preservation tactic.
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The_George |
89. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 23 2008, 12:27 PM EST
"I doubt the others knew what their true mission was. Only Derek went in to see John Connor, after which the brief conversation among the four before they jump suggests the other three believe they are going back to destroy Skynet. Cameron knows, however, which I think is why Derek is screaming that she's a liar while he's delirious. I don't think it entirely explains his hostility, but it's a factor.I think he hesitated because he heard Sarah say, "John, NO!" He was reevaluating the mission, because they have an overriding objective to kill John Connor. He might have been re-aiming at John instead. Notice how he hit Derek in the side (about level to where John dove). Either that, or it was a stupid mistake by the writers, because they were looking for a reason for Derek to survive. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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90. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 23 2008, 3:22 PM EST
Cameron hit the T-888 just as he was firing, so instead of a direct hit on Derek its aim was thrown off. I think if they do decide to have Cameron become a turn coat (or at least some ulterior motive that may compromise John and Sarah), they should do it later on (mid way through the series, perhaps), so that there is enough learned knowledge of being good and what it means to be good, caring, a friend, and a family member. That way John can turn her around again or she begins to question herself and decides to follow the better path in the end. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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91. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 23 2008, 3:41 PM EST
"Cameron hit the T-888 just as he was firing, so instead of a direct hit on Derek its aim was thrown off.Sounds plausible. The part in ep 6 with the pet going bad, could be an awakened mind escaping its restraints. Or simply something Skynet put in as has been suggested on this site. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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92. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 23 2008, 11:33 PM EST
i think she is good and will stay good.. maybe she will have those akward moments.. but in her character description on fox.. it says "... Relentless in her mission to protect John Connor, Cameron absolutely will not stop. Ever. " 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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93. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 24 2008, 12:13 AM EST
"I'm starting to believe that the goal of this show is the rise of self-awareness in Cameron. There are a lot of small hints, including her curiosity about human emotions. Comments like "I'm different" and "sometimes they go bad" indicate that she may view herself as sentient. This episode's revelation that she is willing to lie for her personal gain is huge.As far as "the goal of the show to be the rise of self awareness in Cameron" I am hoping to see some futher development in all the major characters. That would make a much more interesting story. They all have improtaint voices in the T story and we should hear from all of them. I think the next few episodes will be full of intresting development for the main line of the story. They have only just begun to tell the tale. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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94. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 26 2008, 6:00 PM EST
another theory of mine.. in the theme or beginning of the episode.. w.e you want to call it... sarah is saying how they sent one back to kill him and one to protect him.. camerons the one to protect him..im thinking she'll stay good and have her moments.
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95. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 26 2008, 6:49 PM EST
"I doubt the others knew what their true mission was. Only Derek went in to see John Connor, after which the brief conversation among the four before they jump suggests the other three believe they are going back to destroy Skynet. Cameron knows, however, which I think is why Derek is screaming that she's a liar while he's delirious. I don't think it entirely explains his hostility, but it's a factor.he looked at him and identified him. The it said terminate. He knew it was Derek Reese and was going to terminate him 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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96. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 26 2008, 7:10 PM EST
Kind of a crazy theory, but what if future John was critically wounded or even dead and Cameron has come back in time on her own and not on John's or anyone's orders. Maybe like Derek believes that he can fix the mistakes, she believes that she can change John's fate. Just a weird thought.
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97. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 26 2008, 7:10 PM EST
"i think she is good and will stay good.. maybe she will have those akward moments.. but in her character description on fox.. it saysI completely agree! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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98. What kind of Terminator is Cameron?
Feb 26 2008, 7:31 PM EST
In episode 7 they showed her Terminator vision. It was in color meaning that she is at least a T-900 model.
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99. RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theori
Feb 26 2008, 7:33 PM EST
"There's a lot of puzzling aspects about ep 6.Of course Derek ran for the hideout! Where else would he go, Wal-Mart? 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |