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Koudijs |
320. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Sep 4 2008, 11:08 AM EDT
that's a nice thought.... why keep it from created... but learn to play nice with skynet...and co-excist...
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norosoron |
321. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Oct 1 2008, 7:38 PM EDT
I think the female T1000 is actually Skynet's avatar. It makes sense because she seems a lot less ridged personality wise than the terminators. I think Skynet copied it's self into T1000 form and went into the past to insure its own survival. I would like to see another AI besides Skynet (maybe a sister program). After all the premise that there is only one AI created in the whole world seem a bit small minded. If the USA had created this AI as a Defense system it would stand to reason that the Allies (UK, Canada, ect...) would be developing similar systems. Also as advanced as the US is I think China, Japan, and S. Korea would developing similar programs as well.
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jer35mx |
322. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Oct 1 2008, 8:27 PM EDT
When the "native" market is down, well there are always ways to "get-foreign-interest" on the show. You know, for example the "National treasure" movie in England. Je, I keep wondering, how to make a cameo of Doctor Who in TSCC, just joking.
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323. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Oct 2 2008, 7:45 AM EDT
john connor aged 40 somtthing has to travel back in time to retrieve something he entrusted inside camerons chip, which he hid from skynet by sending cameron to the past, cameron acts all strange as old john dosent want young john to know about the information until the time is right. i guess a storie line could be built around that. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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324. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Oct 18 2008, 2:24 PM EDT
FOX ordered full season 2 now! I think Josh should script directed John/Cameron relations! ))
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NoelCT |
325. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Oct 29 2008, 1:11 AM EDT
(there's a space limit, so I've had to break it up)Part 1 I'm new here, so sorry if my predictions were already covered elsewhere. I think the death in November is going to be Cromartie. I know he's the closest thing we have to the original, single-minded stalker Terminator, but he's shown no interest in wavering from his mission and him luring the Connors into one trap after another is going to start feeling like the Coyote's frequently attempts to snare the Road Runner. So I think he'll go. But not alone. No, I think Charlie's story will come to a close as he sacrifices himself to bring this monster down with him. There. Now, about the rest of the season ... I think, through Jesse, we learn there's growing tension in the human resistance. Like Derek, others are angry that Connor is so willing to reprogram and work with machines instead of simply killing them. Especially since he's not just using them for labor or as cannon fodder. He starts asking for their advice or placing them in positions of authority. This is seen as dangerous and a figure who I'll call Mystery (since it's a new, as yet unrevealed character), who rose through the ranks with John, though always in his shadow, is the figurehead of this movement. They feel enough leaders and fighters will exist after D-Day that the loss of Robot-Lovin' John won't effect things negatively. In fact, their position might be stronger if they keep their ranks free of machines. So a team of agents, with Jesse, were sent back to take down John. At the moment, they are surveilling the target and trying to seduce info out of Derek. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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NoelCT |
326. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Oct 29 2008, 1:12 AM EDT
(there's a space limit, so I've had to break it up)Part 2 Derek, at some point, will discover this plot. He's torn. On one hand, he's watched friends and family fight and die for John, the son of his brother. On the other, he hates machines and looks in horror as John and Cameron start to warm to one another now that her chip is settled. On to that relationship. I don't think John and Cameron are going to hug and kiss and make lovey faces, but they will start to work things out. He will confront her on what she said while trapped between the cars, she will confront him on the potential suicide attempt, and they will reconcile in some way. This is also noticed by Sarah. She's torn. Cameron has proven herself again and again and has been showing more moments of surprising insight ... but she's still a Terminator. And then there's Riley. Even though things will start to stabilize between him and Cameron, I think he longs for Riley because she represents the normalcy he may never know. She becomes his anchor, keeps him grounded and sane in an insane situation. Which hurts him all the more when she dies. I think the human resistance faction will try to kill John and Riley, swept up in and overwhelmed by events, gets killed in a way that could have been prevented had John pushed her aside and taken her place. And he tries. He's willing to sacrifice himself and the future of humanity just to save this one life ... But Cameron stops him. She holds him back so all he can do is cry out as Riley takes the fatal blow. Thus, tension once again builds between them which can be explored in season 3. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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NoelCT |
327. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Oct 29 2008, 1:12 AM EDT
(there's a space limit, so I've had to break it up)Part 3 Now, what about Catherine Weaver, Ellison, and the Turk. Through her observations of Savannah and Dr. Sherman's work on the Turk, Weaver grows more and more hesitant to put all of her faith in a computer that's so emotionally unstable. To her, emotion is a weakness, nothing more than a way to manipulate humans. It comes to a head when she confronts the Turk, who screams and tries lashing out, but she's disconnected him from the network. She says that the future doesn't need Skynet. He was just a way for her to realize her true purpose. <i>She</i> will lead the mechanical revolution. Weaver rips out the Turk's central processor and crushes it. She goes back to her room where Savannah is drawing a picture. Weaver places her hands at either side of the girl's head about to squeeze. The girl holds up the picture for mommy to see. Weaver looks. And looks. And look. She smiles and says, "That's nice." She gently draws the girl's hair back in strands and starts to braid. I think Ellison is running two investigations. One will lead him to one or more Terminators that Weaver will either recruit or replace. The other is Cameron, which, he's already figured out from the photo in the bar, ties to Sarah Connor. I don't know if he'll discover he's working for a Terminator this season or next, but he will and, feeling he's "done the devil's work", sacrifices himself in a way that saves the lead family. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Tacrunner |
328. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Nov 3 2008, 1:04 PM EST
NoelCT, I love the work up you did. it has alot of great thoughts about what has already happened behind it. I really liked it and applaude your insight.After seeing the peek-a-boo trailers for toinghts epsiode I am left wondering if some of that will come true. 10hrs and waiting...... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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gammaworld |
329. Plot ideas
Apr 29 2009, 8:19 PM EDT
1. Don't travel back and forth in time. Now that it's done you don't need to do it again unless its to get Cameron and get back.2. Somehow work Sarah back in - it can't be the Sarah Connor chronicles without her (probably past that point) 3. Time theories on Kyle and Derek - since Kyle is there now it is obviously in the past before he is sent back (I choose to stick with the original timeline) so there is no harm in not mentioning John at this point. 4. Cameron is on the 'good' side and working to save humanity. She left (hopefully) because she learned something that is more important than saving John which is (hopefully) that Shirley Manson with take over her role in protecting him while she leaps to the future to share her knowledge (whatever that may be) with the future good side or the robots. 5. Good robots and bad robots. Evidentally there are more than humans vs robots, some side made NOT by human or at least eventually under their own control (T1000 - Shirley kills humans at the warehouse). They see value, in the present, in preserving humans as an ally if not in the future. They change their mind when the robots outnumber the humans ("the answer is no"). 6. Cameron and Chromarty. It is obvious that Chromarty has a body but no chip and Cameron and a chip but defective body. The only thing is Chromarty should still be in the 'present' in the mainframe while Cameron in the future. This can be for several reasons: A. Cameron was NOT sent by John Connor, leaving the "Good robots" - which makes the most sense. As for her instincts to kill him - well, she's a terminator. Good or bad robots simply makes her prime directive different (which we don't know). This works best because she keeps secrets. She goes back to report in or inform them that someone (Shirley) is working in the past (another plot hook) etc. Do you find this valuable? |
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gammaworld |
330. RE: Plot ideas
Apr 29 2009, 8:27 PM EDT
(continued)6.B Cameron was sent by John Connor but learns of Shirley Manson's intentions and that she intends to travel to the future (I cannot see another way around it) but once again, Chromarty has to stay in the present/past as that was her point in creating him. He was hacked by Skynet or some version of it because of the virus in T3 that was entirely software. Cameron travels to the future (the beginning of the war) because of changes to John in the present. She clears the way in the new body (it wouldn't go through) and John skips J-Day (he might have died). 6.C The bad robots sent Cameron which pisses everybody off and creates numerous plot holes. SNL does a skit with Fallon as Connor who gets really confused at this point and the end the series due to the upcoming movie. Do you find this valuable? |
TOK792 |
331. RE: Plot ideas
Apr 29 2009, 8:42 PM EDT
1. Yes.2. She'll be in it, but her story will be in the past until John returns. 3. Sure. 4. She jumped forward because she knew how important John Henry would be to the war effort and John's survival. 5. No, the events in the past happened BEFORE the events in the future (figure it out). 6. Cromartie was destroyed. His body is all that remains. 6A. I doubt Cameron is an errand girl. 6B. Again, Cromartie is dead. John Henry is the A.I. you're referring to. And no, he went with Cameron (on the same chip) to the future. 6C. Yep, pretty much. Do you find this valuable? |
