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Dracaspina
Dracaspina
40. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 23 2008, 9:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2008, 9:59 AM EDT
"Maybe it will start to create Human Terminators using liquid nano bots. Which may explain why Derek was yelling, "That's My Blood what are you doing to my Blood!" "
Derek was reffering to Kyle, the quote is "He's my blood!" He was screaming because he wanted to know what had happened to his brother.
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Dafixer
Dafixer
41. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 23 2008, 10:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 23 2008, 10:01 AM EDT
The time travel angle pretty much makes Terminator an open mythos. Because you have the time travel factor you can pretty much go nuts because every movie stands alone and is not ruined if you add tweaks. How I see it is this way:

Sending back John and Reese ensured the future remained the same. T2 altered teh future but did not change it. T3 altered the future again but did not change it. In other words Skynet is always born, it always causes nuclear war, it always takes over and human, lead by John Conner, always defeat it. Skynet is trying to change that while the ressistance is trying to make sure the time line doesn't change.

Thus the story possibilities are endless as long as the writers remember this is what makes the Terminator work. So they can send bad Cameron back or blow her up. And blowing her up give room to replace her if they need to.

My plot point is for Skynet to realize that the Connors have moved up in time and are in a better position to hinder it's plan. So it send back another super Terminator. It would seek out Cromartie and they could team up and go on a mission to reprogram the other Terminators to join the hunt for them. At the same time authorities find out the Conners are alive and well and still on the FBI most wanted list. Let's put the squeeze on our heroes and see if them get out of it.

Peace

Dafixer

(aka Umar)
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Frallon
42. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 24 2008, 4:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 24 2008, 4:02 PM EDT
Totally want them to save up money and bring back Evil Arnold with a T2 feel, but he's a gov. now and wouldnt do it, WHICH TOTALLY SUCKS!!!!!!! Nobodys a better T101 Than Arnold. 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

Finney23
43. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 25 2008, 5:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 5:12 PM EDT
Hi what a think my plots are for season 2 i think!!!

that Cameron will rebuild her self mainly a little bit of skin here are there and endo skeleton work that's my first thing that they will do before anything else in season 2.

Then after that they will go after the bloke with the Terek Sarah or & Cameron will kill him for it then it will go again and then they will have to look for it again while this is all happening Derek will look after John and have words with Chola and the bloke in the house. Ellison in the mean time is going after Sarah and Cameron but doesn't notice what he is getting him self in to with Cromartie close behind him dressing up as an FBI agent etc

And then a big fight happens with Cameron and Cromartie they will both get damaged.

And thats as far as my knowledge of season 2 will take me so we have to watch season 2 in the fall!!!!!
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CameronsWiffy
CameronsWiffy
44. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 25 2008, 9:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 9:49 PM EDT
"I think it would be awesome if Cameron sees someone kiss at prom. And she asks John why people kiss. And he says he "they just do." Then later she is outside with Morris and he tries to kiss her but she gets out of it without hurting him though. Just freaking him out. Then later at home John asks Cameron, "Why did you have to flip Morris out, you should have just kissed him like a regular person." And Cameron's reply is, 'It just didn't feel right." John replies, "What?" Cameron repeats her statement. John then asks, "How could you feel that?" Cameron replies, "I don't know. It just didn't feel right."

John comes further into Cameron's room. He says, "You can feel." Cameron says, "I'm starting to." Cameron says, "Aren't you supposed to dance at prom?" John says, "Yes." Cameron replies, "I didn't get to dance." John asks Cameron if she would like to dance. She says, "Yes." John turns on music (which just so happens to be slow). He takes her left hand and puts her right arm on on his shoulder and his arm around her waist. They dance for a little. John brings Cameron closer. They stare into each other's eyes. Cameron says, "This feels right." John leans in and kisses her.

Standing in the doorway is Derek. He stands there stunned. Cameron quickly notices Derek and slightly but quickly pushes John away. Derek says, "What the hell were you doing?" Cameron says, "It felt right." Cameron leaves her own room as Derek stands there amazed at John. Derek says, "She's a MACHINE." John says, "She's a LEARNING machine" Derek says, "She's tricking you. This is over, she's done." John says, "You listen to me. You will not touch her. And that's an order." Derek says, "You're crazy Connor. You have no idea...""
Weeks before John and Cameron go to prom he teaches her about music. He tells her, "When people sings, it's usually a sign of happiness." And he can explain how singing is sometimes uncontrolable.

Okay. So this scene could take place after the scene I wrote where John and Cameron kiss after dancing in her room. The next day Cameron is roaming around the house singing the song that played while her and John kisses. Sarah comes across and says, "What are you doing?" Cameron states, "Singing is the universal sign of happiness." And Sarah just looks at her confused, She says, "Happiness? But you don't feel happiness." Then Cameron snaps back and says, "Who are you to say what I can or can't do?"

John comes out of his room and says, "Did I hear singing?" Sarah says, "Your metal friend thinks she can feel happiness." John replies, "That's not all she can feel." Sarah questions him but he just plays it off like it's nothing. Derek comes in and says, "Our metal friend here is capable of a lot." John quickly glares at him. Sarah begins to make pancakes while everyone else sits at the table. John says to Derek, "I thought you said you'd keep your mouth shut." Derek says, "I am. I just think we should be aware of your metal friend's capable." Cameron says, "I'm capable of a lot of things." Derek looks at her and says (contradicting himself) "I don't even want to know."

John and Cameron head off to school. Cameron begins singing again. John asks what she is doing and she replies, "Singing is the universal sign of happiness." John replies, "And what are you happy about?" She says, "Our kiss."
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CameronsWiffy
CameronsWiffy
45. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 25 2008, 9:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 9:50 PM EDT
John says to Cameron, "Yeah, well you can't let my mom know about that..." Cameron replies, "I know. She will be deeply angered." John then asks Cameron, "Why did you kiss me? I didn't think terminators would supposed to do that?" She replies, "We're not. But it felt like the thing to do during that moment." He looks at her, a tad bit confused, but being the teenage boy he is, he asks, "Did you like it." Cameron smiles at John and they continue to walk towards school.

After a normal day at school John asks Cameron if he can take her somewhere. She agrees and they walk to a beautiful lake where the sun is setting. Cameron walks towards the lake and stares and says, "It's beautiful." John says, "I thought you'd like it." Cameron says, "It doesn't look like this in the future." John says, "You've been here before?" Cameron replies, "Yes, you brought me here in the future. Except you were upset. You told me you use to come here as a child with your mom and would go fishing all day until the sun set. You told me the sun was so beautiful and wished you could show me. I've always wanted to see this, thank you John." Cameron turns to John and says, "We must go. Your mother will freak if we're out much longer." John sighs and they begin to walk home.

They walk rather close on the way home. John asks Cameron, "So are we like best friends in the future?" Cameron says, "You could call it that." John replies, "You're kind of like my best friend now..." Cameron smiles and takes John by the hand. John ruins the moment by saying, "This is so weird." Cameron says, "Humans can not control their emotions." John replies, "But you're not a human." Cameron replies, "But I have emotions."
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CameronsWiffy
CameronsWiffy
46. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 25 2008, 9:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 9:50 PM EDT
John stares her amazed but confused. He says, "But you're a..." She replies, "I'm different." John replies, "You're telling me..." They end up on the porch of their house. The sun is still setting and the way is shines on Cameron's face enhances every beautiful feature she has. They stand on the porch a moment. John continues to look at Cameron as she gazes at the beautiful sun set. He says, "For my protector, you sure do drive me to do crazy things." She says, "Crazy things?" He replies, "Yes..." And comes closer to her and takes his hand and puts it on her face, caressing it ever so gently. He then leans in and kisses her softy. She kisses him back.

After a moment or two their beautiful love scene is ruined as Sarah walks up to the porch. She yells, "JOHN!" They stop. They are both startled to see her. Sarah says, "So these are your capabilities? Tricking my son into falling for you so he will get off track of his mission!" Cameron says, "No, that is not apart of my mission." Sarah says, "Then what is your mission." Cameron says, "To ensure the lives of John and Sarah Connor." Sarah replies, "Then why are you kissing my son?" John replies, "Because it felt right." John storms inside. Sarah tells Cameron, "Just because you don't have a heart doesn't mean John doesn't have one. I will not stand around and watch him ponder over some heartless machine." Cameron replies, "But I want one..." (referring to a heart).
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CameronsWiffy
CameronsWiffy
47. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 25 2008, 10:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 25 2008, 10:32 PM EDT
Cameron then continues her statement, "The tin man had a heart all along. He just didn't know it." Sarah looks angrily at Cameron and walks in the door.

Derek sees her and says, "So I guess you know about John and the tin man?"
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
48. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 12:56 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 12:56 AM EDT
"I would like to also see that Time Travel becomes a bigger plot factor next season! Maybe have Cameron Explain that John pre-programed her to be aware of things in the past to protect herself and John Connor. Along with the clues to destroy skynet. Because I think she keeps the chip and the bar of metal as a mission objective by John Connor to make sure she can acomplish her mission. Because Future John May know about this stuff and he may have programed Cameron to be aware of the object will be needed in the future. Kindof like that movie Paycheck. Yet Cameron is the tool not the twenty-one items!

More flash backs with Derek and maybe even Cameron? Yes Cameron. I would like to see wheather she Daydreams about what she has done in the past too. We may learn that her terminator is created by Skynet. But, Cameron was stolen and reverse engineered by John Connor to be a new bread of robot. A compassionate terminator as it were. This may help her character to be understood as more human. I would also like to see if they will show flash backs for Sarah Connor maybe even show Arnold from the neck down since Arnold can't exactly be in the show! Or have nightmares of a T-1000 killing her and John. Because I thought the nightmares were cool last season. "
With regard to Derek has anybody thought that maybe Sarkisian didn't plant the bomb and maybe he was just there watching Sarah, John, Cameron and Derek?

Because since I posed that question. I just thinking mind you guys. That maybe Derek set the C4 that Sarah Connor has on the Jeep. Derek does hate her a lot and he totally doesn't trust her. Especially more so that Cameron has a name he was really mad about that. So maybe he planted the C4 on the truck knowing that she was going to use it. And maybe Sarkisian saw what Derek did and is trying to get out of there for fear of being suspected of being responsible.

Just sharing a speculation me and a friend of mine thought of. Just wondering what people thing about it with this regard.

Because I have suggested that Derek his a chip possibly inplanted in him by Cameron (before she was reprogramed for good) in the basement. You know the basement with all the music playing. Maybe Derek is starting to turn on them. Threw fear of the Terminators. The chip maybe making him try to destroy Cameron so that they will be vulnerble to other bad terminators. And the chip is using Derek's fear of Machines to its benifit. So thus he puts a bomb in the Jeep to try a sorry attemp to destroy Cameron (which we all know will do very little damage).

Just sharing a thought.
What do you guys think?
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jsisson
jsisson
49. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 1:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 1:03 AM EDT
What I think we'll see is that cameron will be pulled from the wreckage and I also think that she will use that skin she bagged from the t-888 to regenerate herself. But maybe something will be wrong with her, possible damage to her cpu? Now that we saw basically that the machines have taken controll of the future what will john do now?? Do you find this valuable?    
Dracaspina
Dracaspina
50. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 1:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 1:21 AM EDT
"Because I have suggested that Derek his a chip possibly inplanted in him by Cameron (before she was reprogramed for good) in the basement. You know the basement with all the music playing. Maybe Derek is starting to turn on them. Threw fear of the Terminators. The chip maybe making him try to destroy Cameron so that they will be vulnerble to other bad terminators. And the chip is using Derek's fear of Machines to its benifit. So thus he puts a bomb in the Jeep to try a sorry attemp to destroy Cameron (which we all know will do very little damage)."
Rule #1 that every interregator knows, anyone can be broken. Mental torture, chemicals. You don't need computer chips to be programmed.

I was listening to the commentaries on the first movie, and James Cameron had a specific point on Kyle Reese. The Resistance has been fighting machines for so long that the soldiers have become machine-like themselves. So, Derek has got a "by any means nessessary" outlook. I've met enough veterans to know that regular war messes with your head, not to mention having P.O.W. status piled on top of it.
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
51. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 1:26 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 1:26 AM EDT
"Rule #1 that every interregator knows, anyone can be broken. Mental torture, chemicals. You don't need computer chips to be programmed.

I was listening to the commentaries on the first movie, and James Cameron had a specific point on Kyle Reese. The Resistance has been fighting machines for so long that the soldiers have become machine-like themselves. So, Derek has got a "by any means nessessary" outlook. I've met enough veterans to know that regular war messes with your head, not to mention having P.O.W. status piled on top of it."
O.k. Maybe Cameron tortured him to death to do what Skynet wants! I'm just saying what if Derek planted the C4 on the truck knowing that she was going to use it. And maybe Sarkisian saw what Derek did and is trying to get out of there for fear of being suspected of being responsible.

Thus putting John and Sarah at risk from Cromartie (no protection now!).
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
52. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 1:28 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 1:28 AM EDT
"O.k. Maybe Cameron tortured him to death to do what Skynet wants! I'm just saying what if Derek planted the C4 on the truck knowing that she was going to use it. And maybe Sarkisian saw what Derek did and is trying to get out of there for fear of being suspected of being responsible.

Thus putting John and Sarah at risk from Cromartie (no protection now!)."
But we all know that Cameron wasn't destroyed. I'm not saying that maybe damaged a little. If anything more skin damage than anything. Kind of like when Cromartie got blown-up by the car explosion. His face got messed-up really good. And that wasn't a really big explosion either.
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RayLiX
RayLiX
53. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 4:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 4:10 AM EDT
Episode:1 Season:2 Always just a game
(While viewer sees nothing but open road, the view shifts from side to side of the long dessert road)
Sarah Narrates- In the beginning they were created to do what we could not or would not. Machines without a conscience or soul like ‘The Turk’. Machines that were built to think for us.
(The view comes back to Sarah’s tired face driving what looks to be a swat car. John is in the background placing chunks of symmetrically cut flesh from a satchel and gently placing them over damage areas of Cameron’s endoskeleton. As he pulls back the scorched shirt from her stomach, she reboots and grabs his hand. But its to late, he has already seen what makes her different.)
Sarah Narrates- In the beginning, it only knew games. Derek said to me once that for the machines it is ‘Always just a game’. Now, as judgement day draws close, the threat to my son, John, seems anything but a game.
(Cut to Derrick aiming a gun at Cameron’s exposed CPU. Cameron stands down. She realises John and sits up. Derrick and John take a step back. The flesh on Cameron’s leg begins to heal rapidly as John and Derrick look on in amazement. With little time to waist she is fully healed as Sarah throws the van into a full 360)
Sarah yells “Hang on, it’s found us”
(The Cromartie stand perfectly still as the van turn away, almost rolling to one side, and only begins pursuit as it begins to pull away)
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randomicity912
randomicity912
54. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 6:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 6:09 AM EDT
I seriously can't see Cameron being badly damaged by that exploson. Whilst Derek is certainly parnaoid enough to do something like that, I don't think he would leave Sarah and John open to attack from other Terminator's like that unless of course he's really lost it or has had his mind messed with. My take of Season 2 Episode 1: - *ahem*

Okay, so it opens to show where Episode 9 from Season 1 left off. Cameron turns the key and then the jeep explodes. John rushes out the house with Sarah following, Derek follows grudgingly. John is partially distraught at losing Cameron but then she bursts out the smouldering wreakage. Sarkissian has dissappeard by now. As this happens Charlie turns up with Agent Ellison. Agent Ellison is amazed/shocked to see Cameron (who has parts of her bio-disguise damaged). Sarah shouts "You bought the feds?!". Charlie tries to explain as Cameron gives Ellison one of those Terminator analysing looks. Ellison backs off slightly protesting "Look I'm here to help you! Not arrest you!". "How do we know there aren't any more Feds on there way?!" Sarah demands. "Becuase one of those bastards killed all my men!" Ellison exclaims pointing to Cameron. "What?" Sarah asks in disbelief. "There was this guy we were following who was a suspect in 5 different murders, the only thing linking them was this strange blood." "Strange blood?!" Derek demands. "Yeah, it was exactly like human blood only it had no red blood cells in it," Cameron adds "Terminator blood" Ellison continues. "He altered his appearance to look like some local actor and then impersonated an FBI agent, calling himself 'Kester',"
"Sounds like Cromartie," Cameron adds. "Who's Cromartie?" Charlie asks. "Terminator," Cameron adds. "I was beginning to put 2 and 2 together, but I just wasn't sure enough."
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randomicity912
randomicity912
55. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 6:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 6:25 AM EDT
"And now a fellow FBI agent and a whole SWAT team are dead," Ellison finishes.
"So I guess you believe us about the whole Tin Man thing then?" John adds.
"Well, 'Tin Miss' over here is a bit of a giveaway even if it wasn't for that," Ellison replies.
"Yeah, we better get you inside," Sarah tells her.
"But Sarkissian was here," Cameron adds
Sarah begins to look worried. "What?"
"I saw him. Walking away before the car bomb detonated,"
Derek begins to look uneasy.
"I saw him walking in that direction. I could catch him," Cameron adds
"No! Your, 'insides' are showing," Sarah replies
Cameron looks down to see parts of the "skin" missing and her endo-skeleton shwoing in places.
"Oh," Cameron responds. "I didn't realise,"
Charlie, Ellison share a look of disbelief
"Let's get you inside before somebody sees you," Sarah finishes.

They get inside, John helps to repair Cameron's bio-disguise with pieces of skin from the T-888. Sarah questions Ellison. They form some sort of plan. Due to the explosion, obviously the cops etc have been called. Cromartie, who has obtained a police radio, hears reports of a car bomb. Then suddenly the police operator relays the fact that eye-witness' saw a girl walk un-injured from the wreckage. As Cromartie hears this he stops and then heads to where the explosion occured. By the time Cromartie arrives, they have long gone, in search of Sarkissian. Cromartie finds some of the skin of the T-888 and uses it to repair his bio-disguise. He is interrupted by police demanding why he is there and then he uses his whole "I'm Agent Kester of the FBI thang".
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galantracer87
56. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 6:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 6:14 PM EDT
I would like to see an episode where john takes out the chip in cameron and flips the switch to make her act more human and learn more just like in terminator 2. Maybe she might get a crush on john. Theres no reason why john shouldnt be attracted to cameron. That would make an awsome episode. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Dracaspina
Dracaspina
57. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 7:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 7:17 PM EDT
"I would like to see an episode where john takes out the chip in cameron and flips the switch to make her act more human and learn more just like in terminator 2. Maybe she might get a crush on john. Theres no reason why john shouldnt be attracted to cameron. That would make an awsome episode."
What's wrong with John's affection for Cameron being purely brotherly? Honestly, I find it creepy how many fans want to see the two of them get romanticly involved.
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
58. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 26 2008, 7:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 7:40 PM EDT
"What's wrong with John's affection for Cameron being purely brotherly? Honestly, I find it creepy how many fans want to see the two of them get romanticly involved."
I agree.

And that is all I'm going to say.
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Grrrumpy
Grrrumpy
59. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 26 2008, 9:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2008, 9:33 PM EDT
"I think it would be awesome if Cameron sees someone kiss at prom. And she asks John why people kiss. And he says he "they just do." Then later she is outside with Morris and he tries to kiss her but she gets out of it without hurting him though. Just freaking him out. Then later at home John asks Cameron, "Why did you have to flip Morris out, you should have just kissed him like a regular person." And Cameron's reply is, 'It just didn't feel right." John replies, "What?" Cameron repeats her statement. John then asks, "How could you feel that?" Cameron replies, "I don't know. It just didn't feel right."

John comes further into Cameron's room. He says, "You can feel." Cameron says, "I'm starting to." Cameron says, "Aren't you supposed to dance at prom?" John says, "Yes." Cameron replies, "I didn't get to dance." John asks Cameron if she would like to dance. She says, "Yes." John turns on music (which just so happens to be slow). He takes her left hand and puts her right arm on on his shoulder and his arm around her waist. They dance for a little. John brings Cameron closer. They stare into each other's eyes. Cameron says, "This feels right." John leans in and kisses her.

Standing in the doorway is Derek. He stands there stunned. Cameron quickly notices Derek and slightly but quickly pushes John away. Derek says, "What the hell were you doing?" Cameron says, "It felt right." Cameron leaves her own room as Derek stands there amazed at John. Derek says, "She's a MACHINE." John says, "She's a LEARNING machine" Derek says, "She's tricking you. This is over, she's done." John says, "You listen to me. You will not touch her. And that's an order." Derek says, "You're crazy Connor. You have no idea...""
CameronsWiffy, You and I think alike, read my earlier post. I very much like the seen you scripted out in your post. You got me chompin' at the bit for season 2. I certainly hope what you and I have envisioned for Cameron and John is actually in the cards somewhere in the future of the series!
Grrrumpy
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