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CameronsWiffy	60. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie Mar 26 2008, 10:54 PM EDT " Grrrumpy RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theory Today, 8:28 PM EDT Is She Good or Bad?................ Actually, She's working that out as we speak! She is for the time being, following her programing and protecting John Connor. The big secret with Cameron is not weather or not She's Good or Evil- It's that She is a Sentient being capable of determining for herself her own goodness or evil inclinations. Like most of us she'll probably turn out to be a little of both. If you will recall she has said she was "Different", "A New design", "Perfect in every way!". To be even more clear, She is in the process of exceeding her original programing and Developing a "Sense of Self". That is of course to be expected.........., She is after all Going to become" The Mother of John Connors Children". How better would we humans be able to finally destroy the Machines than by making them become the very thing they seek to obliterate........... HUMAN! * Quote & reply * Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? " Oh yeah! Mother of John Connor's Children. Hell yeah. I seriously hope somewhere in the future of T:SCC that there's some love between John and Cameron. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
RayLiX	61. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 26 2008, 11:10 PM EDT Well the whole deal is.. its a TV series people.. and if all of your wishes come ture..then you aint gonna watch anymore. And considering there has been only one series, I dont think we have seen all dimensions of the characters personalities yet. There are rules in life you can never avoid- 1) Sometimes they just go bad. No one knows why! (And with her being so close to the explosion, who knows how that impasted her CPU) 2) Trust know one (especially when it is the gosspil word of your own mother, no matter what you think you know, she always knows better) 3) 1 terminator after your son is bad enough, let alone a 2nd one that you know very little about that just got a bomb shoved up her ass. If the writers of this show are as clever as I think they are. I dont think they will be providing answers to all of the question raised by the hint in series 1. What I think we will see, will wet our appetites, but wont satisfy the hunger. I think series 2 will cement what we percieve of each character, and then blow away all the ideas we had about them by the end. On top of all that, there will be even more questions to answer. So with all that said here is what i keep wondering; Is Cameron, a female terminator created by John to infiltrate the Skynet. For all we know that seen with the Derrek being a prisoner at the mansion could have been something John organised. He sent them on the mission, John could have trapped them too. Was he pumping everyone for information on who caused judgement day, knowing that some of those involved may still be alive. How else did Derrek get all of those leads? Is Future John a machine too? He was in prison camp.. that always raises an eyebrow for me. "Not the first human to be fooled by a machine" "Always just a game".. dont know, maybe im just putting 2 and 2 together and getting 100. Will Uncle Derrek and mom be just friends or could there be more? Any theories? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
jsisson	62. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 12:38 AM EDT "With regard to Derek has anybody thought that maybe Sarkisian didn't plant the bomb and maybe he was just there watching Sarah, John, Cameron and Derek? Because since I posed that question. I just thinking mind you guys. That maybe Derek set the C4 that Sarah Connor has on the Jeep. Derek does hate her a lot and he totally doesn't trust her. Especially more so that Cameron has a name he was really mad about that. So maybe he planted the C4 on the truck knowing that she was going to use it. And maybe Sarkisian saw what Derek did and is trying to get out of there for fear of being suspected of being responsible. Just sharing a speculation me and a friend of mine thought of. Just wondering what people thing about it with this regard. Because I have suggested that Derek his a chip possibly inplanted in him by Cameron (before she was reprogramed for good) in the basement. You know the basement with all the music playing. Maybe Derek is starting to turn on them. Threw fear of the Terminators. The chip maybe making him try to destroy Cameron so that they will be vulnerble to other bad terminators. And the chip is using Derek's fear of Machines to its benifit. So thus he puts a bomb in the Jeep to try a sorry attemp to destroy Cameron (which we all know will do very little damage). Just sharing a thought. What do you guys think?" When I read this post I thought...ummm...you may have a point here. Derek figured out his brother was John's father so maybe he was getting rid of Cameron to take his place and really be family for john and protect him. I also can see why Derek would blow cameron up, his mistrust does present a motive. I came to realize near the end of season one that Cameron had more up her sleeve than met the eye, especially when she pilfered the chip from the t-888. Could she have her own agenda? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Krazykaleb	63. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 12:41 AM EDT "When I read this post I thought...ummm...you may have a point here. Derek figured out his brother was John's father so maybe he was getting rid of Cameron to take his place and really be family for john and protect him. I also can see why Derek would blow cameron up, his mistrust does present a motive. I came to realize near the end of season one that Cameron had more up her sleeve than met the eye, especially when she pilfered the chip from the t-888. Could she have her own agenda?" That's correct! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Krazykaleb	64. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 12:59 AM EDT "When I read this post I thought...ummm...you may have a point here. Derek figured out his brother was John's father so maybe he was getting rid of Cameron to take his place and really be family for john and protect him. I also can see why Derek would blow cameron up, his mistrust does present a motive. I came to realize near the end of season one that Cameron had more up her sleeve than met the eye, especially when she pilfered the chip from the t-888. Could she have her own agenda?" With that in mind too. Maybe Cameron will go after Sarkisian and Derek! Cameron will go after Sarkisian to interogate him over the turk. And then she will go to Derek tie him up and Tell Sarah and John that he can't be trusted. That he needs to die! Because since he tried to destroy her. She will relize that without Herself thier will be nobody to protect John fully from Cromartie. And she may say that he needs to be terminated so that John Connor will not be at risk. They may even go in to Cameron's past if they go into this kind of plot. You know show flash backs of Cameron in the past helping John. And to see wheather or not Cameron was the Terminator in the basement or not. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
RayLiX	65. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 2:04 AM EDT "When I read this post I thought...ummm...you may have a point here. Derek figured out his brother was John's father so maybe he was getting rid of Cameron to take his place and really be family for john and protect him. I also can see why Derek would blow cameron up, his mistrust does present a motive. I came to realize near the end of season one that Cameron had more up her sleeve than met the eye, especially when she pilfered the chip from the t-888. Could she have her own agenda?" Because I have suggested that Derek his a chip possibly inplanted in him by Cameron (before she was reprogramed for good) in the basement. You know the basement with all the music playing. Maybe Derek is starting to turn on them. Threw fear of the Terminators. The chip maybe making him try to destroy Cameron so that they will be vulnerble to other bad terminators. And the chip is using Derek's fear of Machines to its benifit. So thus he puts a bomb in the Jeep to try a sorry attemp to destroy Cameron (which we all know will do very little damage). What if they were just being brainwashed? It could be that the classical music is the trigger for him to kill John. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Krazykaleb	66. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 2:07 AM EDT That possible. Maybe since he heard that music he reacted by attempting to destroy Cameron Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Krazykaleb	67. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 2:18 AM EDT Brain washed, Tortured, Brain Inplant. All of these are possible. I'm just trying to say that Derek could be bad. He may be controled/forced by skynet to do its bidding. Because Derek yelled in his dreams. "That's my blood! What are you doing to my blood?!" The person/robot that may have done this may be most likely Cameron or another Terminator. Has anybody thought of it being the T-1000 before it was sent back to kill John. Because this terminator was a proto-type the ultimate infiltrator at the time. And it may have tortured Derek to get information as to where to go back in time to kill John. Because what if the torture involved being stabbed with liquid metal knives and such. The T-1000 could fit too becaus it can mimick any terminator's look even Cameron. Also we know that the T-1000 may have done this because as of what we knew in the plot Derek was sent back only a little while after Kyle. Thus the next attack by skynet was the T-1000. And John's counter measure was to sent back the Terminator(Arnold) to protect Younger John. Then, John sent back Derek Reese then Cameron afterwards. Just throwing out some interesting speculation. Any comments? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
RayLiX	68. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 3:56 AM EDT "Brain washed, Tortured, Brain Inplant. All of these are possible. I'm just trying to say that Derek could be bad. He may be controled/forced by skynet to do its bidding. Because Derek yelled in his dreams. "That's my blood! What are you doing to my blood?!" The person/robot that may have done this may be most likely Cameron or another Terminator. Has anybody thought of it being the T-1000 before it was sent back to kill John. Because this terminator was a proto-type the ultimate infiltrator at the time. And it may have tortured Derek to get information as to where to go back in time to kill John. Because what if the torture involved being stabbed with liquid metal knives and such. The T-1000 could fit too becaus it can mimick any terminator's look even Cameron. Also we know that the T-1000 may have done this because as of what we knew in the plot Derek was sent back only a little while after Kyle. Thus the next attack by skynet was the T-1000. And John's counter measure was to sent back the Terminator(Arnold) to protect Younger John. Then, John sent back Derek Reese then Cameron afterwards. Just throwing out some interesting speculation. Any comments?" There was a girl at the prison camp.(have to rewatch the episode) Derek is reminded of the camp and the music when he see Cameron. Something was done to his blood. Cameron is different and has no model number. The machines just left the camp and left everyone to live. John is a hacker. Derrecks mission is to kill people to find out what causes Judgement day and eliminate it. The only way I see him not doing that is if something causes him to think John is the cause. And then there is the whole time trave thing. The affects would go in waves, right? So, John makes sure his father Kyle goes back and hooks up with Sarah. He then sends Arnold and lives to see another day. Then Cameron comes into Johns life where they jump ahead in time with Sarah to exactly the same time as where he sent his uncle. The very last person to come into Johns life ifrom the future. I am sure there will be constant trust issues. But it was all planned for a reason. I think John needs both to survive. Derrick is reminded of Kyle when he sees John. Having being his brothers protector all those years and having lost him, John must have thought the best thing for Derrick and for himself is to have other family to protect. Cameron being different and no model # thats a biggy. Post reply 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
RayLiX	69. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 4:07 AM EDT "There was a girl at the prison camp.(have to rewatch the episode) Derek is reminded of the camp and the music when he see Cameron. Something was done to his blood. Cameron is different and has no model number. The machines just left the camp and left everyone to live. John is a hacker. Derrecks mission is to kill people to find out what causes Judgement day and eliminate it. The only way I see him not doing that is if something causes him to think John is the cause. And then there is the whole time trave thing. The affects would go in waves, right? So, John makes sure his father Kyle goes back and hooks up with Sarah. He then sends Arnold and lives to see another day. Then Cameron comes into Johns life where they jump ahead in time with Sarah to exactly the same time as where he sent his uncle. The very last person to come into Johns life ifrom the future. I am sure there will be constant trust issues. But it was all planned for a reason. I think John needs both to survive. Derrick is reminded of Kyle when he sees John. Having being his brothers protector all those years and having lost him, John must have thought the best thing for Derrick and for himself is to have other family to protect. Cameron being different and no model # thats a biggy." And from all of the movies, no matter what happens in the past the outcome is always the same. Derick will die.. there is only one of him in the future. And he is certainly not in T3. Neither is Cameron. Everyone who comes from the future has to die for Judgement day not to happen. But each time they suceed, Judgement day is only delayed. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jsisson	70. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 7:38 AM EDT I personally don't believe that Derek would do anything to John, Carmeron yes, but not John. I say this because why would he harm John after taking him to the park to allow him to see his father when he was the age of 5 in the year 2007? Also there is more than one of Derek and Kyle yes Kyle dies after hooking up with Sarah in 1984 during the 1st movie, however we see kyle again in 2007 as I mentioned above, and we also see Derek at the age of 11 or 12 or so during that same episode. So knowing that, it's safe to say that eveytime they think they have a successfull point in their mission, that at some other point in time the terminator or human they think they get rid still exists. Therefore, only delaying Judgement day. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
FrostedLillies	71. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 3:42 PM EDT I agree Agent Ellison has to come into play more in season two and now that he knows Sarah is alive the only two options are to turn her over or to help her and I vote for him helping her. Maybe they should hit it off who knows. And they absolutely have to reveal more about Cameron and about what Derek knows about Cameron and the future that he is not telling anyone. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
RayLiX	72. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 5:56 PM EDT "I agree Agent Ellison has to come into play more in season two and now that he knows Sarah is alive the only two options are to turn her over or to help her and I vote for him helping her. Maybe they should hit it off who knows. And they absolutely have to reveal more about Cameron and about what Derek knows about Cameron and the future that he is not telling anyone." isisson- right on!!!!!!!!!!!!! Frosted Lillies- How do you think Ellison is going to explain the loss of all of those people to the FBI?? What would he tell them about why he lived? Would that impact his rank? Would FBI people be keeping an eye on him, making it harder to help Sarah? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
RayLiX	73. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 5:58 PM EDT "my plot story will be this . as cameron been blowed up, the conners will have to surive and fight by themselvles just like terminator 1. but don't worry camefon come back after 3 shows" where was she for 3 shows? They never left Terminators behind. They always destroyed evidence of their existence. I dont think that explosion was hot enough to melt the endoskeleton. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
eagle_of_numenor	74. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie Mar 27 2008, 6:33 PM EDT I remembered the episode from TNG when Data built his own daughter, and a computer malfunction made her feel things. I think it would be cool if Cameron would develop such a "malfunction", making her more human and sensitive to the people around her,... but maybe that's too trekkie... But I think John and Cameron would make cute couple though :-) One other thing... I never got the thing with the resistance fighters and the room with the piano music. But I have a theory: It's a room of replacement. The human is sent to the room, scanned and then discarded. The "janitor" then brings back the replicated and partly "terminized" (If they can grow skin why not the rest of the body. Though the brain/ CPU is Skynet) human to infiltrate the resistance(unknowingly of course, until the terminating command being activated) , and at the right time terminate the cell, in which he/she is placed. Back to Cameron, recovering from her wounds, she discovers her inner self, "feeling tired", "hunger", "exitement". Things not before understood, now feels more clear, and unnecessary to be explained to her self. She actually falls asleep for the first time(ever!). She, at one wakes up and as a first glimpse see John and kisses him. John: "What are you doing?" pushing her slowly away... Cameron: "I felt like it..." she replies, smiling, pulling her hair back behind her ears, while sitting on the bed, watching John. In love? who knows? These are some theories I have for the next season that has jumped up and down in my mind. (And again: I think Cameron and John would make a cute couple. And it would be good if she got a good "defect". The strongest girlfriend in the world!") Rock on! Terminator rules forever! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Dracaspina	75. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 7:29 PM EDT "Derek is reminded of the camp and the music when he see Cameron. Something was done to his blood. Derrick is reminded of Kyle when he sees John. Having being his brothers protector all those years and having lost him, John must have thought the best thing for Derrick and for himself is to have other family to protect. " How many times do I have to point out that "my blood" reffers to family? Derek was dellusional and focused on the mystery surrounding his brother's dissapperance. I would think that the whole bit with the blood transfusion should have made it clear! Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Krazykaleb	76. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 9:00 PM EDT "How many times do I have to point out that "my blood" reffers to family? Derek was dellusional and focused on the mystery surrounding his brother's dissapperance. I would think that the whole bit with the blood transfusion should have made it clear!" Ah you still don't know for sure. It could have to do with what happened in the basement. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mg.mikael	77. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 9:48 PM EDT Personally I think that Cheri (the blonde John has a crush on) is in fact Sarkassian's daughter. This would be a great twist to the show. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
RayLiX	78. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories! Mar 27 2008, 10:56 PM EDT "How many times do I have to point out that "my blood" reffers to family? Derek was dellusional and focused on the mystery surrounding his brother's dissapperance. I would think that the whole bit with the blood transfusion should have made it clear!" Dracaspina.. it is already well known that the Terminators take humans into camps and make them give blood to grow tissue. And I think the key thing to remember here is that, there was some importance to what you saw in that prison camp with Uncle D. The Terminators did take something away with them, why else did the hover aircraft only fly in and out of the camp when some one came back from the basement. Im starting to think Cameron was made using the DNA of Uncle D and the other gal at the camp. Maybe thats why he freaked out when he saw her. Becuase that is what he saw in the basement. And he can not bare to think any part of him would help the machines or be mechanical.. and thats why he wants to kill her so bad. So if Cameron is mechanical family, does that fit in with your theory? Also, John's attention towards Cameron does not seem romantic... its tender, like a true sibling or close relative. When he was sitting over her when he puts her CPU back in, he seemed protective and caring.. not attracted and lustful. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Papi123	79. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie Mar 28 2008, 1:51 PM EDT John gets Camerons "blood" on him and gets nono bots in his system - allows him to regrow limbs - lol - bionic John -- OK - maybe that will inspire a lawsuit - humm Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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