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Wild-Kat
Wild-Kat
Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 4:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 4:27 PM EDT
What are your plot spoiler theories for Season 2? Post 'em here and check out the Sarah Connor Chronicles: Season 2 Predictions page for more dishing and dissecting on Season 1! 26  out of 28 found this valuable. Do you?    
SgtSharp
SgtSharp
1. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 4:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 4:51 PM EDT
"What are your plot spoiler theories for Season 2? Post 'em here and check out the Sarah Connor Chronicles: Season 2 Predictions page for more dishing and dissecting on Season 1!"
I would like to see a "bad" Cameron.

I mean, more like a virus (sent by Cromartie for example) turning Cameron bad or Skynet sending another Cameron in the past, but a bad one, and this one would take place of the "true" / Cameron during few episodes ... then John Connor would have to find and save the good Cameron .. and then they would make babies.. ah, no, i'm going too far.sry.

that would be great ...
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Finney23
2. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 18 2008, 5:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 5:22 PM EDT
I love the show i can't really think of any theories other then see what type of terminator Cameron is.

personally i think that the first thing you are going to see is cameron being rushed into the connors house and then Cromartie will carry on his search for John i don't think that Cameron will be bad as i have said before the explosion was not big enough to do any damage to her i mean look at the blast that was taken from the weapon that hit cromartite in the bank that was bigger then that!!!!!

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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
3. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 5:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 5:26 PM EDT
I think they need to use that Bar of Coltan as a repair metal for Cameron when she gets injured from the explosion. She should be missing like an arm or somthing. Then Cameron will have to wear a jacket with a glove on one hand to hide it at school. Plus in that same episode they need to show somthing interesting about her skin. Like for example since they blew off alot of skin off Cameron in season 1 finally explosion. They need to reveal that her skin can regenerate really fast (sort of like wolverine). Then they need to reveal in the plot that Sarkisian really works for as a group with a number of Skynets Terminators sent back from the future. Sort of like the men who worked for the Terminator who got stuck in the nuclear Fall out shelter. Then while they reveal this they need to show the Audience that the TURK is not really that laptop but actually a program created by 15 programers. So now they need to find all 15 programers and stop them from completing their smart computer. Or terminate them completly. Because in the future Andy Good said that he was a liar with along 15 other people who created skynet. So the problem is a lot bigger than they realize. Like Ms Chamberland was creating Skynets nervous system. While Andy good was creating the brain. But what about the future arms and legs like the factories that need to be distroyed too!
So for sure we need more human enemies. We could even have the human enemies be terroists who attemp to create a computer program that takes over the entire USA mainframe. But instead creates Skynet! But I think the Idea of Bad Terminators and bad humans should end up working together.
Then Agent Ellison should now start his investigation from Sarah Connor and focus on Getting Cromartie with the help of Sarah Connor. He needs to start working with Sarah, John, Cameron and Derek as a FBI opperetion to stop a terroist/crime organization from creating skynet to take over the world.
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TOPquark
TOPquark
4. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 5:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 5:42 PM EDT
Great idea! Let's see who gets closest in the end.

Here's my theory: (posted before, just wanna leave a record here...)

We all know that John's father was sent back from future. In other words, if there's no war John would not exist. So far not even Cameron knows that. But I think when she figure out she'll stop helping John destroy skynet. Both because of her mission to protect John and her "personal affection" towards him.

When Judgemen day happens she became an accomplice for destroying humanity, hiding in the basement we saw, still protecting John, in her way. And John became solitary for he can't let anyone knows his true feeling towards Cameron. Kinda like an apocalyptical version of Romeo & Juliet.

And this explains why John and skynet become leaders of there sides: They can't kill each other.
We saw John and Sarah tried not only once to stop skynet being born. Maybe that's because it's a time paradox. John doesn't exist if not for skynet. And vice versa.
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
5. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 5:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 5:53 PM EDT
"Great idea! Let's see who gets closest in the end.

Here's my theory: (posted before, just wanna leave a record here...)

We all know that John's father was sent back from future. In other words, if there's no war John would not exist. So far not even Cameron knows that. But I think when she figure out she'll stop helping John destroy skynet. Both because of her mission to protect John and her "personal affection" towards him.

When Judgemen day happens she became an accomplice for destroying humanity, hiding in the basement we saw, still protecting John, in her way. And John became solitary for he can't let anyone knows his true feeling towards Cameron. Kinda like an apocalyptical version of Romeo & Juliet.

And this explains why John and skynet become leaders of there sides: They can't kill each other.
We saw John and Sarah tried not only once to stop skynet being born. Maybe that's because it's a time paradox. John doesn't exist if not for skynet. And vice versa."
Yes maybe the show will end the John Dieing and Skynet being distroyed around the same time.
But I do say that Humans/Terrorist/Criminals will work with the bad terminators to create skynet!
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
6. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 5:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 5:56 PM EDT
"I think they need to use that Bar of Coltan as a repair metal for Cameron when she gets injured from the explosion. She should be missing like an arm or somthing. Then Cameron will have to wear a jacket with a glove on one hand to hide it at school. Plus in that same episode they need to show somthing interesting about her skin. Like for example since they blew off alot of skin off Cameron in season 1 finally explosion. They need to reveal that her skin can regenerate really fast (sort of like wolverine). Then they need to reveal in the plot that Sarkisian really works for as a group with a number of Skynets Terminators sent back from the future. Sort of like the men who worked for the Terminator who got stuck in the nuclear Fall out shelter. Then while they reveal this they need to show the Audience that the TURK is not really that laptop but actually a program created by 15 programers. So now they need to find all 15 programers and stop them from completing their smart computer. Or terminate them completly. Because in the future Andy Good said that he was a liar with along 15 other people who created skynet. So the problem is a lot bigger than they realize. Like Ms Chamberland was creating Skynets nervous system. While Andy good was creating the brain. But what about the future arms and legs like the factories that need to be distroyed too!
So for sure we need more human enemies. We could even have the human enemies be terroists who attemp to create a computer program that takes over the entire USA mainframe. But instead creates Skynet! But I think the Idea of Bad Terminators and bad humans should end up working together.
Then Agent Ellison should now start his investigation from Sarah Connor and focus on Getting Cromartie with the help of Sarah Connor. He needs to start working with Sarah, John, Cameron and Derek as a FBI opperetion to stop a terroist/crime organization from creating skynet to take over the world."
By the way the Turk is a cover-up for a bigger program being made by 15 terrorist progamers! 2 of which are dead now Ms Chamberland and Andy Good so currently their are 13 people left to find. Plus I think Cameron is either recreated by John Connor. Based on another terminator that looks exactly the same as Cameron. We will learn that in the future skynet has developed technology to make instantly regererateing skin using blood from actual people!
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almighty_smiley
almighty_smiley
7. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 18 2008, 5:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 5:56 PM EDT
In a twist of irony, Cameron "goes bad" (face it, people, there's no way in hell the writers would let that one go), and is brought back to John's side or shuts down to rid herself of the virus (ala T3).

Sarkie, while not a Terminator, is in league with Skynet/Turk in some way, leading him to bomb the car. It's possible that he was corrupted by the system, quite possibly making Sarkie the "first" Terminator.

Cromartie continues his search, until finally brought down/captured by Ellison. He's dismantled and used as research, finding his way back into his body or another a la Vick. The tech provided allows the FBI to begin research on weapons to dismantle the machines, such as, I dunno, phased plasma rifles with a 40 watt range.

As for Sarah and Derek, I think it'll get close, but either he or she will stop it due to their memories and respect for Kyle.
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Sully889
8. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 18 2008, 6:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 6:02 PM EDT
Ellison is released and replaced by Fox Molder. Just kidding
How about something that makes John snap. Like Sarah nearly getting killed by someone. Cameron's continued interest in humans. I like where it has gone so far, so I hope they just continue to move from there plus the added twist here and there.
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Michelle67D
Michelle67D
9. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 18 2008, 6:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 6:08 PM EDT
"We all know that John's father was sent back from future. In other words, if there's no war John would not exist. So far not even Cameron knows that. But I think when she figure out she'll stop helping John destroy skynet. Both because of her mission to protect John and her "personal affection" towards him.
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Now I really like this. Cameron not being able to help destroy skynet because it conflicts with protecting John. That would be a huge for Cameron.

I like your Romeo and Juliet thing as well.

I think John is simply going to have the worst birthday of his life if Cameron winds up severely damaged. I kinda think that she won't be in bad shape in the series opener but that as the next few episodes begin to unfold I think we'll see her start to behave strangely. Derek will probably think she's going bad.

After the explosion Charlie will respond to the ambulance call with Ellison in tow and coming together with the Conners the resistance will be born.

Also hoping that we get to see how Cameron is different.
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nmrx105
nmrx105
10. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 18 2008, 8:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 8:14 PM EDT
Well , since Cameron was in the car , and no one knows if she was in the car, so i should say is either therory 1 is cameron was never in the car and she was in a different car, and some else was in the car like derek reese, or some else. or 2 she was in the car but only some of her endoskeleton was barly damaged, or better yet she was never in the car, so please don't take cameron of the show, she needs to stay. and use ur imagination from the rest of the termianator films. 11  out of 15 found this valuable. Do you?    
Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
11. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 8:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 8:33 PM EDT
"By the way the Turk is a cover-up for a bigger program being made by 15 terrorist progamers! 2 of which are dead now Ms Chamberland and Andy Good so currently their are 13 people left to find. Plus I think Cameron is either recreated by John Connor. Based on another terminator that looks exactly the same as Cameron. We will learn that in the future skynet has developed technology to make instantly regererateing skin using blood from actual people!"
I would like to also see that Time Travel becomes a bigger plot factor next season! Maybe have Cameron Explain that John pre-programed her to be aware of things in the past to protect herself and John Connor. Along with the clues to destroy skynet. Because I think she keeps the chip and the bar of metal as a mission objective by John Connor to make sure she can acomplish her mission. Because Future John May know about this stuff and he may have programed Cameron to be aware of the object will be needed in the future. Kindof like that movie Paycheck. Yet Cameron is the tool not the twenty-one items!

More flash backs with Derek and maybe even Cameron? Yes Cameron. I would like to see wheather she Daydreams about what she has done in the past too. We may learn that her terminator is created by Skynet. But, Cameron was stolen and reverse engineered by John Connor to be a new bread of robot. A compassionate terminator as it were. This may help her character to be understood as more human. I would also like to see if they will show flash backs for Sarah Connor maybe even show Arnold from the neck down since Arnold can't exactly be in the show! Or have nightmares of a T-1000 killing her and John. Because I thought the nightmares were cool last season.
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outlander00
12. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 8:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 8:54 PM EDT
"I would like to also see that Time Travel becomes a bigger plot factor next season! Maybe have Cameron Explain that John pre-programed her to be aware of things in the past to protect herself and John Connor. Along with the clues to destroy skynet. ***

More flash backs with Derek and maybe even Cameron? Yes Cameron. ***"
I agree that flashbacks with Derek and maybe some scenes "from the future" from Cameron's perspective would be cool. However, I respectfully disagree with the use of time travel. Time travel to me is like magic spells; kind of cool when used from time to time, but a very dangerous plot device when used with any semblance of regularity. It encourages writer laziness by enabling writers to quickly resolve inconsistencies and write themselves out of holes. That isn't cool.

I think the show should restrict the use of time travel to REALLY change up something in the show - no more than one use per season.
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
13. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 18 2008, 9:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 9:10 PM EDT
"I agree that flashbacks with Derek and maybe some scenes "from the future" from Cameron's perspective would be cool. However, I respectfully disagree with the use of time travel. Time travel to me is like magic spells; kind of cool when used from time to time, but a very dangerous plot device when used with any semblance of regularity. It encourages writer laziness by enabling writers to quickly resolve inconsistencies and write themselves out of holes. That isn't cool.

I think the show should restrict the use of time travel to REALLY change up something in the show - no more than one use per season."
I think thing could get a little more interesting with at least one more time travel sequence put into the plot. Because I'm an avid fan of Time Travel Theory. Especially movies like: Back to the Future, Paycheck, Minority Report, Frequency, Deje Vu, The Time Machine and NEXT. I think that time travel explains a lot of problems people find with the series. But to me I've have found none.

But I agree that they should do it again but, not often. Like maybe one more time if any. I just think the idea was cool in the second episode because it help explain a lot of problems connecting it with the first two movies. If there were any.
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Grrrumpy
Grrrumpy
14. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 18 2008, 10:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2008, 10:52 PM EDT

Grrrumpy RE: Cameron's wierd behavior--is she good or bad? What are your theory
Today, 8:28 PM EDT
Is She Good or Bad?................ Actually, She's working that out as we speak! She is for the time being, following her programing and protecting John Connor. The big secret with Cameron is not weather or not She's Good or Evil- It's that She is a Sentient being capable of determining for herself her own goodness or evil inclinations. Like most of us she'll probably turn out to be a little of both. If you will recall she has said she was "Different", "A New design", "Perfect in every way!". To be even more clear, She is in the process of exceeding her original programing and Developing a "Sense of Self". That is of course to be expected.........., She is after all Going to become" The Mother of John Connors Children". How better would we humans be able to finally destroy the Machines than by making them become the very thing they seek to obliterate........... HUMAN!

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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
15. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 19 2008, 12:37 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 12:37 AM EDT
"I would like to also see that Time Travel becomes a bigger plot factor next season! Maybe have Cameron Explain that John pre-programed her to be aware of things in the past to protect herself and John Connor. Along with the clues to destroy skynet. Because I think she keeps the chip and the bar of metal as a mission objective by John Connor to make sure she can acomplish her mission. Because Future John May know about this stuff and he may have programed Cameron to be aware of the object will be needed in the future. Kindof like that movie Paycheck. Yet Cameron is the tool not the twenty-one items!

More flash backs with Derek and maybe even Cameron? Yes Cameron. I would like to see wheather she Daydreams about what she has done in the past too. We may learn that her terminator is created by Skynet. But, Cameron was stolen and reverse engineered by John Connor to be a new bread of robot. A compassionate terminator as it were. This may help her character to be understood as more human. I would also like to see if they will show flash backs for Sarah Connor maybe even show Arnold from the neck down since Arnold can't exactly be in the show! Or have nightmares of a T-1000 killing her and John. Because I thought the nightmares were cool last season. "
Then we will discover that Derek is working for skynet in the future! Because remember the music. Remember the basement? Yep, I think a bad version of Cameron if not the Cameron before she was reprogramed inplanted a chip into Derek's blood stream.
He was yelling in his flash backs, "What are you doing to my blood?! That's my blood!" Yep he may have a chip in the form of liquid metal nano technology. Which was created by skynet. Just Imagine Cameron is John Connors experiment for creating a humanlike termnator in it most realistic form. While skynet is creating it own new weapon. By attemping to make humans more like terminators.
The liquid metal nano bots will move in Derek's blood stream and find the areas of the Brain that need to be controlled. Then they will morph into the lineing of the blood vessel and stab electrodes into his brain. Thus his mind will be feed: Mission objectives, Goals, and it will enhance his sensory to a greater level! It will start to work on Derek's mind sublinminally by putting messages of fear of Cameron. Because with that fear he will want her destroyed. And with Cameron distroyed she will not be their to protect John and Sarah Connor. It will keep working on his mind subliminally untill he is totally controled by the nano liquid robots. (lets term them NLR-101s). Then before he know it he will be controlled by these robots and it will progressively happen over a little while almost like a child growing up.
Because remember Cameron told John about Vick's chip and that he was a advanced infiltrator. And it wouldn't be the first time a person was conviced by a machine. So Derek is a new bread a Human terminator sublliminally trained by skynets technology! He will start to become more like a robot while Cameron will start to become more like a human! Because remember Derek killed Andy Good and almost killed that security officer for no reason! Sarah even got mad a him for that so you never know.
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
16. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 19 2008, 12:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 12:43 AM EDT
Then Derek also looked at Cameron really weird-like when he showed John and Sarah the Microchip. And it will also explain why Cameron and Derek know each other. They are enemies with conflicting missions. Camerons mission is to protect John and Sarah and stop skynet. While Derek's is to create skynet. Because both of them have lied Cameron about the chip and Derek about killing Andy Good. So both of them could be against each other. Plus Derek since he would be a terminator controled by skynet technology.He had that sarcastic remark about Cameron not eating. So I'm sure they are lieing about each other.
This is just a contination of my speculation that bad terminator and humans will work together to create skynet. Wheather they want to or not.

KrazyKaleb
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FrenchFanofTSCC
17. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theorie
Mar 19 2008, 12:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 12:57 PM EDT
u right for season 2 can be,i add nice slide pics to my wiki page !
can't wait for season 2 coming !!!
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legendblaze
legendblaze
18. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 19 2008, 3:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 3:16 PM EDT
my plot story will be this . as cameron been blowed up, the conners will have to surive and fight by themselvles just like terminator 1. but don't worry camefon come back after 3 shows 1  out of 9 found this valuable. Do you?    

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19. RE: Plot Spoilers! Help the writers for Season 2 work out plot theories!
Mar 19 2008, 7:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2008, 7:57 PM EDT
"my plot story will be this . as cameron been blowed up, the conners will have to surive and fight by themselvles just like terminator 1. but don't worry camefon come back after 3 shows"
here is what I think will happen in the season 2 premiere: Cameron survives the explosion, but as she walks away from the blast; it is shown that pieces of her skin had burned off, revealing bits of her endoskeletal structure to those who had witnessed the blast; which include the Connors, and Derek. After healing for a few days, Cameron says they need to go back in time; to prevent Andy Goode from being killed, and from the Turk being turned into the concept that ends up bringing about the birth of Skynet. Once that is done, Cameron then says they need to make another jump through time; this time to prevent cyberdyne from aquiring the arm and chip from the first terminator that was sent back through time to kill Sarah Connor.
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