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randomicity912
randomicity912
60. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 28 2008, 3:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2008, 3:30 PM EDT
Yeah. The writer's just aren't that stupid. Cameron is just too important, not to mention a major badass. Plus they can develop Cameron more. She already has a personality and is beginning to understand emotions and concepts such as good and evil and life and death etc. You never know. Cameron may reach a point where she is practically human. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
T-1976
T-1976
61. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 28 2008, 5:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2008, 5:27 PM EDT
C'mon everybody...of course Cameron will be back :) She's as much a part of the show as Sarah is.......and her name is in the title! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

LiquidMetal
62. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 28 2008, 5:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2008, 5:43 PM EDT
"C'mon everybody...of course Cameron will be back :) She's as much a part of the show as Sarah is.......and her name is in the title! "
Exactly!

Come on folks, Cameron coming back is a no brainer. The bigger issue is bringing T:SCC back for another Season!
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T-1976
T-1976
63. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 28 2008, 6:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2008, 6:22 PM EDT
"Exactly!

Come on folks, Cameron coming back is a no brainer. The bigger issue is bringing T:SCC back for another Season! "
Indeed! :)

And I think we are getting close to official confirmation. Keep supporting the show!
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VodkaPowered
VodkaPowered
64. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 28 2008, 6:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2008, 6:48 PM EDT
fox executives r slow! if i didnt know better i'd say they r government employees!
TSCC is popular, alot of viewers...... just ink deal already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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drees
drees
65. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 29 2008, 3:34 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2008, 3:34 AM EDT
yeh there is plenty more to be told about cameron she said that she was different and there is a huge story to be told about her 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

Captaincranky
66. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 29 2008, 3:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2008, 3:55 PM EDT
Thus far in this thread it has been discussed about "Cameron" becoming more "human", and a deeper relationship evolving between John and her. This has already happened. Remember the Ballet scene? It featured a voice over by Sarah Conner exclaiming that once machines are capable of creating art, they will become us. Also, witness the scene where John must remove Cameron's CPU. There was a great deal of reluctance and concern on john's part when he undertook this. I read into that, that he has already developed a great deal of affection for her, which, (assuming she stays "good", could only increase.
OK now, is there anybody in this thread who honestly believes that without Summer Glau, you would actually have a show?
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randomicity912
randomicity912
67. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 29 2008, 4:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2008, 4:15 PM EDT
There would still be a show, just not as good as the current show. Kind of like a pizza without a topping. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

Lopine
68. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 29 2008, 9:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2008, 9:30 PM EDT
"Thus far in this thread it has been discussed about "Cameron" becoming more "human", and a deeper relationship evolving between John and her. This has already happened. Remember the Ballet scene? It featured a voice over by Sarah Conner exclaiming that once machines are capable of creating art, they will become us. Also, witness the scene where John must remove Cameron's CPU. There was a great deal of reluctance and concern on john's part when he undertook this. I read into that, that he has already developed a great deal of affection for her, which, (assuming she stays "good", could only increase.
OK now, is there anybody in this thread who honestly believes that without Summer Glau, you would actually have a show? "
Ya but Cameron is still a killin machine. She uses her emotions to get close to her targer, learn what she have to and then complete her mission. Just like the terminator did that helped his wife build that survalience program that watches cars etc. He used emotions to get close to her, made her belive he waz human, Then when everythin waz done he killed her. Almost same thing with Cameron, she used her emotions to get close to John and now that she have done that she no longer needs thoz emotions. And i think that no mater how good she gets with mimicing humans she will never become a human. She will always be a machine. She might look like us and act like us but she will stil be a machine. Dont get me wrong i think that Cameron is a very cool caracter. And that carbomb thing. That waz probebly just another "Normal" carbomb. Because that mafia dude dozent know that the machines exist. Nether the knolage how to kill one of the machines. And i dont think that John, Sarah and Derek knows exactly what model she is or anythin about her. So therefor thay did this carbomb. Then she will have to explain more about her self. I mean tell John and Sarah and Derek if he whould actuly lisen to her for ones. On what model she is and what her mission is. Because she dozent take orders from anybody. Only John Conner from the feature. Not the present one. So shes free to to what ever she wants to do. Well as long as it dozent jeperdize the mission. And i wonder why Derek hates Cameron so mutch? And why he keeps saying she cant be trusted. And why she is a trator. And i think John Connor programed Cameron in the feature to be some on he could cere about. Because iv noticed that John dozent trust anbody not even his own mother. But he have always bin around machines. And thay have always bin there for him. So i think he trusts them more then humans. But he still seams to hate Skynet. And still wants so save humanity. Thoughts?
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Postal_Maniac
Postal_Maniac
69. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 29 2008, 11:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2008, 11:20 PM EDT
"Thermite in the bomb. That has to be a bomb by Derek Reese! He must have planted it if you say it was Thermite. Because I'm sure Sarkisian doesn't know about terminators yet."
How about: Derek told Sarkissian to put thermite in the bomb? Derek wants to get rid of the terminator in the family, but he wants Sarkissian to take the blame. Cameron survives somehow. Sarah finds out about it anyway. Sarah beats up Derek.
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Postal_Maniac
Postal_Maniac
70. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 29 2008, 11:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2008, 11:28 PM EDT
"There isn't. The guy was speculating or joking."
Yes, speculation. Also, Cameron can't be destroyed as long as her chip survives. Cameron is a machine with interchangeable parts, and that makes her easier to repair than the average human. If Cameron's body is destroyed and she can't get a new one right away, she could even live inside John's leet Korean supercomputer for a while. Of course, most of her time would be spent planning to build a new body, because Cameron can't protect John if she can't kick much ass.
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Captaincranky
71. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 30 2008, 2:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2008, 2:52 AM EDT
Well, they have to bring her back, since I can't picture Fox missing a gold plated opportunity to hang some spectacular prom dress on Summer Glau, then having her sneak out of the dance and kill a few people. Man, that's entertainment! 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
drees
drees
72. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 30 2008, 3:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2008, 3:00 AM EDT
could bei ntresting if camron lives on in a supercomputer the phrases "somtimes they go bad comes to mind" wouldnt be safe to match the worlds most sophisticated learning cpu to any of our computers 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    

Lopine
73. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 30 2008, 7:49 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2008, 7:49 AM EDT
"Well, they have to bring her back, since I can't picture Fox missing a gold plated opportunity to hang some spectacular prom dress on Summer Glau, then having her sneak out of the dance and kill a few people. Man, that's entertainment!"
Lol i forgot about that. I cant wate to se him dance with her. Man thats gonna be some serious fun! =D Btw Cameron is vital to the show in the way she is the only one that can protect John form the hostile Terminators. So she will be back. And with about 78 mill watchin the final the show will be back.
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Captaincranky
74. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 30 2008, 11:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2008, 11:58 PM EDT
"Lol i forgot about that. I cant wate to se him dance with her. Man thats gonna be some serious fun! =D Btw Cameron is vital to the show in the way she is the only one that can protect John form the hostile Terminators. So she will be back. And with about 78 mill watchin the final the show will be back."
Was that 78 Million or 7.8 million? 78 million is superbowl numbers, whereas 7.8 million is on the bubble. Studios tend to be impatient and Sci-Fi series tend to need time to build up a following. It is disheartening when you consider some crap-travaganza like "Let's make a deal" can double or triple the 7.8 mil figure everytime they choose to air it. Anyway, Cameron is one prom date you wouldn't want to try the "laying on of hands" thing prematurely. It usually would result in a slap or two. In this case the lady might be using you head as a bowling ball after the dance. I wonder if she's programmed to pick up the 7-10 split? I wonder if she's programmed with standard, age appropriate moral convictions. I wonder if she could sink a bad date from three point territory?
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Lopine
75. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 31 2008, 1:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 31 2008, 1:41 PM EDT
"Was that 78 Million or 7.8 million? 78 million is superbowl numbers, whereas 7.8 million is on the bubble. Studios tend to be impatient and Sci-Fi series tend to need time to build up a following. It is disheartening when you consider some crap-travaganza like "Let's make a deal" can double or triple the 7.8 mil figure everytime they choose to air it. Anyway, Cameron is one prom date you wouldn't want to try the "laying on of hands" thing prematurely. It usually would result in a slap or two. In this case the lady might be using you head as a bowling ball after the dance. I wonder if she's programmed to pick up the 7-10 split? I wonder if she's programmed with standard, age appropriate moral convictions. I wonder if she could sink a bad date from three point territory?"
Oh i missed that dot in the 7.8 mill. Ether way its still alot of people watchin. But Cameron just killed a dude because he waz following them and stole his car. But i still cant wate to se her go on Prom with that dude. I mean she can dance but i still wonder what she will do or how he and she will react to that situation. And i dont think she is programed with age appropriate mora convictions. I mean shes literly a killing machine. Knowing stuff about age appropriate moral convictions is futile for a killing machine. The only thing she needs to know is how to blend in in human society. So that she can get close to the target and then take him/her out. And she only uses her "emotions" when she deams it nececary to use them. Like when the teacher told her to get back to the group. Then she just flashed a smile and sed ok. But there are alot of things about Cameron that keeps me wonderin if she even is reprogramed or if John programed her to be some on he could trust and like?
And what is her mission? And what is she gonna do with that coltane and that chip? Because i realy dont think its for repair. And if you think back to the first terminator movie arnold sed that he did repair slowly over time. But not as fast as the T-1000. So Cameron should be able to repair small dents and scratches buy her self. But the skin might be more dificult to repair. But i assume she will just be badly burnt and therefor be able to regenerate her skin like she doz with other bruzes and cuts she gets in her fights. And i wonder what she whould do if he grabed her butt?
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T-1976
T-1976
76. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 31 2008, 5:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 31 2008, 5:48 PM EDT
"Oh i missed that dot in the 7.8 mill. Ether way its still alot of people watchin. But Cameron just killed a dude because he waz following them and stole his car. But i still cant wate to se her go on Prom with that dude. I mean she can dance but i still wonder what she will do or how he and she will react to that situation. And i dont think she is programed with age appropriate mora convictions. I mean shes literly a killing machine. Knowing stuff about age appropriate moral convictions is futile for a killing machine. The only thing she needs to know is how to blend in in human society. So that she can get close to the target and then take him/her out. And she only uses her "emotions" when she deams it nececary to use them. Like when the teacher told her to get back to the group. Then she just flashed a smile and sed ok. But there are alot of things about Cameron that keeps me wonderin if she even is reprogramed or if John programed her to be some on he could trust and like?
And what is her mission? And what is she gonna do with that coltane and that chip? Because i realy dont think its for repair. And if you think back to the first terminator movie arnold sed that he did repair slowly over time. But not as fast as the T-1000. So Cameron should be able to repair small dents and scratches buy her self. But the skin might be more dificult to repair. But i assume she will just be badly burnt and therefor be able to regenerate her skin like she doz with other bruzes and cuts she gets in her fights. And i wonder what she whould do if he grabed her butt?"
Interesting you should talk about Cameron's emotions and how she might be using them to further her mission. In the pilot, she used them....I believe...to break the ice with John. So they could introduce themselves to each other. She had to get his attention one way or the other and I think thats how she did it. Using emotion. Thats why she hasnt been that way like she was in school, since.

And the last part...if Morris did that, he WOULD end up in the trunk :P
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Proclus
Proclus
77. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 31 2008, 5:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 31 2008, 5:58 PM EDT
This is maybe the most important aspect of the show. Cameron should develop emotions, and there are signs to that end. She is somewhat an explorer for now. She wonders why us humans write to a dead, wonders her "birthday", even brings a pen and paper to Sarah after Andy's death. She is doing ballet; she feels she has to make conversations, she plays with words almost in a witty way... ("scary robot" conversation anyone?")

Let's now go the human's side. What can we say about John's approach to Cameron? We see an emotional attachment here. Could this be because he's a 16 year old geek and she is, well, a very beautiful girl with a super computer in her head? Why would he try to jump to save Cameron being badly beaten up in the Derek's rescue scene? It is a human response as if for a human in need.

I am really looking forward to the 2nd season!
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LiquidMetal
78. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Mar 31 2008, 7:44 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 31 2008, 7:44 PM EDT
All of you Cameron/Summer fans are gonna love this web site: http://scifi-tv-addict.livejournal.com/23959.html.

I already left my response.
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Captaincranky
79. RE: Do you think Cameron will be back for S2? If so, how will she be d
Apr 1 2008, 12:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2008, 12:11 AM EDT
"This is maybe the most important aspect of the show. Cameron should develop emotions, and there are signs to that end. She is somewhat an explorer for now. She wonders why us humans write to a dead, wonders her "birthday", even brings a pen and paper to Sarah after Andy's death. She is doing ballet; she feels she has to make conversations, she plays with words almost in a witty way... ("scary robot" conversation anyone?")

Let's now go the human's side. What can we say about John's approach to Cameron? We see an emotional attachment here. Could this be because he's a 16 year old geek and she is, well, a very beautiful girl with a super computer in her head? Why would he try to jump to save Cameron being badly beaten up in the Derek's rescue scene? It is a human response as if for a human in need.

I am really looking forward to the 2nd season!
"
The topic of machines developng emotions (as well as humanoids losing them (remember Mr. Spock)) has been a mainstay of Sci-Fi writing for many years. It's the main reason that "Blade Runner" has stood the test of time, (more than 20 years), a touchstone event in the Sci-Fi movie world. Remember that first kiss between Dekker and what's her name (Sean Young's character)? Anyway, Summer Glau is sort of an enigma since I'm not sure she has any emotions in the first place. I guess that means she's doing her job and/or being typecast due to being in "Serenity". Certain actors are cast specifically for their "strangness", Crispin Glover immediately springs to mind. I'm impressed by Glau in the understanding of just how much hard work there is in the making of a world class ballet dancer. It's really nice to see the writers allowing her to showcase her abilities, and just how much that contributes to the character's and show's depth. There is also great potential in the prom sequence. The girl gets dressed up and in touch with her feminine side, then kicks the snot out of a dozen or so men twicew her size is also a mainstay of Sci-Fi, one I can't imagine getting tired of. It worked for both Buffys, and Jessica Alba (Dark Angel), and I can't even fathom it not working for Summer Glau. If they do a "prom episode", I may even rent a Tux to watch it in. Well, that's a bit much, but you get the idea.
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