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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
240. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 1:00 AM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 1:00 AM EDT
Well, at least Derek doesn't act like Larry David's character on "Curb Your Enthusiasm." That would be worse than having someone around who kills indiscriminately and hates machines!

He'd be out on the street in two seconds in his bathrobe, looking flummoxed asking plaintively, "what? what did I say??"

Sarah, John, and yes, even Cameron standing on the porch shaking their heads with disgusted looks on their faces and then going back inside and slamming the door.

LOL!
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saphireblueelf
saphireblueelf
241. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 3:48 AM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 3:48 AM EDT
"Perhaps this lends some creadence to the fact that perhaps Skynet rejected her because they couldnt "progam her correctly"...they dumped her out and John found and reprogrammed her.

She was a defective model but John made use of her and turned her good"
What f she was not defective at first but has been reprogrammed to many times. Like John gets her reprogrames her then the machines somehow get her back reprogram and send her back into the human camp, John sees that she has been reprogrammed so reprograms her again. What if it went on for a while back and forth that would mess with anything. (like a vcr tape that has been recorded on too many times, you could get voices or nosie form other recordings over top of what you are trying to watch.) She could be getting different parts of her reprograms combined and it is chaning her.
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dukejw
dukejw
242. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 4:03 AM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 4:03 AM EDT
"Perhaps this lends some creadence to the fact that perhaps Skynet rejected her because they couldnt "progam her correctly"...they dumped her out and John found and reprogrammed her.

She was a defective model but John made use of her and turned her good"
I have said this before John built the Cameron model !!! John used shelve parts [ look that one up] and parts he design himself. Skynet is not the only corporation that can build robots. John built a small army of Cameron models. When General Motors or Ford motor co builds a three door car, two doors on one side and a one doors on the other side--- trust me this happens, they destroy that car smash the hell out of it. Skynet would do the same and would have destroy the defected Cameron model. This is a RULE of manufacturing if the product is wrong destroy it. So it did not fall into emeny hands. Skynet did not build the Cameron model John did. This is so easy to see. What is the problem with you.
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dukejw
dukejw
243. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 4:10 AM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 4:10 AM EDT
"I have said this before John built the Cameron model !!! John used shelve parts [ look that one up] and parts he design himself. Skynet is not the only corporation that can build robots. John built a small army of Cameron models. When General Motors or Ford motor co builds a three door car, two doors on one side and a one doors on the other side--- trust me this happens, they destroy that car smash the hell out of it. Skynet would do the same and would have destroy the defected Cameron model. This is a RULE of manufacturing if the product is wrong destroy it. So it did not fall into emeny hands. Skynet did not build the Cameron model John did. This is so easy to see. What is the problem with you. "
Sorry I meant to say the Cameron third party liaison model that is what she is.
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T-1976
T-1976
244. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 5:34 PM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 5:34 PM EDT
But the question is....would John, even though he is very smart with computers, be able to reassemble a broken terminator, set up the basic program, program her to be good and do all of this during a time of war. IMHO, he would be too busy with his troops....not a lot of spare time I would think. Do you find this valuable?    
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
245. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 6:16 PM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 6:16 PM EDT
"But the question is....would John, even though he is very smart with computers, be able to reassemble a broken terminator, set up the basic program, program her to be good and do all of this during a time of war. IMHO, he would be too busy with his troops....not a lot of spare time I would think."
He doesn't get out much.
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dukejw
dukejw
246. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 8:38 PM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 8:38 PM EDT
"But the question is....would John, even though he is very smart with computers, be able to reassemble a broken terminator, set up the basic program, program her to be good and do all of this during a time of war. IMHO, he would be too busy with his troops....not a lot of spare time I would think."
John is not alone doing every thing by himself. Judgement day Skynet could not kill every human on earth. Only the big citys got nuked 30 to 40 percent of human lived threw JD. John the one with the experience dealing with terminators. John knows what to do he the general leading the people to fight and win.
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T100010
T100010
247. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 9:27 PM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 9:27 PM EDT
"John is not alone doing every thing by himself. Judgement day Skynet could not kill every human on earth. Only the big citys got nuked 30 to 40 percent of human lived threw JD. John the one with the experience dealing with terminators. John knows what to do he the general leading the people to fight and win. "
Ok may I ask what does all of this have to do the topic at hand?
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dukejw
dukejw
248. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 30 2008, 10:55 PM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 10:55 PM EDT
"Ok may I ask what does all of this have to do the topic at hand?"
Yes John could in a time of war.
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saphireblueelf
saphireblueelf
249. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 31 2008, 5:44 AM EDT | Post edited: May 31 2008, 5:44 AM EDT
"I have said this before John built the Cameron model !!! John used shelve parts [ look that one up] and parts he design himself. Skynet is not the only corporation that can build robots. John built a small army of Cameron models. When General Motors or Ford motor co builds a three door car, two doors on one side and a one doors on the other side--- trust me this happens, they destroy that car smash the hell out of it. Skynet would do the same and would have destroy the defected Cameron model. This is a RULE of manufacturing if the product is wrong destroy it. So it did not fall into emeny hands. Skynet did not build the Cameron model John did. This is so easy to see. What is the problem with you. "
It never states who built her just that she was built in that warehouse, One why would the humans allow John to have an entire warehouse to build machines with when all most likly lost someone due to the machines, they would need the space for human, it is not easily guarded from the machines. In general it dose not make since!
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saphireblueelf
saphireblueelf
250. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 31 2008, 5:45 AM EDT | Post edited: May 31 2008, 5:45 AM EDT
"Ok may I ask what does all of this have to do the topic at hand?"
Your right this thread is about Derek and Cameron and their history together, not about who or what made Cameron!!
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T100010
T100010
251. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
May 31 2008, 8:38 AM EDT | Post edited: May 31 2008, 8:38 AM EDT
Thank you Saphire! It nice to know i'm not alone can we please go back to what is
the connection between Derek and Cameron!
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mjn5
252. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
Jun 1 2008, 3:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 3:16 AM EDT
"Thank you Saphire! It nice to know i'm not alone can we please go back to what is
the connection between Derek and Cameron!"
Where / what Cameron is does have relevance to the relationship between Derek and Cameron. The only times that they were related was in the basement (music) and headquarters (when Derek learned she was on the resistance side). Beyond that, there is no indication that there was anything going on. But when Cameron and Derek were in the basement, was she an enemy or a "friend" who was playing an enemy?

She has and does lie to John. She admitted this, and we saw this with the chip. But was she lying to the terminators in that basement or something else.
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dukejw
dukejw
253. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
Jun 1 2008, 12:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 12:19 PM EDT
"Where / what Cameron is does have relevance to the relationship between Derek and Cameron. The only times that they were related was in the basement (music) and headquarters (when Derek learned she was on the resistance side). Beyond that, there is no indication that there was anything going on. But when Cameron and Derek were in the basement, was she an enemy or a "friend" who was playing an enemy?

She has and does lie to John. She admitted this, and we saw this with the chip. But was she lying to the terminators in that basement or something else."
Well said, I am talk about the connection. Thank You mjn5.
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TeamConnor
TeamConnor
254. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
Jun 1 2008, 4:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 4:53 PM EDT
ummmmmmmmm i def think that cam and john do have something there, and that it will come out during the second season.

ive been reading some interviews from other websites with summer and dekker, and they pretty much give the story away almost eveyrtime. saying that john gets mad at hot cameron b/c he doestn want to come to terms that he is still attracted to her, and cameron somehow loves john in her pwn way and blah blah blah.

Im turning this into a a discussion post.
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T-1976
T-1976
255. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
Jun 1 2008, 5:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 5:22 PM EDT
"Where / what Cameron is does have relevance to the relationship between Derek and Cameron. The only times that they were related was in the basement (music) and headquarters (when Derek learned she was on the resistance side). Beyond that, there is no indication that there was anything going on. But when Cameron and Derek were in the basement, was she an enemy or a "friend" who was playing an enemy?

She has and does lie to John. She admitted this, and we saw this with the chip. But was she lying to the terminators in that basement or something else."
And knowing where Cameron came from will also help us understand why Derek has so much anamosity towards her.

Was she built for good, or was she built for bad?

It all ties in if you think about it
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T100010
T100010
256. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
Jun 1 2008, 6:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 6:32 PM EDT
"And knowing where Cameron came from will also help us understand why Derek has so much anamosity towards her.

Was she built for good, or was she built for bad?

It all ties in if you think about it"
Ok no problem now I get it!
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KrelleK
257. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
Jun 1 2008, 7:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 7:13 PM EDT
well i am not sure If she was built by parts that skynet could not use, or whatever, but i kinda like the idea of her being a child of skynet, beeing rebelious, through a little reprogramming, I guess it because i would like to see her being caught by the Resistance, either by "saving" a girl from deathcamps(Cam before repro, dirty, beaten, not much clothing being either pushed/dragged maybe by the hair by some T-models Endoes, or a T600´s screaming for help, kicking, maybe even crying close by a, for skynet intel, possible Res-camp, knowing they migth try to save her. when they have, they take her in, and then a little later she sees they are about bring in the dogs for a check up of the liberated people, she maybe first begins to scream up about she was scared(attacked at young age)by dogs but the the tech com soldiers are relentless and they keep getting closer, and she until the last moment acts really scared, but then the dogs get her on there nose, she change all by a milli sec, saying something like skynet will win in the end, resistance is futile or something like that and is about to the weapon of one soldier, but another behind by mere luck is quick enough emp/electrocute her before she has caused any deaths, maybe even have some Tech Com soldier say something like, We had just saved this girl, among others, she was so believable, memories like an attack from dogs in an apparent past, and yet she showed up to be a little bad girl made by Skynet to Gen. Connor. Do you find this valuable?    
T100010
T100010
258. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
Jun 1 2008, 8:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 1 2008, 8:06 PM EDT
"well i am not sure If she was built by parts that skynet could not use, or whatever, but i kinda like the idea of her being a child of skynet, beeing rebelious, through a little reprogramming, I guess it because i would like to see her being caught by the Resistance, either by "saving" a girl from deathcamps(Cam before repro, dirty, beaten, not much clothing being either pushed/dragged maybe by the hair by some T-models Endoes, or a T600´s screaming for help, kicking, maybe even crying close by a, for skynet intel, possible Res-camp, knowing they migth try to save her. when they have, they take her in, and then a little later she sees they are about bring in the dogs for a check up of the liberated people, she maybe first begins to scream up about she was scared(attacked at young age)by dogs but the the tech com soldiers are relentless and they keep getting closer, and she until the last moment acts really scared, but then the dogs get her on there nose, she change all by a milli sec, saying something like skynet will win in the end, resistance is futile or something like that and is about to the weapon of one soldier, but another behind by mere luck is quick enough emp/electrocute her before she has caused any deaths, maybe even have some Tech Com soldier say something like, We had just saved this girl, among others, she was so believable, memories like an attack from dogs in an apparent past, and yet she showed up to be a little bad girl made by Skynet to Gen. Connor. "
Sounds good to me!
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saphireblueelf
saphireblueelf
259. RE: What do you think the connection is between Derek and Cameron?
Jun 2 2008, 12:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 12:22 PM EDT
"Sounds good to me!"
Sounds like that could really work, skynet would want ans inside "man" and allows her to get caught for that pirpose, but then John gets her and reprograms her.
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