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Papi123 |
80. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 4:30 AM EDT
we actually do not know what happened to Enriques nephew - his crew was killed - we did not see what happened to him - His nephew would make a good addition to the show - he also knows his way around gov computers - he had to break in to get them papers
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81. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 5:54 AM EDT
I think when Cameron asked, "Do I need to kill you now?" it refered back to the dialog just before Chola knocked on the Connor's garage door. Sarah had just stated, "We can't stay here John; not while he's out there." (Referring to Sarkissian.) They had two reasons to find Sarkissian--to obtain the Turk and to eliminate him as a threat to staying in their home. Cameron had previously killed Enrique because he was a threat, and Derek had just killed Sarkissian. So now Chola, who knew their location, could also be a threat. The fact that they stayed in their home after Sarkissian was dead meant they felt they were now beyond that risk. (The fake Sarkissian that is...). And I don't think Chola is a terminator. Granted, she shows little or no emotion, but many other more plausible reasons have already been offered to explain this. 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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T8xx |
82. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 9:50 AM EDT
"I think when Cameron asked, "Do I need to kill you now?" it refered back to the dialog just before Chola knocked on the Connor's garage door. Sarah had just stated, "We can't stay here John; not while he's out there." (Referring to Sarkissian.) They had two reasons to find Sarkissian--to obtain the Turk and to eliminate him as a threat to staying in their home. Cameron had previously killed Enrique because he was a threat, and Derek had just killed Sarkissian. So now Chola, who knew their location, could also be a threat. The fact that they stayed in their home after Sarkissian was dead meant they felt they were now beyond that risk. (The fake Sarkissian that is...).Yes,it's true what you say!!The possibilities are equally distributed!! Maybe Chola is a terminator,maybe she's a resistance fighter or maybe she's just some other girl, even though she's quiet and emotionless, trying to help them out somehow just because!!Who knows that? :) Like i said,they're just possibilities!!And yes,i agree with you about the "plausible reasons" that "have already been offered to explain this"!! We have been thrown these possibilities based on her behavior in the series (mostly),but i think we will know that very soon,when the second season roles out before our eyeballs!! :) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Papi123 |
83. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 12:29 PM EDT
what does she know? 1 sarah is a secret - worked w family as a resistance fighter, drug runner or whatever 2 Sari killed crew 3 Connors killed Sari 4 connors killed guy who killed crew - dead guy in trunk She knows way too much about dead people and who got them dead. That is a problem - she is a mission risk - If connors stay put - they can not have her walking around - Is Cameron learning - in past T killed everyone to reduce mission risk - Cameron now sees that an increase body count does not necessary reduce mission risk? 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
Chi3000 |
84. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 1:31 PM EDT
"Haha....im talking FIRST APPEARANCE in January http://sarahconnor.wetpaint.com/thread/1134968/The+mexican+gang+girl We will convert u zeno...lol But whether she is or isnt. I do feel she is important. Most blew off her relevance. At least now there seems to be more to her. 10 out of 10 found this valuable. Do you? |
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85. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 1:47 PM EDT
she is very mysterious girl,i dont think she is a Machine ! we see in season 2,i like to see her in some Romance and it finish badly and reveal her real face ! will be Fun !i think she can help the Connors !! hope she speak !!!!!!!! 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
T-1976 |
86. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 5:36 PM EDT
What if she is a hybrid....half terminator, half human? Ridiculous? Perhaps, but it might be true 3 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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T8xx |
87. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 9:43 PM EDT
"What if she is a hybrid....half terminator, half human?Why not? According to some things i have been reading about terminators, there is one type that we can call a hybrid!! A human with some bionic/robotic applications attached to his body ("in the right places",so it says)!!According to the documents,this hybrid is educated by skynet using holographic toys,etc and when it reaches 4 years old he is given some kind of injection to accelerate his growth until he reaches mature state!!Can develop feelings,but these are very limited,due to the chip attached to his brain!! Which is quite convenient for skynet,since these infiltrators are not detected by dogs!!What other perfect assassin may skynet have amongst infiltration units? 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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88. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 10:04 PM EDT
The link to the terminator i described above...http://sarahconnor.wetpaint.com/page/Terminator+Glossary Look for the I-950!! :) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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89. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 23 2008, 10:30 PM EDT
And the limited emotions displayed by Chola could be the reason why...she's underdeveloped.
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90. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 24 2008, 6:32 AM EDT
"what does she know?Good point, she could be learning. It will be interesting to see if a growing theme of TSCC is how Cameron learns to become more human. Or it could simply be like a "cost/benefit" analysis. I think if Cameron only saw Chola as a threat she would have killed her. She has proven that already with Enrique. But terminators evidently weigh a threat to their mission against potential usefulness. Remember Cromartie didn't kill Agent Ellison. Most likely, because he believed Ellison could aid his own mission, by continuing to look for Sarah and John. So Cameron probably saw Chola as useful too. Not sure how, but I assume it is for something more important than helping with makeup. 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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91. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 24 2008, 5:42 PM EDT
"Good point, she could be learning. It will be interesting to see if a growing theme of TSCC is how Cameron learns to become more human. Or it could simply be like a "cost/benefit" analysis. I think if Cameron only saw Chola as a threat she would have killed her. She has proven that already with Enrique. But terminators evidently weigh a threat to their mission against potential usefulness. Remember Cromartie didn't kill Agent Ellison. Most likely, because he believed Ellison could aid his own mission, by continuing to look for Sarah and John. So Cameron probably saw Chola as useful too. Not sure how, but I assume it is for something more important than helping with makeup. "Well,assuming that this "Sari" is Sarkissian...it was NOT the Connors who killed him,but Derek Reese,because Sarkisian posed himself a threat to the Connors,mainly John!! Do you remember the episode when Sarkissian (the fake one) dragged John with a gun pointed to John himself?Sarah didn't shoot him!!It was her son who had a gun pointed to the head,whom the fake Sarkisian was serving as shield!!So Derek grabbed the little kid in the episode as a decoy in order for him to let John go!!Instead he shot Sarkissian in the head!! As for the dead guy in trunk...You may be right,except for one thing...It was Cameron who killed him and not the Connors!! Chola appears after they close the door to the garage,after Cameron simulated the guy's voice on the phone talking to Sarkissian (the fake one),covered in blood!!Supposing this blood would be from whosoever follwed them (if you remember,someone was passing by watching them and in that moment stops the car)!!Chola appears in that very moment when she goes to the Connors!! As for till now i didn't see Chola as a mission risk,since she's helping them from time to time in the series,after Enrique is killed by Cameron and not Sarah!!Cameron killed those because they posed a threat both to the mission and the Connors!! Yes,i would say Cameron is learning!!And it's not Cameron who sees that an increase body count is unnecessary,but Sarah!!Afterall,it IS Sarah who urges Cameron NOT to kill!!See the episode where both Dimitri and his sister die!!Sarah specifically tells Cameron "no killings"!! Chola came around for some reason,though...perhaps to help them in some perilous times!!Who knows? But is she a terminator or not?Perhaps...but not like the ones we have seen!!Maybe a new model (the mencioned hybrid I-950)? 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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92. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 25 2008, 12:40 AM EDT
"Chola means CHild Of Latino Americans. In the streets of LA this means a Girl Latino. Could she be a terminator only if you have never seen death on a daily basis. The lack of emotion is a way to keep the sharks from eating you. If they know you are vulnerable then they will try to kill you. This does not mean that she has no emotions just that she has seen too much death. The area in which she lives tends to keep one from showing too many emotions. Chola is there to provide support to the strongest if they need it and when they need it. She is a child of the streets and will continue to live and die there with nothing more than pack loyalty keeping her going in the end. 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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93. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 26 2008, 11:44 AM EDT
"Chola mysteriously shows up, sans emotion, to drive John and Cameron back home. How does Chola fit into the storyline? Is she another Terminator?I think she might be a Resistance fighter sent back from the future, and she was assigned a task to find them and this would also appy if she were a terminator 5 out of 6 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Papi123 |
94. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 28 2008, 8:43 AM EDT
"Chola means CHild Of Latino Americans. In the streets of LA this means a Girl Latino. ""Thank you for explaining" Chola is border Mexican. Its closes American English translation is the english slang "Dude" , since it spanish it would have an "a" at the end to show its female. Cholo is male version which was always used. Chola did not exist until recently. Cholo connotes "gangsta" 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
LaLongeCarabine |
95. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 28 2008, 11:32 AM EDT
OK, cracking knuckles.Chola is not a Terminator! Not a hybrid, or fullbrid, she's 100% human. 1. A terminator would not stand by and watch two strangers inter it's house. 2. A terminator would not hide like Chola did when Australian and Asian dude enter the house. 3. The blood on her shirt. 4. She goes to the Conners for help and drives them to Sarkissian and then waits in the car, I doubt a Terminator would just wait and sit, and why would she need help? 5. Cameron can ID other terminators and surely would have known right away that Chola wasn't human. 6. Why would Cameron ask another Terminator if she needed to kill her. At any rate I hope she's back of next season and we get some resolution on this. JLK 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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96. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 28 2008, 12:12 PM EDT
"OK, cracking knuckles.I do not think that Chola is a Terminator, however takhe opposite position means learning. 1) It depends strongly on her mission. Her mission could be to stay calm, until some special events (yet unknown to us) happen. Or maybe she assures that some events happen and only starts moving, when certain aspects do not happen. 2) See 1) 3) The blood says nothing. A could be a trick to make her seem human. It could be, that she searched the dead for something, like e.g. addresses, weapons, what ever. 4) See 1) 5) It is not shown that Cameron can do that. She checked for Cromarties body ratios, because she knew them a priori. It is not clear that she can do the same to others as well. And it was clear that Carter T-888 was a T, because he was too strong for a human. It is unknown whether or not Cameron can do some sort of "X-raying" as Vick T-888 did. Furthermore, it is not clear what Vick T-888 actually did. It is possible, that he did only some sort of image extrapolation. 6) Yes, why? Do you find this valuable? |
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97. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 28 2008, 2:42 PM EDT
she's not a terminator...... why didn't she just beat those guys that invaded what's his face's house to ground meat? she was hiding behind a car looking scared (at least concerned). if she was a terminator, she could just beat them into pulp & stuff them into a trunk like a real terminator would they wouldn't last more than 2 seconds against a terminator....... IF (a very super-sized IF) she's from the future, she's more likely to be a resistance fighter than a terminator. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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98. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 28 2008, 5:38 PM EDT
A terminator does not intervene if their mission does not require it. Therefore, the premise that she isnt one just because she didnt protect the guys at the house is rather inconclusive, IMHO.I'm not saying she IS a terminator, im just making a point. IF she is one, again not saying she is..there may have been a reason that she allowed them to be killed. If it was a part of a mission parameter. Remember Cameron and her ballet teacher? Sure she could have kicked the tail ends of the people that killed her and her brother, but she didnt because that wasnt her mission. Do you find this valuable? |
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99. RE: How does Chola fit into the story and is she another Terminator?
Apr 28 2008, 6:14 PM EDT
"A terminator does not intervene if their mission does not require it. Therefore, the premise that she isnt one just because she didnt protect the guys at the house is rather inconclusive, IMHO.Fine as far as it goes but it doesn't make sense. If Chola is a Terminator and she was "placed" with just to watch them die? Also what about the look of fear on her face as she backs up. Also the blood tells alot. If she searched the bodies she would have spots not one huge blob. Again I realize we're talking about TV where people get shot and the very next day they're using that hand. You diffently give me something to think about. Also due to the first two meetings with the Conners she had all she needed to act agaist them, after all if she's a Terminator sent back to kill John or help the Truk become Skynet, I think that elimanating the Conners first thing. Chola also touched Cameron if she can't see a Terminator at distance she must be able to do so my touch. Chola may have a soft touch but you can't hide mass or her strength. Do you find this valuable? |
