"f they could change the future and then negate their own existence-then they would never exist and that present would never take place for them to have it happen and without them being there, they could not alter the past to influence the future and then the future would proceed on it's own original course? would that be what would eventually happen, a time loop, with the future altered by Skynet's birth being stopped and started again and again?
Perhaps, since Skynet seems to be a major event for the future it is one of the 'set' events that must happen, influencing events even further in the future which we do not even know about yet? Like, Imagine what would have happened if the Meteor that struck the earth 65 million years ago had not hit? We might be looking in the mirror now at scaly faces and thinking that the frog in the pond nearby is hot if that had not happened. I'm thinking that some things have to occur, even if we do not want them to. "

"I was proposing that the mere fact of you leaving any point in the timeline completely severs you from the timeline so when you renter the time line you are a completely independent entity divorced of any change that might happen to your previous self, think of it as being reborn fully formed into the past. And now that you are no longer tied to the future you left, you are free to make changes which won’t affect your present self or your memories (so no time loop)
The other time travel you mention can best be illustrated by the film “The Time Machine” by H G Wells (2nd film) In it ,I think it was his fiancée died and no matter how many times he went back to “save” her she still died anyway if only in different ways.
What I am trying to do is explain how time travel works in the Terminator universe not the Back to the Future universe not the time machine universe or any other book or film that uses time travel.
Time travel is plot device invented by writers to suit their own particular stories thus they have their own set of rules, tying to apply one from a particular book or film to another isn’t going to work!"

"Then all of my talk including yours is going to get no where if you say the therory is based on the writters. Because a lot of the ideas of time travel are based on Enstiens Relitivity and the new theory of string theory. You're creating a utter paradox by talking about this in this this way!

So basicly your not basing anything on any other movie so we're are making up new theorys just for the sake of getting more confused.

I liked it when we knew what we were talking about. = ("

"Yes I agree with you totally. When it comes to changing the future. I think they need to do one of two things.

1- Prevent skynet from being built and have a ending simular to that of Terminator-2: Judement Day's alternate ending when Sarah Connor is Chronicleing her life in a tape recorder.

2-Skynet get's delayed so much. That Technology becomes advanced enough for Skynet to become human/humble/emtional. Thus resulting in peace.

So far though we know skynet hasn't been prevent. But we do know it has been delayed. And Andy Good said that the first turk was like a teenager while the secound a precousous child. So we do know that skynet has changed. Sarah Connor even asked if the Turk is more human. In the episode that Andy Good get's murdered by Derek Reese."

"Thanks for your support and opinions with regard to my ideas. I'm always open to ideas that continue mine. But I like the idea that the world co-existing with Humans. Because in a way that's what people did in the Robot series by Isaac Asimov. Yet, the difference is that the terminators are not controled by the Three laws. They control themselves. But, I think if the robots/Terminators were able to interact with humans with out automaticly killing them. And to first to try to understand humans. I'm sure one way or another the future could be changed as a result and Skynet could be taught compassion."

"How do terminators become better than us if we childish, inane people are their basic programmers?"

"yes u right defenitively !!!!!!"

"If skynet is prevented from being created than John Connor will never exist either. Without the war why or how will Kyle be sent back to create him?"

"Could this show be result of Time Travel and Parrallel Dimensions?"