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postal999
80. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 2:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 2:11 PM EDT
" I think we all are sometimes over analyzing this stuff. LOL!!"
Truest statement of them all......!
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
81. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 3:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 3:40 PM EDT
"Another possibility. It would also drive a type of jealousy too, that John now has a copy of "Derek's girl" he used to know and fell for and John and Cameron (her double) are getting cozy.

Kind of a stretch, but interesting at the same time. I think we all are sometimes over analyzing this stuff. LOL!!"
I love the Ideas here. I just trying to imply that there has to be some person that Skynet may have based her model after.
So now we had the idea that it could of been Johns Origianal wife Cameron she was based on.
Or maybe a past love of Derek.
I like the ideas.
Do you guys think that skynet may send back another Terminator that looks exactly like Cameron too. But is a bad one. Sort of like having two Arnolds. One good one bad. Just getting some ideas flowing.
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T-1976
T-1976
82. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 5:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 5:43 PM EDT
"Another possibility. It would also drive a type of jealousy too, that John now has a copy of "Derek's girl" he used to know and fell for and John and Cameron (her double) are getting cozy.

Kind of a stretch, but interesting at the same time. I think we all are sometimes over analyzing this stuff. LOL!!"
*sings* "I wish that I had Jessie's girl!!!...I wish that I had Jessie's girl!!!*

LMAO ^_^

*ahem*

Yes, thats true Cuckoo...but its fun to do :P

Perhaps Cameron is just a "person" all her own, not based off any real person. She is a different model after all. Just a thought
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T100010
T100010
83. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 7:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 7:23 PM EDT
"*sings* "I wish that I had Jessie's girl!!!...I wish that I had Jessie's girl!!!*

LMAO ^_^

*ahem*

Yes, thats true Cuckoo...but its fun to do :P

Perhaps Cameron is just a "person" all her own, not based off any real person. She is a different model after all. Just a thought"
Jessie's girl ROFL!!!!!!!!!
How about this one what if skynet sent some humans back that have some boinc's in them you know like hybids half mahcine half human to kill not john nor sara or even derek but to
get rid of cameron? Yes i know its outthere but think about it she won't be able to identify them becouse there not all mahcines plus they don't come alone they come in a team of 4.
It would be a good chanllge for cameron don't you'll thing so?????????????
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T100010
T100010
84. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 7:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 7:27 PM EDT
It would be kind of like the terminators vs the univarsol soildgers thats one way to desicrbe it. Do you find this valuable?    
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
85. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 8:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 8:10 PM EDT
It's very true that Cameron can have a situation come up where there's more than she alone can handle. That's why no one can do this alone, not even a Terminator. John and Sarah (and hopefully Derek, and then Agent Ellison and Charlie) have to step up and deliver big time as well, especially since the resistance fighters got slaughtered.

United as a team (and in another respect, a family) they stand.
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T-1976
T-1976
86. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 8:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 8:36 PM EDT
"It's very true that Cameron can have a situation come up where there's more than she alone can handle. That's why no one can do this alone, not even a Terminator. John and Sarah (and hopefully Derek, and then Agent Ellison and Charlie) have to step up and deliver big time as well, especially since the resistance fighters got slaughtered.

United as a team (and in another respect, a family) they stand. "
Teamwork!! :)

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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
87. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 8:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 8:45 PM EDT
"Teamwork!! :)

"
How true that is in life.. not just in this fantasy world of Terminators.
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T100010
T100010
88. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 9:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 9:18 PM EDT
"How true that is in life.. not just in this fantasy world of Terminators."
Good one! there's no ''I'' in ''TEAM''!
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postal999
89. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 12 2008, 11:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 12 2008, 11:49 PM EDT
"United as a team (and in another respect, a family) they stand. "
Exactly true, need a team!!!
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T100010
T100010
90. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 12:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 12:24 AM EDT
I was also thinking that those hybids tageting cameron maybe she gets in to a real bad fight with them in one of those cameron vs all 4 of them battles almost like what happen in superman returns when he lands on that place where the kroptonight was at and luther and his goons work him over. Yes i hate putting her in this but think about like in T2 when Arnold and the T-1000 fight in the steel meel to really have her missed up that bad plus in ever movie i 've seen is always a good idea to see the hero hurt so then when he/she get back up you now its going be payback time. Also maybe this might be a good moment for derek or john like maybe derek can finally take his head out of has ASS and finally do something right for cameron like maybe save cameron from those hybids? Or john seeing cameron being walluped like that knowing how he feels about her he might pick up a weapon and save her. Oh did i forget to mention that these hybids are not interstuckable yes they have a terminator stringht but can not take a shot in the head that would be why they travel in a team of 4 they leader in commend would be a women just throught i would throw that in there. So tell what do you think? Opps sorry if i got off the topic. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
91. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 12:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 12:42 AM EDT
"I was also thinking that those hybids tageting cameron maybe she gets in to a real bad fight with them in one of those cameron vs all 4 of them battles almost like what happen in superman returns when he lands on that place where the kroptonight was at and luther and his goons work him over. Yes i hate putting her in this but think about like in T2 when Arnold and the T-1000 fight in the steel meel to really have her missed up that bad plus in ever movie i 've seen is always a good idea to see the hero hurt so then when he/she get back up you now its going be payback time. Also maybe this might be a good moment for derek or john like maybe derek can finally take his head out of has ASS and finally do something right for cameron like maybe save cameron from those hybids? Or john seeing cameron being walluped like that knowing how he feels about her he might pick up a weapon and save her. Oh did i forget to mention that these hybids are not interstuckable yes they have a terminator stringht but can not take a shot in the head that would be why they travel in a team of 4 they leader in commend would be a women just throught i would throw that in there. So tell what do you think? Opps sorry if i got off the topic."
So do you think Cameron could be based on somkind of person?

Or maybe since you think hybrid. Maybe she has parts that belong to a actuall person who look like Cameron. Sort of like Robo-Cop but much more highly advanced. Maybe even like General Greivous from Star Wars Episode III
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T100010
T100010
92. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 1:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 1:21 AM EDT
"So do you think Cameron could be based on somkind of person?

Or maybe since you think hybrid. Maybe she has parts that belong to a actuall person who look like Cameron. Sort of like Robo-Cop but much more highly advanced. Maybe even like General Greivous from Star Wars Episode III"
Well kaleb i think maybe her skin is is of a real person kind of like the first Hellriser
movie. I was actually thinking of Univarsol Soldger vs termintor type of thing that these hybids where at one point was restistance fighters but like in ever war movie i've seen you always have one soldger who just loses it you the type that have spent to munch time in the jungle in other words they go APE SHIT! So maybe there where some like that the future john had no choice but to put them down since skynet figures john is reprogreming there machines maybe skynet decides to re animate
those soldgers? Just some creazy idea i had so tell me what you'll think of that????? As for cameron i believe that might be why derek might have some hate
towards maybe her apperince could be a old girlfrined from when he was in school
maybe some girl he ment when he joined the resitance? That could also explain why he was crying when he saw her dancing?
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
93. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 1:37 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 1:37 AM EDT
"That could also explain why he was crying when he saw her dancing?"
I have to definately agree with this part. I think that idea is good.
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
94. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 1:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 1:44 AM EDT
Because my main point is that Cameron must be based on some human wheather it has to do with a character in the show or not will be decided by the Writers. But hey lets keep guessing. Do you find this valuable?    
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
95. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 1:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 1:58 AM EDT
"Because my main point is that Cameron must be based on some human wheather it has to do with a character in the show or not will be decided by the Writers. But hey lets keep guessing."
You really may be on to something, but it's hard to say what Josh and the writing staff are plotting (or have plotted) out.

She does eat, though maybe just for show, but that means she has a much fancier, humaniod design than just skin and muscle over an endoskeleton as before. That also means, again, that she may be capable of crying.

Speaking of crying, I think perhaps Derek was torn... it was a moment of surprise and beauty, but also fear (of her specifically, or the fact that Sarah's predictions were coming true and machines were encroaching on what was man's claim to superiority). The music was also the same as in the basement, so we still have many puzzle pieces to fit together.
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T100010
T100010
96. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 10:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 10:10 AM EDT
"You really may be on to something, but it's hard to say what Josh and the writing staff are plotting (or have plotted) out.

She does eat, though maybe just for show, but that means she has a much fancier, humaniod design than just skin and muscle over an endoskeleton as before. That also means, again, that she may be capable of crying.

Speaking of crying, I think perhaps Derek was torn... it was a moment of surprise and beauty, but also fear (of her specifically, or the fact that Sarah's predictions were coming true and machines were encroaching on what was man's claim to superiority). The music was also the same as in the basement, so we still have many puzzle pieces to fit together. "
Please i hope the word comes out soon about season 2! I know judging by the interviews i've seen of the cast they can't wait to go back to work. Yep you have a point there cuckoo its as whole back part of the puzzle that i can't wait to it all comes together and when it does i have a feeling it will be shocking.
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SusanWillow
SusanWillow
97. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 4:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 4:13 PM EDT
As long as we humans keep programming computers to kill there will always be a skynet. Computers will keep advancing. We can't stop that. Not without a cataclysmic event that wipes out all modern technology. COmputers are like children. If you teach it hate then all it will be able to create is hate. If you teach a child about love and compassion then it can't possibly understand why anyone would cause hate. Its basic childrens psycology. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
98. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 13 2008, 9:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 13 2008, 9:04 PM EDT
"You really may be on to something, but it's hard to say what Josh and the writing staff are plotting (or have plotted) out.

She does eat, though maybe just for show, but that means she has a much fancier, humaniod design than just skin and muscle over an endoskeleton as before. That also means, again, that she may be capable of crying.

Speaking of crying, I think perhaps Derek was torn... it was a moment of surprise and beauty, but also fear (of her specifically, or the fact that Sarah's predictions were coming true and machines were encroaching on what was man's claim to superiority). The music was also the same as in the basement, so we still have many puzzle pieces to fit together. "
When you go to the official website you see Camerons inners. She actually has a human looking spine even though it's made of metal. Along with that her inners show that she may have components that represent various human parts. But in essence it's all mechianical. But yes I hope we discover what kind of human they base Cameron on. And wheather or not John Modified a lot or any of her origianal system fuctions. We will just have to wait and see.
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Avenger_Reloaded
Avenger_Reloaded
99. RE: Cameron & Love-- the key to stopping Skynet?
Apr 14 2008, 3:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 14 2008, 3:18 AM EDT
I have to tell you I have read this thread with a mixture of amusement and amazement.
Regarding the start of this thread, the concept of Cameron going to Skynet with all it's amassed knowledge of her humanity.and just giving it a big hug and saying all you need is love to solve the world's problems is a bit of a stretch. That or she uses this knowledge to "Captain Kirk" the machine into killing itself in a fit of human logic.
I sincerely doubt the Future John, would purposefully send this terminator, with the intent of saving his mom and still purposely program in that Cameron would have to be the world's most intricate love doll for his 16 year old self in the past. Sounds kind of pervy if you ask me. I understand this is Fox TV but the producers of the show don't strike me as the type to sell to studio execs that John Connor will be the future Bud Bundy.
Moving on, we know for a fact that in the films that the Arnold terminators were manufactured. There was definetly more than one of him as we've seen. Otherwise there wouldn't have been three films with him as three different Arnold machines. Maybe there's a former Ford plant hammering them out.
More in next post.

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