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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
20. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 12:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 12:48 AM EDT
"A noble death isn’t what I see in store for Cameron, I believe we’ll find out that it was Cameron in the basement of episode 6 and she got there as a result of trying to fulfil her orders to prevent JD and failed!
So in the future she is like a third power with skynet on one side and John on the other, but she is still trying to fulfil her orders by manipulating events in order to bring about a change in a way john would want but defiantly wouldn’t approve, so she is independent of future John but still helping him without his knowledge."
Wow we are starting to make this a discussion about time travel too.
Hey everyone if you wish to talk about Time Travel. go here.

http://sarahconnor.wetpaint.com/thread/1317858/THE+FUTURE+HAS+BEEN+CHANGED%21%21%21%21

Now if you want to discuss Cameron and John stay here and Cont. But don't talk to much paradox. This is starting to get crazy (i.e. I know my name says Krazy but this is starting to get out of hand. No offence people.)
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john121984
john121984
21. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 3:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 3:47 PM EDT
Remember in t2 John had a hard time letting Arnold go. It was more Arnolds choice to go. 5  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    

SilentHer0
22. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 4:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 4:33 PM EDT
"You have a valid point, but if Skynet has sent back a variety of bad Terminators to the past, then one more "good" one (who actually is armed with a "humanity" weapon against Skynet) floating around won't make any difference. They know how to live off the grid anyway.

John still needs protection... as well as friendship and love. "
What about, what Cameron said in Dungeons and Dragons, "Sometimes they go bad, no one knows why...", even if she lived off the grid, she could potentially revert back to being evil, "PRO SKYNET" mode. Having terminators in the past is always risky, good or bad.
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SilentHer0
23. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 4:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 4:36 PM EDT
Another question I've been having....What is Cameron's origin? She's obviously made in the future or is she? 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
john121984
john121984
24. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 5:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 5:21 PM EDT
I hope she does not have to die in the end.I would not like to see it end like that 4  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
T-1976
T-1976
25. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 5:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 5:36 PM EDT
I dont think Cameron will die (or the correct term is "terminate") at the end of the series...at least I hope she wont be. It would be a better ending to see her finally get her "humanity"

Kinda like at the end of The Wizard of Oz when the characters got their respective "rewards"...though it was revealed that they had it in themselves all along. :)
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Finney23
26. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 7:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 7:11 PM EDT
I think that cameron is more to john then just a protector but we will have to find out in season 2 what lies beneath for John and Cameron !!!!!! 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
27. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 7:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 7:14 PM EDT
"I dont think Cameron will die (or the correct term is "terminate") at the end of the series...at least I hope she wont be. It would be a better ending to see her finally get her "humanity"

Kinda like at the end of The Wizard of Oz when the characters got their respective "rewards"...though it was revealed that they had it in themselves all along. :)"
That would be an excellent way to complete the metaphor of the Tin-Man! er, excuse me! Tin-Miss!

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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
28. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 7:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 7:17 PM EDT
"Another question I've been having....What is Cameron's origin? She's obviously made in the future or is she?"
She would have had to have been built in the future. She was brought on line at the bunker they chased the Coltan truck to.

Sounds like, from what Cameron let slip, she may have evil copies around if she was mass produced by Skynet. Perhaps that's what Derek came up against in the bunker.
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
29. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 7:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 7:19 PM EDT
"She would have had to have been built in the future. She was brought on line at the bunker they chased the Coltan truck to.

Sounds like, from what Cameron let slip, she may have evil copies around if she was mass produced by Skynet. Perhaps that's what Derek came up against in the bunker. "
bunker basement, I should add.
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Michelle67D
Michelle67D
30. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 7:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 7:24 PM EDT
"I dont think Cameron will die (or the correct term is "terminate") at the end of the series...at least I hope she wont be. It would be a better ending to see her finally get her "humanity"

Kinda like at the end of The Wizard of Oz when the characters got their respective "rewards"...though it was revealed that they had it in themselves all along. :)"
Yeh the Wizard of Oz references are really piling up. They not only call themselves Baum but John actually met Cameron in Kansas.

Keeping Cameron at the end of the series works for me. As long as John can keep her from falling into the hands of someone that could reverse engineer her everything should be fine.

But with all the terminators coming back she may not be the only one left around even if they do manage to stop skynet. Skynet could just pop up somewhere else.

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T-1976
T-1976
31. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 8:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 8:33 PM EDT
"That would be an excellent way to complete the metaphor of the Tin-Man! er, excuse me! Tin-Miss!

"
Indeed!

And she will finally get her "heart" :D

(metaphors abound)
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Bearsrule18
32. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 6 2008, 8:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 6 2008, 8:59 PM EDT
"Yeh the Wizard of Oz references are really piling up. They not only call themselves Baum but John actually met Cameron in Kansas.

Keeping Cameron at the end of the series works for me. As long as John can keep her from falling into the hands of someone that could reverse engineer her everything should be fine.

But with all the terminators coming back she may not be the only one left around even if they do manage to stop skynet. Skynet could just pop up somewhere else.

"
John met her in New Mexico, they just say they're from kansas in skool, which i bet is a nod to wizard of oz neway
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Michelle67D
Michelle67D
33. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 7 2008, 10:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2008, 10:00 AM EDT
"John met her in New Mexico, they just say they're from kansas in skool, which i bet is a nod to wizard of oz neway"
Your right and it does work out that way anyway.
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john121984
john121984
34. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 7 2008, 7:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2008, 7:18 PM EDT
What if she went back not because she was programmed to but because she chose to and she is just following Johns orders? Maybe she is protecting John not because she is programmed to but because she wants to. 6  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
john121984
john121984
35. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 7 2008, 7:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2008, 7:25 PM EDT
It does seem like when Cameron is alone with John she tries to act more human and when other people are around she acts more like a terminator. 7  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
36. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 7 2008, 7:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2008, 7:27 PM EDT
"It does seem like when Cameron is alone with John she tries to act more human and when other people are around she acts more like a terminator."
Yes I did notice that. She may have more backround with John Connor. So she may act a certain depending on the person she's around.
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T-1976
T-1976
37. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 7 2008, 8:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2008, 8:16 PM EDT
"It does seem like when Cameron is alone with John she tries to act more human and when other people are around she acts more like a terminator."
She's also more confortable around John because she has known him so long...and probably because he programmed her, she feels like he's her "master". NOT in a slave way though. Kinda like the loyalty we feel for a parent for instance.
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john121984
john121984
38. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 8 2008, 12:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 8 2008, 12:26 PM EDT
I wonder if she knows more about how humans act than she lets on? 4  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    

SilentHer0
39. RE: Official John-Cameron Thread
Apr 8 2008, 1:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 8 2008, 1:05 PM EDT
I wonder, if they develop a relationship...John and Cameron that is, how will the directors do it? They can't just suddenly have them having sex or something...lol. What do you think the first step of moving toward John and Cameron having a romantic relationship? Have they already taken the first step? For example, that scene with John reinserting her memory chip, for a moment he was staring at her as she was inactive, foreshadowing possibly he already has feelings for her. Personally I think Cameron might have a curiousity with human relationships, and possibly try to explore it herself or kiss John in the wrong context or something. 4  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
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