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planetxan
planetxan
40. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 4 2008, 8:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 4 2008, 8:29 PM EDT
" Assuming that we get more seasons, it'll be fun to see how they handle the Tin Man/Cameron getting a heart..."
She's already got one. She just doesn't know it yet. Only the wizard does, Future John, the man you never see, behind the curtain, running everything....hmmmm.... Do you find this valuable?    
MyImmortal
MyImmortal
41. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 4 2008, 8:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 4 2008, 8:34 PM EDT
You people read to much into this stuff honestly lol. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Vic_jr
Vic_jr
42. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 4 2008, 9:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 4 2008, 9:05 PM EDT
"And in a season 1 conversation with Cheri, John mentions that they both live near Wichita, Kansas. WofOz references abound in T:SCC - it's refeshing to see that in season 2 the writers haven't dropped that theme. Assuming that we get more seasons, it'll be fun to see how they handle the Tin Man/Cameron getting a heart...

And talk about a blast from the past - I can't believe that anyone managed to resurect this long-forgotten thread ;-)"
This is interesting:

In that episode, John said they were from Lawrence, Kansas. I picked that out while watching some of Season 1 today. Lawrence was the main city in the TV movie, "The Day After".

excerpt from IMDb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/plotsummary

[The frightening story of the weeks leading up to and following a nuclear strike on the United States. The bulk of the activity centers around the town of Lawrence, Kansas.]

I also say something in the "Demon Hand" episode. When the Shrink was lying outside his cabin, Ellison was standing over him with his gun. There was two rather clear reflections of a rainbow on the ground. Check it out of you have the DVDs.

"Somewhere over the Rainbow" reference or just a lighting coincidence? ;-) Do you find this valuable?    
planetxan
planetxan
43. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 4 2008, 9:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 4 2008, 9:31 PM EDT
"This is interesting:

In that episode, John said they were from Lawrence, Kansas. I picked that out while watching some of Season 1 today. Lawrence was the main city in the TV movie, "The Day After".

excerpt from IMDb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/plotsummary

[The frightening story of the weeks leading up to and following a nuclear strike on the United States. The bulk of the activity centers around the town of Lawrence, Kansas.]

I also say something in the "Demon Hand" episode. When the Shrink was lying outside his cabin, Ellison was standing over him with his gun. There was two rather clear reflections of a rainbow on the ground. Check it out of you have the DVDs.

"Somewhere over the Rainbow" reference or just a lighting coincidence? ;-)"
Good catch. Who the hell remembers "The Day After" much less details from it.? Do you find this valuable?    
Vic_jr
Vic_jr
44. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 4 2008, 10:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 4 2008, 10:54 PM EDT
"Good catch. Who the hell remembers "The Day After" much less details from it.?"
LOL... Me. I'm giving away my age, heh? Was way too young for the anti-war protests of the 60s and 70s so protesting No Nukes in the early 80's was a big thing for us. "The Day After" was something to watch. Do you find this valuable?    
HealingMindN
HealingMindN
45. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 4 2008, 11:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 4 2008, 11:23 PM EDT
"She's already got one. She just doesn't know it yet. Only the wizard does, Future John, the man you never see, behind the curtain, running everything....hmmmm...."
Your right. Future John has been unseen and untouchable by the terminators so far, just like the Wizard of Oz. I also think it's interesting how present John has the fictitious sir name, "Baum." As the author of his own story, he writes his own future, so it's not set.

This is the most brilliant thread so far. Do you find this valuable?    
lvrboy69701
lvrboy69701
46. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 4 2008, 11:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 4 2008, 11:51 PM EDT
Oh come on! Lets Just All Listen to Dark Side of The Moon while simultaniously watching WOZ. (By the way, Roger Waters never denied basing the album on the movie.) Do you find this valuable?    
Vic_jr
Vic_jr
47. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 5 2008, 10:21 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2008, 10:21 AM EDT
"Oh come on! Lets Just All Listen to Dark Side of The Moon while simultaniously watching WOZ. (By the way, Roger Waters never denied basing the album on the movie.)"
Heh, we tried that a few years ago. Interesting and ... spooky! :-o Do you find this valuable?    
AverageJo
AverageJo
48. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Oct 5 2008, 3:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2008, 3:42 PM EDT
"This is interesting:

In that episode, John said they were from Lawrence, Kansas. I picked that out while watching some of Season 1 today. Lawrence was the main city in the TV movie, "The Day After".

excerpt from IMDb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/plotsummary

[The frightening story of the weeks leading up to and following a nuclear strike on the United States. The bulk of the activity centers around the town of Lawrence, Kansas.]

I also say something in the "Demon Hand" episode. When the Shrink was lying outside his cabin, Ellison was standing over him with his gun. There was two rather clear reflections of a rainbow on the ground. Check it out of you have the DVDs.

"Somewhere over the Rainbow" reference or just a lighting coincidence? ;-)"
Great catch, Vic_jr, you're right about Lawrence, Kansas - I had completely forgotten about that! And kudos about noticing the Lawrence connection to "The Day After," as far as I know you are the first on this forum to bring that up. Honestly, T:SCC (as some else note) is like a 7-layer cake - every time you get through one level there turn out to be more.

I'm inspired by your example, and aim to post a possible reference/connection to the storyline concerning Shirley Manson's husband dying in a plane crash, and her replacement by a T-1000. Probably post a thread tomorrow, but can anyone else guess what it is now? Do you find this valuable?    
Iranatest
Iranatest
49. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Nov 1 2008, 8:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2008, 8:54 PM EDT
Uhm, background connections between "The Day After" and TSCC JD? Do you find this valuable?    
Iranatest
Iranatest
50. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Nov 1 2008, 9:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Nov 1 2008, 9:00 PM EDT
"enjoyed very much!

but maybe could we get a dog? it'd die from barking at cameron all the time. we'd have to brainwash it or something. Derek might be a goo toto. he's kinda lost and he's got dark hair like toto. "
Picture a small dog:

Yap, yap, yap, (but I don't undersand)

Warm and comforting

Wonderful companion that will still be with John or Sarah when the others are gone...

Toto, er, Riley's coming back into the show!! Do you find this valuable?    
Iranatest
Iranatest
51. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
Apr 11 2009, 1:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 11 2009, 1:54 AM EDT
OK, so Riley didn't make it.

However at the end of Season 2 John Connor has grown up. He goes to the future that his mother has prepared him for. He meets his old friends that he knows: his Uncle Derek and Cameron (but she's really Alison). He knows them but they do not know him or his story. Just like the Wizard of Oz ends with Dorothy back at the farm. Do you find this valuable?    
Casobs2
Casobs2
52. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
May 8 2009, 8:58 AM EDT | Post edited: May 8 2009, 8:58 AM EDT
I dont know if anyone will find this interesting, and its a bit off topic, but sense it is JC favourite story:

One of the last Munchkins died:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090508/munchkin_dead_090508/20090508?hub=Entertainment Do you find this valuable?    
Iranatest
Iranatest
53. RE: Discussion: The Wizard of Oz & The Terminator: SCC connection
May 10 2009, 12:40 AM EDT | Post edited: May 10 2009, 12:40 AM EDT
Thanks.

I probably watched the movie on TV every year from 1956 to around 1970. Do you find this valuable?    
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