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T-1976
T-1976
40. RE: Cameron John Romance
May 27 2008, 5:29 PM EDT | Post edited: May 27 2008, 5:29 PM EDT
"What if Cameron turns out to be a "daughter" of either John or Derek and a possible future Cameron? The "daughter" could be a reconstruction of the real child and sent back. This would account for her apparent age and affection for John. Check out Plot Lines if you want some interesting theories."
Very interesting theory.

Has anyone thought that Cameron might think of John...future or present...as a father figure to her?
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KrelleK
41. RE: Cameron John Romance
May 27 2008, 6:38 PM EDT | Post edited: May 27 2008, 6:38 PM EDT
"Very interesting theory.

Has anyone thought that Cameron might think of John...future or present...as a father figure to her? "
I could accept that, but is she not a little too what shall we say too "I love you feelings(as in girl loves boy" when she is alone with John, for her to look at him as father figure?

Just my thoughts
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Ghost63368
Ghost63368
42. RE: Cameron John Romance
May 28 2008, 3:06 PM EDT | Post edited: May 28 2008, 3:06 PM EDT
"I could accept that, but is she not a little too what shall we say too "I love you feelings(as in girl loves boy" when she is alone with John, for her to look at him as father figure?

Just my thoughts"
Maybe not a father figure but a confused daughter. Perhaps she sees John as a potential mate due to the fact that they are the same apparent age? Then again she could have been sent back just to point John along a path that leads to him becoming a resistance Leader instead of being a pawn.
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T-1976
T-1976
43. RE: Cameron John Romance
May 28 2008, 5:32 PM EDT | Post edited: May 28 2008, 5:32 PM EDT
"Maybe not a father figure but a confused daughter. Perhaps she sees John as a potential mate due to the fact that they are the same apparent age? Then again she could have been sent back just to point John along a path that leads to him becoming a resistance Leader instead of being a pawn."
That's a good theory.

Perhaps Cameron was programmed..also...to kind of "toughin'" up John a bit. Make him more of a man. And part of that process is to become a type of "girlfriend" to him.

Perhaps its part of her mission to "love" John and the may eventually lead to a real kind of love.
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SusanWillow
SusanWillow
44. RE: Cameron John Romance
May 29 2008, 1:35 PM EDT | Post edited: May 29 2008, 1:35 PM EDT
"Very interesting theory.

Has anyone thought that Cameron might think of John...future or present...as a father figure to her? "
This could work. I mean all the lovey dovey stuff has really only come from JOhn not Cameron.
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Ghost63368
Ghost63368
45. RE: Cameron John Romance
May 30 2008, 8:44 PM EDT | Post edited: May 30 2008, 8:44 PM EDT
"That's a good theory.

Perhaps Cameron was programmed..also...to kind of "toughin'" up John a bit. Make him more of a man. And part of that process is to become a type of "girlfriend" to him.

Perhaps its part of her mission to "love" John and the may eventually lead to a real kind of love. "
Good thought. Another possibility is that she is one of 3 Cameron's that was sent to the past and is confused about who John really is.
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Ghost63368
Ghost63368
46. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 20 2008, 9:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 20 2008, 9:22 PM EDT
"They have not thoroughly talked about the design of Cameron. She can simulate (at least) eating, which looks to be a first. That would mean there's a fundamental change in the makeup of her workings (and possibly the T-888 since it faked being married and had to look like it was eating, etc.), and whatever design Chromartie is as that has yet to be established too.

Perhaps, too, that her brain isn't just the CPU that John took out, but inside the skull casing the "wiring" is more like a neural net design, modeled on the human brain. There must be a reason that Cameron, above all other machines (again, I don't think they ever mentioned her has specifically a Terminator model nor has she said she is one), is so advanced. "
Whenever she is scanned by another Terminator she shows up as a unknown Terminator. Cameron could be a design so advanced that there is no comparison. Perhaps she is part human Terminator.
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LuckiiBeckii
LuckiiBeckii
47. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 20 2008, 11:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 20 2008, 11:27 PM EDT
wow...this topic started strangely, but at least it's come to a more intelligent level.

I would agree with the sort of father figure thing if Cam didn't refer to John with JUST that sort of nuance that totally hinted at a deep seated platonic (friends) or romantic connection. She seems more possesive of FutureJohn then proud. "Not my John" anyone? I should stop quoting that as I'm paraphrasing and she might not even had said it, but hey a girl can dream right? (please prove me RIGHT! teehee) That, and the "many friends" bit. So far, she's been the only terminator to feel the need to 'comfort' John when he seems hesitant about certain situations. Have we ever seen any other terminator have that function before? To notice uncertainty and process a comforting reaction? that has to take some degree of feeling, surely. That isn't really something you can program. It furthers the popular theory that Cameron was not only sent back to protect John, but to actually play a part in the process that molds him into the leader he is to become, by being the guiding hand, the comforting presence in his life...which I think should be Sarah's job, but hey she can't be everywhere, right? lol
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T-1976
T-1976
48. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 20 2008, 11:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 20 2008, 11:55 PM EDT
"wow...this topic started strangely, but at least it's come to a more intelligent level.

I would agree with the sort of father figure thing if Cam didn't refer to John with JUST that sort of nuance that totally hinted at a deep seated platonic (friends) or romantic connection. She seems more possesive of FutureJohn then proud. "Not my John" anyone? I should stop quoting that as I'm paraphrasing and she might not even had said it, but hey a girl can dream right? (please prove me RIGHT! teehee) That, and the "many friends" bit. So far, she's been the only terminator to feel the need to 'comfort' John when he seems hesitant about certain situations. Have we ever seen any other terminator have that function before? To notice uncertainty and process a comforting reaction? that has to take some degree of feeling, surely. That isn't really something you can program. It furthers the popular theory that Cameron was not only sent back to protect John, but to actually play a part in the process that molds him into the leader he is to become, by being the guiding hand, the comforting presence in his life...which I think should be Sarah's job, but hey she can't be everywhere, right? lol"
Interesting thoughts LuckiiBeckii.

I think we might find out that Cameron has a very complex nueral network (Yeah, I know I cant spell) that is capable of more thoughts and feelings than other previous models of terminators. And is capable of more learning. (think of a 5000 GB harddrive) :) than ever before....remember she said she is different.

Perhaps......and this is just my theory.....that Cameron is a special terminator that John constructed JUST for himself...heavily modified with everything his younger self needs to get ready for the future. Sure he sent back Arnold....but I think he realized in these crucial years that he not only needs a protector...but a sort of mentor, friend, "spiritual advisor" companion, lover...whatever word you want to attach to it, to prepare himself.
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LuckiiBeckii
LuckiiBeckii
49. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 21 2008, 2:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2008, 2:30 PM EDT
totally. and if anything, John should then feel a sort of fatherly relationship towards HER, since he would have in essence created her from scratch. Of course he doesn't know that just yet but it makes sense that if he created her himself, everything about her is going to appeal to Younger John, because FutureJohn is the same John and likes the same things in a girl! ^_^ And what creation wouldn't bond with it's creator, at least on that intelligence level? I'm sure if FutureJohn did indeed create Cam, reprogram her, etc. there was a lot of time the two spent together. It's just so full of possibilities! 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
T-1976
T-1976
50. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 21 2008, 5:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 21 2008, 5:31 PM EDT
"totally. and if anything, John should then feel a sort of fatherly relationship towards HER, since he would have in essence created her from scratch. Of course he doesn't know that just yet but it makes sense that if he created her himself, everything about her is going to appeal to Younger John, because FutureJohn is the same John and likes the same things in a girl! ^_^ And what creation wouldn't bond with it's creator, at least on that intelligence level? I'm sure if FutureJohn did indeed create Cam, reprogram her, etc. there was a lot of time the two spent together. It's just so full of possibilities! "
I want to use a "Frankenstein's monster/Dr. Frankenstein" analogy, but it seems rather strange.

I hardly consider Cameron a monster (cause she's so beautiful of course :D) but it really seems the only one that fits.
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valkyra_mo
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51. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 23 2008, 10:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2008, 10:16 PM EDT
I can't get my head around all this stuff. I am going to stick with my original opinion....Sarah would tear cameron to pieces...bolt by bolt... if she thought that there was somthing "hinky" going on there....it's just not right.... Do you find this valuable?    
Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
52. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 23 2008, 10:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2008, 10:23 PM EDT
"I can't get my head around all this stuff. I am going to stick with my original opinion....Sarah would tear cameron to pieces...bolt by bolt... if she thought that there was somthing "hinky" going on there....it's just not right...."
You got that right.
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T-1976
T-1976
53. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 23 2008, 10:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2008, 10:55 PM EDT
Maybe we need to put up a link to that endoskeleton again so that it will remind people.

As lovely as Cameron is..........THIS IS WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE UNDERNEATH.....lol
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T-1976
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54. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 23 2008, 10:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2008, 10:56 PM EDT
Maybe we need to put up a link to that endoskeleton again so that it will remind people.

As lovely as Cameron is..........THIS IS WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE UNDERNEATH.....lol
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Krazykaleb
Krazykaleb
55. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 23 2008, 11:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2008, 11:01 PM EDT
"Maybe we need to put up a link to that endoskeleton again so that it will remind people.

As lovely as Cameron is..........THIS IS WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE UNDERNEATH.....lol "
It would be like doing a Light Pole.

Oh Crud !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got electricuted with 1.21 Gigowatts. I'm dead!!!!
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T-1976
T-1976
56. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 24 2008, 12:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2008, 12:16 AM EDT
"It would be like doing a Light Pole.

Oh Crud !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got electricuted with 1.21 Gigowatts. I'm dead!!!!"
And unfortunately for a human, you dont get 120 seconds and a system reboot

Its more like an ambulance ride and the paddles *CLEAR!*
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HK103
HK103
57. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 24 2008, 10:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2008, 10:47 AM EDT
"Maybe we need to put up a link to that endoskeleton again so that it will remind people.

As lovely as Cameron is..........THIS IS WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE UNDERNEATH.....lol "
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/928/50518302.JPG

This is what we look like underneath...
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
58. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 24 2008, 1:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2008, 1:00 PM EDT
Yeah, not a good analogy. We all look fairly "un pretty" underneath our skins.

She's a synthetic machine and we're organic machines. Both with skeletons and electrical systems, etc.

So... who's to say that they can't have more than just platonic feelings for each other?

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FrenchfanofTSCC2
FrenchfanofTSCC2
59. RE: Cameron John Romance
Jun 24 2008, 1:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2008, 1:11 PM EDT
Sorry but now its over they have cast john girl friend for season 2 so its over the idea with Cameron ! Do you find this valuable?    
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