A Wetpaint Site

Sign in to Wetpaint

Already a member?
Sign in

Location: The Wizard of Oz-ology

Discussion: Possible Wizard of Oz link.....

Keyword tags:

Watch

bot[CS1.6]	Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Aug 21 2008, 9:58 PM EDT I was re-watching the "Dungeons and Dragons" episode. (I just picked up the series during rerun week) and I noticed the following picture. http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/photo/1285569/Lion+Logo I remembered stumbling upon the page about Oz connections to Terminator:SCC. I think maybe this might be another, weak maybe, connection. The logo features a Lion with the head of a Terminator in its mouth. As mentioned John can be seen as the Lion in Oz, needs to find courage. Therefore the logo may be suggesting John found of courage and his fight against the machines. That may not be enough to convince many, including myself, that there is an Oz link but then I got thinking. Why did they use a Lion? If you want a large cat why not go with the standard tiger? Or another animal? A smashed calculator? It may just be wishful thinking and over analysis of a simple logo and quiet possible there is no link to Oz. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs	RE: Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Aug 21 2008, 11:46 PM EDT "I was re-watching the "Dungeons and Dragons" episode. (I just picked up the series during rerun week) and I noticed the following picture. http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/photo/1285569/Lion+Logo I remembered stumbling upon the page about Oz connections to Terminator:SCC. I think maybe this might be another, weak maybe, connection. The logo features a Lion with the head of a Terminator in its mouth. As mentioned John can be seen as the Lion in Oz, needs to find courage. Therefore the logo may be suggesting John found of courage and his fight against the machines. That may not be enough to convince many, including myself, that there is an Oz link but then I got thinking. Why did they use a Lion? If you want a large cat why not go with the standard tiger? Or another animal? A smashed calculator? It may just be wishful thinking and over analysis of a simple logo and quiet possible there is no link to Oz." Don't know, but it's a possibility. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
IvyMike	RE: Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Aug 22 2008, 1:04 AM EDT Zack Stentz, aka "The Turk", staff writer for TSCC who came up with the "Hang in there baby" poster in the safe house, posted this on TerminatorFiles: "Once we had the poster in the first episode, we just kind of liked the idea that the phrase from the famous poster actually had emotional meaning to these guys from the future." Full post here: http://www.terminatorfiles.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10248&highlight=#10248 "The Turk" doesn't say as much, but it could be a reference to Oz... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
AverageJo	RE: Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Aug 22 2008, 11:01 AM EDT "Zack Stentz, aka "The Turk", staff writer for TSCC who came up with the "Hang in there baby" poster in the safe house, posted this on TerminatorFiles: "Once we had the poster in the first episode, we just kind of liked the idea that the phrase from the famous poster actually had emotional meaning to these guys from the future."" Thanks bot[CS1.6], the lion painting in the resistance tunnel as a possible connection to Oz (and there are many in the show) is something that I hadn't thought of. Great observation. IvyMike, I had always just thought that someone on the writing staff had a cat fetish. First there was the "Hang in There Baby" kitten poster in the safe house, and the "Hang in There Baby" lion painting in the tunnel. And when Cameron asks the ballet instructor what dance another student is doing, it is something with "cat" in it (forget what exactly). Then someone on the writer's blog mentions that an actual live tiger will be featured in a season 2 episode. Maybe there's something up with that... Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
CyberDyne.Systems	RE: Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Sep 5 2008, 3:54 PM EDT "I was re-watching the "Dungeons and Dragons" episode. (I just picked up the series during rerun week) and I noticed the following picture. http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/photo/1285569/Lion+Logo I remembered stumbling upon the page about Oz connections to Terminator:SCC. I think maybe this might be another, weak maybe, connection. The logo features a Lion with the head of a Terminator in its mouth. As mentioned John can be seen as the Lion in Oz, needs to find courage. Therefore the logo may be suggesting John found of courage and his fight against the machines. That may not be enough to convince many, including myself, that there is an Oz link but then I got thinking. Why did they use a Lion? If you want a large cat why not go with the standard tiger? Or another animal? A smashed calculator? It may just be wishful thinking and over analysis of a simple logo and quiet possible there is no link to Oz." Dorothy = Sarah (just lost in the confusion) like a blonde in Wal-Mart just ready to go home (Kansas) in hopes of it just being a dream John = The Lion (Fear driven) Cameron = Tin Man without emotion.. Remember Cameron asking John all those questions about emotion and then the sudden dance lessons?? It's an attempt to feel complete. ...John's been living in fear so long, that he must overcome it and take charge... becoming the ravage beast of the future that saves all humanity. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
T850-101 T850-101	RE: Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Sep 5 2008, 6:13 PM EDT "Dorothy = Sarah (just lost in the confusion) like a blonde in Wal-Mart just ready to go home (Kansas) in hopes of it just being a dream John = The Lion (Fear driven) Cameron = Tin Man without emotion.. Remember Cameron asking John all those questions about emotion and then the sudden dance lessons?? It's an attempt to feel complete. ...John's been living in fear so long, that he must overcome it and take charge... becoming the ravage beast of the future that saves all humanity." Derek = Scarcrow, needs a brain to relise that not all machines are bad. John = Lion, needs to find the courage to stand up and take charge Cameron = Tin Man, 1- she is a robot 2- understanding human emotions Dorothy = Sarah, things, people and placres charging fast around her so feeling lost and confused, Plus every seems to be forgeting that thier fake surname is BAUM, which is also the surname of the author for the Wizard of Oz. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
mg.mikael	RE: Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Sep 5 2008, 7:02 PM EDT "Derek = Scarcrow, needs a brain to relise that not all machines are bad. John = Lion, needs to find the courage to stand up and take charge Cameron = Tin Man, 1- she is a robot 2- understanding human emotions Dorothy = Sarah, things, people and placres charging fast around her so feeling lost and confused, Plus every seems to be forgeting that thier fake surname is BAUM, which is also the surname of the author for the Wizard of Oz." Cameron isn't connected to the Tin-Man, because she's a robot. It's much deeper then that, because if you recall the story, the tin-man wanted a heart. In the end he found out he always had a heart, because he cared for others. This is the strange and cryptic connection to the tin-miss. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
CyberDyne.Systems	RE: Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Sep 5 2008, 8:16 PM EDT "Cameron isn't connected to the Tin-Man, because she's a robot. It's much deeper then that, because if you recall the story, the tin-man wanted a heart. In the end he found out he always had a heart, because he cared for others. This is the strange and cryptic connection to the tin-miss. " Technically, Cameron isn't even a robot. She's a cyborg. Also, the in depth comment could possibly be interpreted as a sign of Cameron wants to have a soul. However, I seriously believe even a cyborg or robot could eventually develop characteristics that could gradually seem like a soul. The trick question is, what is her bidding? Will she remain an ally or become a foe? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
T850-101 T850-101	RE: Possible Wizard of Oz link..... Sep 6 2008, 6:15 PM EDT "Cameron isn't connected to the Tin-Man, because she's a robot. It's much deeper then that, because if you recall the story, the tin-man wanted a heart. In the end he found out he always had a heart, because he cared for others. This is the strange and cryptic connection to the tin-miss. " True, but Cameron could also be the yellow brick road as she is showing them the paths of thier lives, John how to stand up and lead mankind, sarah that she needs to let john have some growing room and derek that some machines arn't bad and want to help mankind. Post reply 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

Related Content

(what's this?)

Official TSCC Episode 13: "Earthlings Welcome Here" Thread	FanFiction by Veran	Terminator: Fan Fiction
TSCC Macros	"Chip Integrity Compromised"	What would it be like to be Cameron? Now with improved Fanfic Index
Cameron vs a T-X (Terminatrix)	Fan Fiction By ClaudeFTW	Death Is Not The Worst That Can Happen To Men
How I met hope - Chapter 6	How I met hope.	How I met hope - Chapter 7