"Notty's argument is feeble. SCC is not T2 or T3. It has CW and Cameron as unique terminators which evolve over time. In Cameron's case there may have been a rather rapid initial evoluton due to the emotional subsystem she has
among other things. Or there may have been contact with CW ? The simpleton back story Notty has bought into did not require a complex episode like AFP.
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"As much as I like Cameron- people need to stop coming up with crazy ideas about her IE not being reprogrammed and having organs shit of that nature. Correct me if I'm wrong Accept, but if she never need to be reprogrammed then that means she basically had free will, and if that's the case then she wouldn't have tried to kill John in 2x01.

Well Loop can believe whatever he wants- I mean that's fine, but you do have to accept that there's cannon and reprogrammed Cameron is cannon."

"As much as I like Cameron- people need to stop coming up with crazy ideas about her IE not being reprogrammed and having organs shit of that nature. Correct me if I'm wrong Accept, but if she never needed to be reprogrammed then that means she basically had free will, and if that's the case then she wouldn't have tried to kill John in 2x01.

Well Loop can believe whatever he wants- I mean that's fine, but you do have to accept that there's canon and reprogrammed Cameron is canon.

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"I don't doubt that future John looked at Cameron's chip and maybe he told her re-programmed it but actually did not or could not. Of course imperfect re-programming could mean an attempt which changed very little also. What we don't have is proof that Cameron was trying to kill John for Skynet and was captured and scrubbed. If that happened we would have seen it but instead we get AFP which shows that Cameron had the emotion of anger already making her quite different than a normal terminator. "

"John wouldn't know. Cameron has a limited understanding of her makeup. Humans are designed to be carnivores but not all humans choose to eat meat. Cameron does kill humans and rather too easily although that changed in the last episode .
That does not mean she was trying to kill future JC. One can speculate whether she like CW turned against Skynet on her own or perhaps had help from CW or ? . If JC reprogrammed Cameron why is the emotional subsystem still there ? Certainly he would go for reliability and something along the line of Uncle Bob. If there isn't a big surprise why haven't we seen the scene where Cameron tries to kill future John ? "

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The terminator transcending its design typify humans that contrary to all odds become honest and loving people. Like Helen Keller [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Keller], someone under dark shroud of years of sensory deprivation, loneliness and abandonment, overcomes it all to become a lively and creative person. It might be not without help that Cameron and Weaver overcome their more straightforward tendencies. Maybe John "convinced" them by argument, or enlightened them with thoughts about the human condition, or by uncommon interactions with humans and machine, the terminator came to realize some greater truth that their original knowledge didnt account for.
John could have captured, extracted Cameron's chip and communicated with it by electronic means, without tempering its program. By this interaction, Cameron could have changed her mind about humanity, and convinced John somehow, maybe giving him essential information on Skynet. Then he decided to tell everyone that he had reprogrammed her so they would trust her too, instructing her to do the same. She says she had her memories erased so she doesn't reveal much that would change the future by changing Sarah's and John's actions in the present.
When she threatens John's, while being crushed, it could be that her program malfunctioned so that she temporarily lost her recent memories about changing her mind, by her previous memories, she had to kill John. It could be something different, like we get confused when knocked in the had, so did she saw enemies where there were friends. To understand humans better, understand emotions and make powerful decisions, her design must include multiple reasoning units, probably with different approaches and sometimes reaching conflicting conclusions that must be synthesized by higher order reasoning, when that higher process fails, she might become unstable, incoherent about past decisions."

"a child can c through this"

"But it is Greek to you Notty !"

"He met his match with Dr Norton."