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logansean
logansean
20. RE: Jesse
Oct 23 2008, 8:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 23 2008, 8:24 AM EDT
"Jessie's goal is to kill John. I agree that she's there because many in the resistance are unhappy with John's relationship with the machines."
I think that they are unhappy about his relationship with Cameron in particular. It appears that she may be closer to him than any human, even his father and his uncle.
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cadolfan
cadolfan
21. RE: Jesse
Oct 23 2008, 9:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 23 2008, 9:40 AM EDT
Jesse is not a machine right? I think it ws suggested in this thread that she was but I watched the episode again last night and I don't think she is. I thought that the machines were heavier than humans yet Derek lifts her up as they about to make love. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
AdoptMeSarah
AdoptMeSarah
22. RE: Jesse
Oct 25 2008, 11:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2008, 11:48 AM EDT
I think Jesse either went back to kill John or kill Cameron. Or maybe even both. Perhaps she knows something about the future that Derek doesn't know. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
23. RE: Jesse
Oct 25 2008, 1:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2008, 1:21 PM EDT
She probably made a pact with Skynet to let her come back to the present. A pact with the devil. Derek will have to off her at some point. Do you find this valuable?    
Thecolours
Thecolours
24. RE: Jesse
Oct 25 2008, 1:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2008, 1:25 PM EDT
"I think Jesse either went back to kill John or kill Cameron. Or maybe even both. Perhaps she knows something about the future that Derek doesn't know. "
Tthey would have showed Cameron in the pictures that Jesse swept underneath her bed, if she was a possible target.
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doves1993
25. RE: Jesse
Oct 26 2008, 6:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 26 2008, 6:30 PM EDT
Personally i think she might have come back to get away form the war and she might be spying on them because she misses Derek and wants to see how John is becoming the future leader and mabe it will turn out that she wants to help them and give advice on what to do and don't do.
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AdoptMeSarah
AdoptMeSarah
26. RE: Jesse
Oct 27 2008, 1:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 27 2008, 1:01 AM EDT
"Tthey would have showed Cameron in the pictures that Jesse swept underneath her bed, if she was a possible target."
Well, there appeared to be a lot of photos there and we didn't see them all. The ones on top of the pile were of Derek and John. Even if she doesn't know about Cameron, when she finds out she's gonna want to kill her too.
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MichalNancyKarni
MichalNancyKarni
27. RE: Jesse
Nov 18 2008, 3:44 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 18 2008, 3:44 PM EST
"I think that they are unhappy about his relationship with Cameron in particular. It appears that she may be closer to him than any human, even his father and his uncle."
of course he's attracted to her. she's a duplicate of his girlfriend...
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stroll
stroll
28. RE: Jesse
Nov 18 2008, 4:02 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 18 2008, 4:02 PM EST
"Personally i think she might have come back to get away form the war and she might be spying on them because she misses Derek and wants to see how John is becoming the future leader and mabe it will turn out that she wants to help them and give advice on what to do and don't do.
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I think that it's something like this. Not necessarily kill John, but change how the Resistence comes to be and turns out.

Since Monday's episode we have a lot of new info...there *are* humans who work for Skynet, and Skynet *does* have some need for humans.

I thought it was interesting that Cameron said "We aren't built to be cruel"...meanwhile Jesse (and Derek to an extent with the fingernail snatching-out) was taking a somewhat cruel approach to the two Fishers.
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Lezlie
29. RE: Jesse
Nov 19 2008, 10:07 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 10:07 PM EST
No, Jesse is not a terminator! That's getting to be the excuse for everything. She's human until proven otherwise, OK? But we got some interesting info in the last episode: Jesse apparently comes from a different dimension or universe than Derek does. Because Derek says he doesn't remember the things that Jesse remembers, about his capture and torture and interrogation. Derek says he's done things that may have changed history. Quite possible! Like killing Andy Goode! So now we have humans coming back through time from multiple dimensions...or is it just one dimension, that has now changed? Is the future different, now? (If so, it sounds worse to me!) So if Jesse is truly human, and the future has truly changed...what does that mean??? Do you find this valuable?    
flygrrrrl
flygrrrrl
30. RE: Jesse
Nov 19 2008, 10:15 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 19 2008, 10:15 PM EST
"No, Jesse is not a terminator! That's getting to be the excuse for everything. She's human until proven otherwise, OK? But we got some interesting info in the last episode: Jesse apparently comes from a different dimension or universe than Derek does. Because Derek says he doesn't remember the things that Jesse remembers, about his capture and torture and interrogation. Derek says he's done things that may have changed history. Quite possible! Like killing Andy Goode! So now we have humans coming back through time from multiple dimensions...or is it just one dimension, that has now changed? Is the future different, now? (If so, it sounds worse to me!) So if Jesse is truly human, and the future has truly changed...what does that mean???"
Would alternate universes negate the writings in blood on the wall? Following that map could lead to even further disaster.
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cadolfan
cadolfan
31. RE: Jesse
Nov 20 2008, 12:55 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2008, 12:55 AM EST
maybe here mission was to smoke out Fisher and kill him? Do you find this valuable?    

Xynoxx
32. RE: Jesse
Nov 20 2008, 3:46 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 20 2008, 3:46 AM EST
"Personally i think she might have come back to get away form the war and she might be spying on them because she misses Derek and wants to see how John is becoming the future leader and mabe it will turn out that she wants to help them and give advice on what to do and don't do."

Unfortunately, I believe this to be a too hopeful explanation.


Whatever she is, Jess is pure trouble. Inimical.
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