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RussianGeek
The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 23 2008, 1:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 23 2008, 1:01 AM EDT
I am positive that either future John or somekind of an ally of his sent this robot to kill the doc because the doc might be crucial to SkyNet.

The reason the robot killed the driver and the secretary was to get rid of obstacles. Arnold in T2 was programmed to kill and would continue doing so, until little John explicitly told him not to.

Another question would be whether this psychologist is a unique genius who was the only one capable of helping SkyNet with the child-psychology/programming, but he probably is unique enough to warrant danger. In other words, Cameron has unknowingly helped Skynet that needs the doc the same way it needs the FBI Agent.

What do you guys think?
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spartan547
spartan547
1. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 23 2008, 2:22 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 23 2008, 2:22 AM EDT
I think the machine was sent by Skynet because the Doctor helps John come to terms with himself and his depression and very likely helps prevent John from killing himself. 5  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
SAABMaven
SAABMaven
2. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 7:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 7:09 AM EDT
"I am positive that either future John or somekind of an ally of his sent this robot to kill the doc because the doc might be crucial to SkyNet.
...
What do you guys think?"
It occurred to me, but then why would the chip on the 'fembot' self-destruct?

It also occurred to me that robots reprogrammed by humans would have some kind of protocol for encounters such as this...
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planetxan
planetxan
3. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 3:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 3:15 PM EDT
If future John wanted the Doc dead, it would make more sense for him to send a person back. Both T's that have been sent back directly deal with present John. It would seem irresponsible to send an unescorted T back in time, knowing they go 'bad' sometimes.

If she was sent back to deal with Doc, then that would mean that Skynet is trying to undermine the Turk, further implying that Catherine Weaver is not part of Skynet and has her own agenda.

Had Derek not killed Andy Goode, somehow he would have ended up responsible for Skynet. Since the Turk was stolen before Derek killed him, it seems safe to assume that this Turk is not, or was not going to be the direct predecessor to Skynet, but rather something else built by Andy.

But, about Red: these are the things I don't get. Why did it stop fighting when the people got on the lift? Can you picture any of the other Ts doing that?

And the self-destructing chip; it could just as well be self destructing because it has come back in the past and whoever sent it back doesn't want it to be reverse engineered. John is just assuming it is to keep it from being reprogrammed. But often in the series one of the characters has stated something as though it were fact, only to find out it wasn't the case. Ex. Cam says Vic was sent back for the resistance fighters, but she was wrong. He was sent back to protect that women's project. John says "I built her, I sent her back." but that seems to be wrong as well. If he built her, she wouldn't have to look for him in the future.
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Prince_Xenu
Prince_Xenu
4. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 3:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 3:17 PM EDT
Skynet sent it as a protector. Remember, Cameron specifically said it couldn't have been re-programmed. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Birdman117
Birdman117
5. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 3:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 3:18 PM EDT
I miss that terminator...she was cute. Do you find this valuable?    

LiquidMetal
6. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 3:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 3:26 PM EDT
You mean Pretzel-Terminator?

Skynet must be at the bottom of the barrel at their end. :-)

I can see it now:

Skynet: "Which Terminator can we send back?"
Terminator In Charge of Resources (TICOR): "We only have Red left".
Skynet: "Crap. Send her anyway."


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Prince_Xenu
Prince_Xenu
7. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 3:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 3:28 PM EDT
"You mean Pretzel-Terminator?

Skynet must be at the bottom of the barrel at their end. :-)

I can see it now:

Skynet: "Which Terminator can we send back?"
Terminator In Charge of Resources (TICOR): "We only have Red left".
Skynet: "Crap. Send her anyway."


"
Skynet doesn't seem to know about Cameron. Conspiracy theories aside, CW only found out about her recently. That red haired one would have been enough to fend off human assassins.
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planetxan
planetxan
8. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 3:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 3:39 PM EDT
"Skynet doesn't seem to know about Cameron. Conspiracy theories aside, CW only found out about her recently. That red haired one would have been enough to fend off human assassins."
CW hasn't found out about her specifically. She only knows two terminators got in a fight. She has no idea who they are. Only that one lost an eye and both disappeared.

Riddle me this: How did she carry a woman tied in knots out of a busy office building?
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Prince_Xenu
Prince_Xenu
9. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 3:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 3:42 PM EDT
"CW hasn't found out about her specifically. She only knows two terminators got in a fight. She has no idea who they are. Only that one lost an eye and both disappeared. "
Yeah, thats true. Lets just say she now knows theres a terminator working against Skynet.
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Icall9MM
Icall9MM
10. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 3:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 3:54 PM EDT
"You mean Pretzel-Terminator?

Skynet must be at the bottom of the barrel at their end. :-)

I can see it now:

Skynet: "Which Terminator can we send back?"
Terminator In Charge of Resources (TICOR): "We only have Red left".
Skynet: "Crap. Send her anyway."


"
dude, you made me crack up so loud just now, and I'm at work. Classic, thanks!
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WildCyborg
WildCyborg
11. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 5:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 5:56 PM EDT
I think Cameron foolish Connors. We aren't really know, does chip run self destructiot command. May be Cameron destroyed this chip for they own goal? Why she taking Vik's chip? Does really Cameron hide coltan in water at season 1 from SkyNet? In "Mouse trap", terminators very well work under water. I think something changing in future time line. Any action in past was changing future. And who send Jesse and red hair terminator? May be resistance have info, who really is Cameron? I think Cameron is SkyNet. She can reprogrammed herself when she like. Yes, Cameron does John bodyguard, but what really is her goal to do this? I think its not a Allison part inside Cameron chip, who override termination program. She not a simple infiltration terminator, she is more advanced. Do you find this valuable?    
Stampguy17
Stampguy17
12. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 6:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 6:03 PM EDT
"You mean Pretzel-Terminator?

Skynet must be at the bottom of the barrel at their end. :-)

I can see it now:

Skynet: "Which Terminator can we send back?"
Terminator In Charge of Resources (TICOR): "We only have Red left".
Skynet: "Crap. Send her anyway."


"
LOL, good one!!!
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kelvynmann
kelvynmann
13. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 6:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 6:26 PM EDT
"CW hasn't found out about her specifically. She only knows two terminators got in a fight. She has no idea who they are. Only that one lost an eye and both disappeared.

Riddle me this: How did she carry a woman tied in knots out of a busy office building?"
hmmm....good question..how did she?
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tk1000
tk1000
14. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 6:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 6:28 PM EDT
"Riddle me this: How did she carry a woman tied in knots out of a busy office building?"
big plastic trash bag?
suitcase?
christmas wrap?
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T-1976
T-1976
15. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 28 2008, 6:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2008, 6:49 PM EDT
I figure it one of three ways....either she was

sent back to protect the doctor because he is the one that corrects the Turks "emtionally instability"...or

sent back to kill the doctor because he is the one that could potentially make Skynet more "humane" .....or

sent back to kill the doctor because he helps John through his problems so he can eventually fulfill his destiny to be the leader of mankind. (though i think this one is the least likely)

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WildCyborg
WildCyborg
16. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 29 2008, 4:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 29 2008, 4:29 PM EDT
"I figure it one of three ways....either she was

sent back to protect the doctor because he is the one that corrects the Turks "emtionally instability"...or

sent back to kill the doctor because he is the one that could potentially make Skynet more "humane" .....or

sent back to kill the doctor because he helps John through his problems so he can eventually fulfill his destiny to be the leader of mankind. (though i think this one is the least likely)

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I put all money to your first and second speculation. When we were going deeper in forest, we were meeting more fat partisans, or in another words Cameron was it that fat partisan-SkyNet.
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WildCyborg
WildCyborg
17. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 29 2008, 4:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 29 2008, 4:32 PM EDT
"I put all money to your first and second speculation. When we were going deeper in forest, we were meeting more fat partisans, or in another words Cameron was it that fat partisan-SkyNet. "
Sorry my mistake. Only second speculation, not first.
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Prince_Xenu
Prince_Xenu
18. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 29 2008, 4:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 29 2008, 4:39 PM EDT
"Sorry my mistake. Only second speculation, not first."
I disagree. The first explanation is much more probable. We know the Red terminator was sent by skynet as a protector for three reasons
1) She killed his secraty to take her place.
2) She cared about discretion, which is why she stopped fighting in the elevator. Terminators with kill missions don't do that.
3)Cameron specifically said she couldn't have been re-programmed.

No disagreement with you thus far. The conflict comes when we try to ascertain skynets motivations in sending Red back to protect him. Skynet has no demonstrated interest in becoming more humane. On the other hand, he's already proven some value to CW in understanding what the Turk meant.

Scenario #`1 is correct.
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WildCyborg
WildCyborg
19. RE: The female robot Cameron disabled
Oct 29 2008, 4:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 29 2008, 4:48 PM EDT
"Sorry my mistake. Only second speculation, not first."
Ups, I had malfunction chip in my head at evening. right is first speculation.Sorry.
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