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Brovane
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60. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 8:54 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 8:54 AM EST
To bad this show is on network TV. The sex scenes on cable channels are much better. 0  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    

Veran
61. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 9:36 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 9:36 AM EST
I imagine John will still be sulking about Sarah's treatment of Riley, and Cameron will poke her head in the door and try to get him to talk. He'll be unresponsive and tell her to go away, but she'll do "Vick's Chip" and spontaneously lie down on his bed.

He'll be too stoked to care, or maybe secretly grateful for her company, and will try to ignore her but she'll keep staring at him until he cracks. He'll start bitching about how much his life sucks and that Riley lessens the pain and all that.

Cameron will deliver her line and (hopefully) offer some kind of comfort to him. John will be grateful but won't show it and will make her leave, politely though, no snarky comments. Cameron might give him some physical sign of affection (stroking his arm, squeezing his hand, peck on the cheek) and will leave him alone with his thoughts.

She'll give him one last glance before disappearing, after which he watches the empty doorway longingly.

...or so I hope. :)
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
62. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 10:28 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 10:28 AM EST
My goodness some people are so touchy about the ramifications of Cameron possibly being that advanced as in biomechanically able to bring a type of being into the world. It might be beyond the realm of possibility on this show, but it would make for some HUGE chatter on the boards, that's for darn sure!

Nanotechnology and a type of incubation device would certainly work as in the realm of sci-fi possibilities. Also, if during Alison's interrogation (while she's out) they harvested eggs from her to place inside Cameron to complete the "transformation" it would be the last key step. One could definitely come to that conclusion if you look at the scar on Jesse, and because Vick was fully "functional."

It means that they aren't just skin-jobs, but far more advanced than that.

Continuing on from my tender bedroom scene from the Ep. 8 trailer thread... (yes, this is after quite a few episodes)

After panning to the darkened window, there is a transition to the morning after. The camera pans back down onto the bed. The covers are rumpled as if tossed around, clothes have been strune about willy nilly, and John is holding Cameron in a tight and loving embrace under the cover sheet, and snoring softly.

Cameron [whispers loudly to John]: "John! John!"

John [mumbling]: "mmm... just a few more minutes."

Cameron [shaking his shoulder, louder]: "John! It's Sarah and Derek! They're back!"

John [sitting bolt upright as if hit with a tazor]: "Holy hell! My mom!"

They look at each other longingly for just a few beats and then as if the devil was right behind them, disentangle themselves from the covers and hurridly start throwing their clothes back on. Cameron is surprisingly all thumbs as she tries to practically put both pant legs on at the same time. more...
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daemondark
daemondark
63. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 10:37 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 10:37 AM EST
"My goodness some people are so touchy about the ramifications of Cameron possibly being that advanced as in biomechanically able to bring a type of being into the world. It might be beyond the realm of possibility on this show, but it would make for some HUGE chatter on the boards, that's for darn sure!

Nanotechnology and a type of incubation device would certainly work as in the realm of sci-fi possibilities. Also, if during Alison's interrogation (while she's out) they harvested eggs from her to place inside Cameron to complete the "transformation" it would be the last key step. One could definitely come to that conclusion if you look at the scar on Jesse, and because Vick was fully "functional."

It means that they aren't just skin-jobs, but far more advanced than that.

Continuing on from my tender bedroom scene from the Ep. 8 trailer thread... (yes, this is after quite a few episodes)

After panning to the darkened window, there is a transition to the morning after. The camera pans back down onto the bed. The covers are rumpled as if tossed around, clothes have been strune about willy nilly, and John is holding Cameron in a tight and loving embrace under the cover sheet, and snoring softly.

Cameron [whispers loudly to John]: "John! John!"

John [mumbling]: "mmm... just a few more minutes."

Cameron [shaking his shoulder, louder]: "John! It's Sarah and Derek! They're back!"

John [sitting bolt upright as if hit with a tazor]: "Holy hell! My mom!"

They look at each other longingly for just a few beats and then as if the devil was right behind them, disentangle themselves from the covers and hurridly start throwing their clothes back on. Cameron is surprisingly all thumbs as she tries to practically put both pant legs on at the same time. more... "
you should do a fanfic your pretty creative
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General_Mazaki
General_Mazaki
64. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 10:40 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 10:40 AM EST
Dayum! I leave for 6 hours of measely sleep, and you guys have switched this thing to Cameron being capable of reproduction.

Honestly, I doubt it would be possible for her. She would need a lot of properly functioning reproductive organs. Lets not forget that she would need to somehow need to provide nutrition to the baby so it can grow. Then, there's the whole real-world applications of it. Where is she gonna get any of the metal materials from to create this "terminator baby" inside her? Also, her periods wouldn't happen unless she is always eating, like a human.

Remember, matter can't come from anywhere, according to the laws of physics. Many organs are required to turn nutrients and food into living, organic tissue. It would be truly mind blowing if we really did it, as humanity, but haven't played God enough, here? It would be a perversion of nature, really. Sorry to come off as harsh, but John and Cam having sex is where I draw the mother-fuckin' line. And by line, I mean the freakin' Grand Canyon.
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General_Mazaki
General_Mazaki
65. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 10:42 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 10:42 AM EST
"I imagine John will still be sulking about Sarah's treatment of Riley, and Cameron will poke her head in the door and try to get him to talk. He'll be unresponsive and tell her to go away, but she'll do "Vick's Chip" and spontaneously lie down on his bed.

He'll be too stoked to care, or maybe secretly grateful for her company, and will try to ignore her but she'll keep staring at him until he cracks. He'll start bitching about how much his life sucks and that Riley lessens the pain and all that.

Cameron will deliver her line and (hopefully) offer some kind of comfort to him. John will be grateful but won't show it and will make her leave, politely though, no snarky comments. Cameron might give him some physical sign of affection (stroking his arm, squeezing his hand, peck on the cheek) and will leave him alone with his thoughts.

She'll give him one last glance before disappearing, after which he watches the empty doorway longingly.

...or so I hope. :)"
Oh yeah, the last glance too! She always does that. I always liked those last glances. :)
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
66. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 10:53 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 10:53 AM EST
...And promptly tumbles over flat on her face on the floor. John looks over quickly.

Cameron: "I'm okay!" [and jumps back up as if on a spring]

They continue to throw their T-shirts on and hand iron their completely wrinkled attire.

Cameron [turning to John, she looks completely out of wack, with her hair a tangled mess]: "How do I look?"

John: "Like we just slept together."

Sarah [calling from the bottom of the stairs]: "John?! Cameron?! Who wants pancakes?!" [getting no immediate reply she starts up the stairs] "Cameron?! Are you here?""

Cameron [uncharacteristically to John]: "Crap!" [she dashes out the door of John's bedroom and dives into the bathroom]

Sarah [now at the top of the stairs]: "Cameron!"

Cameron [turning the shower handle to on, and yelling as she starts tearing her clothes off]: "I'm in the shower!"

Sarah [turning the handle of the bathroom door and opening it just as Cameron closes the shower door]: "Cameron? Why didn't you answer me?"

Cameron [dumping shampoo on her head and lathering up quickly]: "I had shampoo in my eyes! I'm rinsing and repeating."

Sarah [cocks her head and looks like Cameron just said she was a martian]: "oookay." [and steps out, closing the door]

Sarah proceeds to John's room as he's looking at himself in the mirror and trying desperately to fix his hair.

Sarah [knocks on the door and pokes her head in]: "Hey, sleepyhead. You ready for some pancakes? I bought five boxes of mix."

John [distractedly]: "Hmm... yeah mom, be down in a sec."

Sarah [sensing something's up]: "Turn around, John, and look at me."

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thatAcuraGuy
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67. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:02 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:02 AM EST
Yes Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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General_Mazaki
General_Mazaki
68. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:07 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:07 AM EST
"...And promptly tumbles over flat on her face on the floor. John looks over quickly.

Cameron: "I'm okay!" [and jumps back up as if on a spring]

They continue to throw their T-shirts on and hand iron their completely wrinkled attire.

Cameron [turning to John, she looks completely out of wack, with her hair a tangled mess]: "How do I look?"

John: "Like we just slept together."

Sarah [calling from the bottom of the stairs]: "John?! Cameron?! Who wants pancakes?!" [getting no immediate reply she starts up the stairs] "Cameron?! Are you here?""

Cameron [uncharacteristically to John]: "Crap!" [she dashes out the door of John's bedroom and dives into the bathroom]

Sarah [now at the top of the stairs]: "Cameron!"

Cameron [turning the shower handle to on, and yelling as she starts tearing her clothes off]: "I'm in the shower!"

Sarah [turning the handle of the bathroom door and opening it just as Cameron closes the shower door]: "Cameron? Why didn't you answer me?"

Cameron [dumping shampoo on her head and lathering up quickly]: "I had shampoo in my eyes! I'm rinsing and repeating."

Sarah [cocks her head and looks like Cameron just said she was a martian]: "oookay." [and steps out, closing the door]

Sarah proceeds to John's room as he's looking at himself in the mirror and trying desperately to fix his hair.

Sarah [knocks on the door and pokes her head in]: "Hey, sleepyhead. You ready for some pancakes? I bought five boxes of mix."

John [distractedly]: "Hmm... yeah mom, be down in a sec."

Sarah [sensing something's up]: "Turn around, John, and look at me."

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lol, you sure make a point that Sarah loves those pancakes. :)

"I bought five boxes of mix."

lol, pure gold.
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Arbalest
Arbalest
69. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:19 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:19 AM EST
"Cameron [turning to John, she looks completely out of wack, with her hair a tangled mess]: "How do I look?"

John: "Like we just slept together."
"
I lulled!
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
70. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:21 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:21 AM EST
John reluctantly turns to face his mom.

Sarah [very curiously]: "Isn't that... Cameron's shirt?"

John [looking down and noticing for the first time that he certainly is wearing her T-shirt... it says "If you are close enough to read this, back the hell off!"] "Oh, yeah... I really like it... Cam said I could borrow it."

Sarah [in motherly six sense mode]: "Is there something going on I should know about?"

John [bugged eyed]: "N...no. [smiling] Not a thing. Why?"

Sarah: "Now I know something's up... hmm... anyway, wash up. Derek and I'll make breakfast."

John heaves a sigh of relief as Sarah turns to go, and then relief turns to terror as she stops in mid-stride and turns around half-way.

Sarah: "Tell Cameron she shouldn't leave her bras lying around."

She turns around the rest of the way, with Cameron's undergarment in her fingers held like a coiled viper. And marches back towards John.

Sarah [all business]: "You have five seconds to start talking, John Connor."

John [backing away and stammering]: "It's nothing... really. She was doing a load of wash and must have dropped it."

Sarah [she is having none of it and continues to advance, incredulously]: "Uh huh... on top of your bookshelf. Five... four... three..."

John [blurts out]: "We were together last night! Is this what you wanted to hear?! Are you happy, now?"

Sarah [slapping him hard across the face]: "What have you done, John?"

Cameron, having just witnessed the exchange, walks into the room in a bath robe. Her hair is still damp and she's holding her towel, which she promptly drops as she rounds on Sarah.

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General_Mazaki
General_Mazaki
71. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:25 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:25 AM EST
"John reluctantly turns to face his mom.

Sarah [very curiously]: "Isn't that... Cameron's shirt?"

John [looking down and noticing for the first time that he certainly is wearing her T-shirt... it says "If you are close enough to read this, back the hell off!"] "Oh, yeah... I really like it... Cam said I could borrow it."

Sarah [in motherly six sense mode]: "Is there something going on I should know about?"

John [bugged eyed]: "N...no. [smiling] Not a thing. Why?"

Sarah: "Now I know something's up... hmm... anyway, wash up. Derek and I'll make breakfast."

John heaves a sigh of relief as Sarah turns to go, and then relief turns to terror as she stops in mid-stride and turns around half-way.

Sarah: "Tell Cameron she shouldn't leave her bras lying around."

She turns around the rest of the way, with Cameron's undergarment in her fingers held like a coiled viper. And marches back towards John.

Sarah [all business]: "You have five seconds to start talking, John Connor."

John [backing away and stammering]: "It's nothing... really. She was doing a load of wash and must have dropped it."

Sarah [she is having none of it and continues to advance, incredulously]: "Uh huh... on top of your bookshelf. Five... four... three..."

John [blurts out]: "We were together last night! Is this what you wanted to hear?! Are you happy, now?"

Sarah [slapping him hard across the face]: "What have you done, John?"

Cameron, having just witnessed the exchange, walks into the room in a bath robe. Her hair is still damp and she's holding her towel, which she promptly drops as she rounds on Sarah.

more... "
I dunno, dude. I think John would be a little more defiant than that. He might attempt to pull the "none-of-your-business" crap. Then result to whining, and then finally crack.
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nonprodigal
nonprodigal
72. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:30 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:30 AM EST
"I still think that it would be cool if Cameron starts to love John and that goodness rubs off on her actons, and on the other side Catherine learning to mother Savannah has a good effect on her.

It changes the game... and it again establishes that these advanced models "get it" too. They begin to value life over death and question what they are about.

That's why I think it would be SOOOOOOOOO interesting if (as we've discussed on other threads) Cameron, herself, is able to reproduce to create a special type of hybrid with John (like a nanite enhanced version of an I-950), and she gets first hand knowledge of the miracle of birth. This would be towards the pinnacle of John and Cameron's relationship.

Cameron is shown every so often looking at her growing belly in wonder and running her hand over it as if trying to comprehend. She looks startled and calls to John. He comes over, concerned because of the look on her face.

John [rushing to her side]: "What is it? What's wrong, Cam?"

Cameron [looks up at John with wide-eyed shock]: "She moved John." [something wonderous comes over her face, and tears start rolling down her cheeks] "She... kicked. Our baby kicked."

John carefully places his hand on her stomach... and smiles as he feels his daughter move inside Cameron.

Cameron [the tears are flowing freely now, she fixes her gaze on John and he couldn't look away even if he tried]: "I understand, John. I understand... everything." "
and this is what i love about this wiki.

someone can say:: "OMG! do you think John and Cameron are gonna kiss?!?
and someone will say: "i don't think that JOHN CONNOR should EVER be romantic with a ROBOT
and it'll be followed up with "okay, now i'm gonna make them propagate"
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General_Mazaki
General_Mazaki
73. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:39 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:39 AM EST
"and this is what i love about this wiki.

someone can say:: "OMG! do you think John and Cameron are gonna kiss?!?
and someone will say: "i don't think that JOHN CONNOR should EVER be romantic with a ROBOT
and it'll be followed up with "okay, now i'm gonna make them propagate""
Heh heh. I honestly thing a romance between the two would be cool, provided it was real. No sex though. That would be just plain messed up.
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wolberine
wolberine
74. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:41 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:41 AM EST
"john and cameron will not kiss ever. especially now that Riley has opened that door"
dude..riley is not important in the story
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs
75. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:41 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:41 AM EST
"and this is what i love about this wiki.

someone can say:: "OMG! do you think John and Cameron are gonna kiss?!?
and someone will say: "i don't think that JOHN CONNOR should EVER be romantic with a ROBOT
and it'll be followed up with "okay, now i'm gonna make them propagate""
It's called can you top this?

=)
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Corwin08
Corwin08
76. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:49 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:49 AM EST
I'm willing to bet the last scene of the next ep will be Cam plopping down next to John, saying her now infamous line, then fade to black. And we'll never know what they talked about!

:)
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thatAcuraGuy
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77. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:54 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:54 AM EST
"John reluctantly turns to face his mom.

Sarah [very curiously]: "Isn't that... Cameron's shirt?"

John [looking down and noticing for the first time that he certainly is wearing her T-shirt... it says "If you are close enough to read this, back the hell off!"] "Oh, yeah... I really like it... Cam said I could borrow it."

Sarah [in motherly six sense mode]: "Is there something going on I should know about?"

John [bugged eyed]: "N...no. [smiling] Not a thing. Why?"

Sarah: "Now I know something's up... hmm... anyway, wash up. Derek and I'll make breakfast."

John heaves a sigh of relief as Sarah turns to go, and then relief turns to terror as she stops in mid-stride and turns around half-way.

Sarah: "Tell Cameron she shouldn't leave her bras lying around."

She turns around the rest of the way, with Cameron's undergarment in her fingers held like a coiled viper. And marches back towards John.

Sarah [all business]: "You have five seconds to start talking, John Connor."

John [backing away and stammering]: "It's nothing... really. She was doing a load of wash and must have dropped it."

Sarah [she is having none of it and continues to advance, incredulously]: "Uh huh... on top of your bookshelf. Five... four... three..."

John [blurts out]: "We were together last night! Is this what you wanted to hear?! Are you happy, now?"

Sarah [slapping him hard across the face]: "What have you done, John?"

Cameron, having just witnessed the exchange, walks into the room in a bath robe. Her hair is still damp and she's holding her towel, which she promptly drops as she rounds on Sarah.

more... "
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Veran
78. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:57 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:57 AM EST
"Heh heh. I honestly thing a romance between the two would be cool, provided it was real. No sex though. That would be just plain messed up."
I'm fine with the idea, so long as it is done tastefully, which of course it would be.

As for it being unnatural, I don't think so. Remember, Maz; she may not be human, but she is still a person. He'd be making love to Cameron, not just a machine.
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Veran
79. RE: "Sometimes, its lonely being John Connor"
Nov 4 2008, 11:59 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 4 2008, 11:59 AM EST
"I'm willing to bet the last scene of the next ep will be Cam plopping down next to John, saying her now infamous line, then fade to black. And we'll never know what they talked about!

:)"
You're a very optimistic chap, aren't you? :)
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