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Thecolours
Thecolours
100. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 2:07 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 2:07 PM EST
The final ratings for "The Tower..." were 5.34M. At least, that's what Mediaweek.com reported. Do you find this valuable?    

Gusar
101. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 2:15 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 2:15 PM EST
"The final ratings for "The Tower..." were 5.34M. At least, that's what Mediaweek.com reported. "
In the fast affiliate overnights yes, but in the finals The Tower was barely over 5 million.
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Joeroger1
Joeroger1
102. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 2:57 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 2:57 PM EST
I looked back through the "pifeedback" forums which seem to have accurate data and compiled a list. I believe I got the most recent numbers. Sorry, if the alignment makes it hard to read.

Air date View HH A18-49 Episode
09/08/2008 6.330 ???? 2.4/7 Samson and Delilah
09/15/2008 5.560 ???? 2.1/6 Automatic for the People
09/22/2008 5.887 3.8/6 2.3/6 Mousetrap
09/29/2008 5.374 3.4/5 2.0/5 Allison from Palmdale
10/06/2008 5.762 3.6/5 2.2/5 Goodbye to All That
10/13/2008 -n/a-
10/20/2008 5.024 3.0/5 2.0/5 Tower is Tall
10/27/2008 -n/a-
11/03/2008 5.168 3.2/5 2.0/5 Brothers of Nablus

Sources:
09/08/2008 http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/870100951/p/1
09/15/2008 http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/399108451/m/515103951
09/22/2008 http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/315109161/p/13
09/29/2008 http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/225108361/p/26
10/06/2008 http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/434105561/p/12
10/20/2008 http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/360103861/p/15
11/03/2008 http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/656103171/p/7
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AgentCook
AgentCook
103. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 3:04 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 3:04 PM EST
"In the fast affiliate overnights yes, but in the finals The Tower was barely over 5 million."
and if fox keeps it up with this monday and timeslot, expect more drops in ratings and viewers, except us die hards of course. Move it to Wednesdays for the millionth time, or were sunk.
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sugaki
104. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 5:50 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 5:50 PM EST
Honestly, my interest is waning in the show. I still watch it every Mon night, but it's just not holding my attention.

I can't stand RIley, and John Connor acting like a dumb John Bahm (sic?) is just not compelling for me. You can say it's to develop John Connor's character, and how he's coming to grips with his weighty responsibility and his desire to live a normal life, but at this point it's just beating the same point over the viewer's head. And it's boring.

They better kill off Riley in the next episode, to make the series darker. I'm sick of this sappy romance schtick. Agent Ellison's character seems shallow and boring, Catherine Weaver seems to going nowhere. At this point Summer Glau and Lena Headley are the only ones drawing me to the show. Cameron executing the kids was awesome, the rest was pretty bleh.
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DeusEx
DeusEx
105. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 5:53 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 5:53 PM EST
"I think Fox should consider moving T:SCC to FX, and put it in a 10 pm time slot. The dialouge could be more vulgar and darker. And the fight scenes could be more brutal. "
I like that idea!
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wolberine
wolberine
106. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 5:59 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 5:59 PM EST
tsc will stay or die on fox



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sidspappy
sidspappy
107. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 5:59 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 5:59 PM EST
Well, certain suggestions seem to have been taken to heart by the writers. Things like getting rid of the lame opening credits, to occasionally reinstating the Sarah voiceovers. Now, they need to listen to us about the season's story arc.

It's taking too long. The character arcs are taking too long to go anywhere. Right now is when we need to start building viewership. The pace in S2 is too slow and it needs to be picked up. More interesting plot twists need to be revealed - and soon. As was said, Ellison and Weaver's plot is moving along like a gutshot snail. Riley and Jesse? I find it hard to dredge up any kind of interest or sympathy for these two. John Baum's arc is moving along so slowly, it almost seems as though the only reason Thomas Dekker's there is to glower like Jack Nicholson and whine about his lost innocence. Where are the steps being taken to mold him into the hero we want him to become?

Again, as was said previously, the only real draw right now is watching Summer and Lena. However, the backsliding of Cameron's growth is frustrating, and I still don't feel Lena is being utilized enough this season.
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AgentCook
AgentCook
108. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 6:51 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 6:51 PM EST
"Well, certain suggestions seem to have been taken to heart by the writers. Things like getting rid of the lame opening credits, to occasionally reinstating the Sarah voiceovers. Now, they need to listen to us about the season's story arc.

It's taking too long. The character arcs are taking too long to go anywhere. Right now is when we need to start building viewership. The pace in S2 is too slow and it needs to be picked up. More interesting plot twists need to be revealed - and soon. As was said, Ellison and Weaver's plot is moving along like a gutshot snail. Riley and Jesse? I find it hard to dredge up any kind of interest or sympathy for these two. John Baum's arc is moving along so slowly, it almost seems as though the only reason Thomas Dekker's there is to glower like Jack Nicholson and whine about his lost innocence. Where are the steps being taken to mold him into the hero we want him to become?

Again, as was said previously, the only real draw right now is watching Summer and Lena. However, the backsliding of Cameron's growth is frustrating, and I still don't feel Lena is being utilized enough this season."
Your right man, this is getting very nerve degrading.
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mrt100
mrt100
109. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 6:52 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 6:52 PM EST
there is nothing worse then watching a PG rated version of terminator. I hope the show goes to the next logical step and shows more of what you expect a terminator to do, like "not Bitch Slaping some one out of a car"!!! If there was a real terminator that looked like cameron, I think I would switch sides. I would also build a terminator that looked like J Lo if there was enough liquid metal to make her butt. (just having fun guys)!!! Do you find this valuable?    
AgentCook
AgentCook
110. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 5 2008, 7:40 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2008, 7:40 PM EST
"there is nothing worse then watching a PG rated version of terminator. I hope the show goes to the next logical step and shows more of what you expect a terminator to do, like "not Bitch Slaping some one out of a car"!!! If there was a real terminator that looked like cameron, I think I would switch sides. I would also build a terminator that looked like J Lo if there was enough liquid metal to make her butt. (just having fun guys)!!!"
LOL, I dont think there will be enough liquid metal for that fine ass!!!
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Atlas98
Atlas98
111. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 6 2008, 12:49 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2008, 12:49 AM EST
"I think Fox should consider moving T:SCC to FX, and put it in a 10 pm time slot. The dialouge could be more vulgar and darker. And the fight scenes could be more brutal. "
I'll second that idea...and third it as well!
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TheDamnedStandReady
TheDamnedStandReady
112. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 6 2008, 1:39 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2008, 1:39 AM EST
" Agent Ellison's character seems shallow and boring, Catherine Weaver seems to going nowhere. "
WHAT??????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Didn't you see the last episode?????!!!!
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TheDamnedStandReady
TheDamnedStandReady
113. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 6 2008, 1:41 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2008, 1:41 AM EST
"there is nothing worse then watching a PG rated version of terminator. I hope the show goes to the next logical step and shows more of what you expect a terminator to do, like "not Bitch Slaping some one out of a car"!!! If there was a real terminator that looked like cameron, I think I would switch sides. I would also build a terminator that looked like J Lo if there was enough liquid metal to make her butt. (just having fun guys)!!!"
Technically, it's rated TV-14.

Secondly, didn't you see the last part of the last episode in which Cameron gunned down all those people? She didn't just "bitch slap someone out of a car."

Thirdly, there's only so much you can do with BROADCAST Television. This is Fox, not HBO. You can only go so far in terms of content - especially now that it's on at 8:00 PM.

Honestly you guys....
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TheDamnedStandReady
TheDamnedStandReady
114. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Nov 6 2008, 1:43 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2008, 1:43 AM EST
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They better kill off Riley in the next episode, to make the series darker. I"
Don't get your hopes up...
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summerglau4ever
summerglau4ever
115. RE: Overnights Not Looking Good for TSCC
Dec 30 2008, 10:23 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 30 2008, 10:23 AM EST
"there is nothing worse then watching a PG rated version of terminator. I hope the show goes to the next logical step and shows more of what you expect a terminator to do, like "not Bitch Slaping some one out of a car"!!! If there was a real terminator that looked like cameron, I think I would switch sides. I would also build a terminator that looked like J Lo if there was enough liquid metal to make her butt. (just having fun guys)!!!"
What the fuck?! This show is awsome. If you dont like it, then get of the forums.
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