"I agree with HK, A big part of his attitude towards Cameron was of the fact that she called out his feelings, but also because she said he couldnt be trusted, remember in AMFTP when he said "I dont have to answer to anyone" "not even you".. I still think he is kinda hurt by all that, but for the love of god, get over it already."

"That being said, we have to accept the fact that we are watching a SciFi program, and that means that sometimes, improbable, unlikely, and even impossible things are going to happen. It would be a pretty boring SciFi show if everything that happend was completely logical and totally believable ."

"She can physically feel as we feel: all it is is nerve endings (on our skin for example) sending messages to our brains which we then interpret (pain, pleasure, heat, cold, etc.) What Cameron doesn't possess is the reflex reactions we do. For instance, when we touch something hot, we recoil because we register pain. She doesn't suffer the pain, but she interprets it as "not good" because of the damage it can incur and that's why she would be inclined to recoil. Think back to when we're kids and physical pain is sufficient to elicit tears; we'd fall, skin a knee and cry because of the pain. As we get older, pain no longer makes us cry (or at least it takes a higher degree to do so.) Cameron has the ability to cry, but only as a mechanism she'd employ to pass for human, not as a reflex to physical or emotional stimuli like us.

Keep in mind, this is all I think we CAN know with the information given to us so far by the writers. As the show develops, things will probably change. The beauty is how the writers will bridge the gap between her being able to physically feel and whether or not she will eventually be able to emotionally feel.

When Cameron says "I can't let anything happen to him" we want to believe it's her devotion to him that's the cause but with what we know so far, it's just her fear of failing in her mission to protect John that's responsible. Maybe there's more. Maybe she has evolved further than she lets on and only Future John can attest to that. We can theorize all day, but I find it best to stick to what we know so far when interpreting things from the show. Interpreting and speculating are two different things."

"Yes, he is especially broody and moody around Cam, not nearly the gusto of JC from T2. Perhaps, if she said she could feel pleasure too, then he'd be more open to her.

What kills me about that scene is JC says, "I know you don't have emotions yet..." What are the writers doing? Are they writing off Allison from Palmdale like that episode never existed? How did Cromartie get that picture of Cam then? How did he figure out that her chip was damaged? Wasn't John stunned when he saw Cam laughing, playing, and enjoying herself at the halfway house?

JC's lack of inquistitiveness is unfathomable. Anyone would be asking Cam about that no matter what the circumstance. Is he that hurt because she said he can't be trusted that his brains no longer work? Maybe he needs a chip in the head."

"Ajhil: you obviously know what you are talking about. Science Fiction in the classic sense does remain within the boundaries of science. what we see today is often blended with Science Fantasy which uses purely hypothetical and fanciful concepts. I do expect a certain amount a realism in my SF and TSCC is no exception. Before I go on let me state some of my basic thoughts.
1: Cameron is a machine. Cameron is a Terminator she has an artificial edo-skeleton covered in flesh (possibility of some inner organs) for a body. Her brain is a computer chip. these facts will never change.
2: It is conceivable for science to develop a processor that functions like the human brain. it is also conceivable that if this processor were to be powerful enough it could host a self aware consciousness of equal if not greater intelligence than our own.
These two basic concepts, I believe, are within the boundaries of Science Fiction. We go beyond those boundaries when we begin to start ask questions like:
1: Can this sentient machine feel emotions?
2: is this machine a "person" (note: did not use term "Human")
3: If it can feel how does it experience those emotions?
4: does it have a soul?
When we start asking these questions we are venturing into the realm of Science Fantasy, or even psychology and religion. These things are acceptable to me as long as it is done well.
I do think that it is a possibility for Cameron to become her own person capable of feeling emotions and even able to love.in her own way. I hope that she will become he own unique person and be capable of true emotion. I hope she will form a close relationship with John. I will be glad to clarify my position to any one."

"No need to clarify, you've expressed yourself very cogently. I agree with everything you've said, except I'm not so sold on the fantasy assumption that Cameron will (essentially magically) develop human type emotions. In fact, as we were discussing on my recently hi-jacked thread, I find it more interesting, even in some ways more dramatic, to speculate if and how John might have a relationship with a non-emotional robot that's fantastically adept at emulating emotional responses. To each his own, I guess. Thanks for your thoughts. "