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t5000 |
20. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:11 AM EST
""She can re-build him.........she has the technology"yes he will be the "bionic man" LOL Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
21. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:14 AM EST
"I wonder if we're going to see Cromatie 3.0? New and improved, smarter than ever. Garret did say in a interview that Cromartie goes through a personality change. Well, here it is. Maybe he will be the new villian after the Connors take down Weaver. "well if she does give life to cromarties body, he will be different, and hopefully even smarter, and more human acting, it would be not good if he were the same as befrore. IO heard garret was off the show , but only time will tell. Do you find this valuable? |
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22. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:18 AM EST
"I think it's about time we were introduced to a really sinister villain. Someone whom everyone loves to hate. The kind of somebody who would steal candy from a baby, but also someone so evil that we become terrified for whoever is within proximity. This person also needs to be dangerous because of guile, not just brawn (Chromartie 2.0's downfall). It might be stretching it a little, but I would even go as far as saying it would be good if this villain wasn't as strong as Chromartie, so John and Sarah can actually fight him and close to killing him on numerous occasions, and vice-versa."yes,,,a really sinister villain. Someone whom everyone loves to hate, would be great, I dont like villiains that are all bad or sleazy, it is better if there is also something to like about them. Cromartie didnt have enough personality to be likable, although many of us did like him to some degree, and weaver , could be if she also had more personality, I sort of like her also. but both are lacking something to be a great villian. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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t5000 |
23. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:30 AM EST
"Most of your posts are right on the money, but you may be wrong here. The general consensus seems to be that the contortionist Terminator was there to protect Sherman, not kill him. If so, then I would assume that Catherine is from an "earlier" version of the future, and hence doesn't have the same understanding of the value of Sherman. It's only after Catherine accidentally befriends Sherman that he becomes important.okay are u saying she will remotely connect the turk to cromartie, so he can remotely control and experience things, ?? because right now the turk is some harddrives in a big case, would be hard to put in cromarties body that way. but I agree if turk was in a body, he would allow its mind to grow further. I also said that weaver could be skynet, andj if skynet was put / downloaded into a body and came back into time as weaver , then it would change and grow to be a different skynet than the one left in the future. Also, in the case of "Cromarty" saving Ellison from the Ellison-Terminator, I can't escape the feeling that "Cromarty" was Weaver in disguise. It's a possibility that cannot be discounted........... this could be hopefully we will find out soon, and also I wonder what happened to E. twins body?? and if it was weaver she would have had E. Twin , so wouldnt really need cromartys body?? Catherine accidentally befriends Sherman that he becomes important.... ...I agree with this, but then again LOL he was on the wall in ep 2x01 before she met him 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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24. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:32 AM EST
"yes,,,a really sinister villain. Someone whom everyone loves to hate, would be great, I dont like villiains that are all bad or sleazy, it is better if there is also something to like about them.You have a point, I guess all the best villains are somewhat likable. The word I should have used is "scheming." I think Battlestar Galactica does this well... Gaius Baltar anyone? Same with season 1 of Prison Break... Theodore Bagwell is incredible. Season 1 of Heroes... Sylar was pretty nasty. And I hate to bring it up, but I think the best of all of them is the short bug-eyed leader of the "Others" camp. He was sinister. I also agree that Chromartie and Weaver are missing *some* element that makes them a really good villain.... They are just mysterious. It's too bad about Garret. Like everyone, I inexplicably started liking his character. Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
25. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:33 AM EST
"I haven't made any speculations about what Weaver will do with the body. There's nothing to suggest anything contrary to what you've just laid out. In fact, I agree with you that allowing the Turk access to the senses of Chromartie's body would be an opportunity for 'mental growth.' What I'm unsure about is whether it's a good idea from Weaver's point of view to do this. If the Turk gets out of hand (like all children do sometimes) will she be able to control it?youre right ... if we go by movie lore, then they do have to touch it first, I forgot that.. so either josh and writers also forgot this, or it wasnt weave , it was cromartie. Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
26. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:47 AM EST
"No. The only real possibilities are that the contortionist Terminator was there to kill Sherman, to prevent him from helping John avoid suicide, or to kill John because Skynet somehow knew he had an appointment that day. Your theory of the contortionist Termi protecting Sherman is not likely. Catherine could have easily protected Sherman because she needed Sherman, and Skynet in the future never told Catherine the Connors might harm Sherman."I have to agree with u as why would someone send it to protect sherman , because he was in no danger , catherine was using him to help her , and john wanted to keep seeing him and sarah decided he wasnt a threat. so he doesnt appear to be in any danger at this point in time. but it does make sense that she was there to "kill" john or dr sherman 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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27. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 24 2008, 12:03 AM EST
"I have to agree with u as why would someone send it to protect sherman , because he was in no danger , catherine was using him to help her , and john wanted to keep seeing him and sarah decided he wasnt a threat.Thanks. Its good to bounce this stuff off the group here. I want to make sure I've remembered key scenes correctly. Also, its interesting to see if we can guess where the writers are going with all this. I read on a Fox blog that they are currently, as of today, finishing up shooting episode 16 (of 22 total), so the writers haven't completely decided what to do with all these plotlines yet. I suppose the producer gets to weed out any bad plotlines some writers come up with. Seems to be that kind of give and take between writers and the executive staff for quality control purposes. And the big question is if the TSCC writers are trying to tie in with the big new Christian Bale Terminator movie being released in May 2009. Anybody know if TSCC will fuse with the new movie nicely? Do you find this valuable? |
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28. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 24 2008, 12:07 AM EST
"I was thinking and maybe CW is going to build a new Terminator or cyborg , one that would "cross against the light" ??yes Do you find this valuable? |
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29. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 24 2008, 10:02 AM EST
" okay are u saying she will remotely connect the turk to cromartie, so he can remotely control and experience things, ??I'm expecting that Weaver will connect the Turk to Cromarty's body wirelessly. I suspect this will be the second stage in Skynet's development, evolving from a glorified chess computer to a sentient robot. I'm guessing the third stage will bring Savannah into the mix. And I'm guessing a much later stage, long after Judgment-Day, will replace Cromarty with a T1001 (still remotely controlled.) Do you find this valuable? |
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30. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 24 2008, 10:22 AM EST
"No. The only real possibilities are that the contortionist Terminator was there to kill Sherman, to prevent him from helping John avoid suicide, or to kill John because Skynet somehow knew he had an appointment that day. Your theory of the contortionist Termi protecting Sherman is not likely. Catherine could have easily protected Sherman because she needed Sherman, and Skynet in the future never told Catherine the Connors might harm Sherman."Why did the contortionist kill Sherman's receptionist, if not to take her place? Her behavior is consistent with someone sent to protect Sherman. Catherine doesn't realize Sherman's importance, yet. However, he is important to the Skynet that will come from this present. Someone in the future will know of the importance of Sherman and will send a contortionist back in time to protect him. I'm guessing the responsible person is Catherine Weaver, when she's older. Do you find this valuable? |
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31. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 24 2008, 10:31 AM EST
"You also said :Don't forget that Catherine Weaver is from the future. She is just inches away from touching Cromarty at the moment, as he is in the trunk of the car. And so, she could have already lived through a similar present once before and already touched Cromarty. The other thing is that I'm willing to bet that Catherine is fundamentally different from the T-1000 in the movie, in a fairly profound way. Evidence: Catherine is sadistic (e.g., when she killed the nuclear power plant guy) and seems better able to pass for human. The T-1000 in the movie did not manage any companies. I'm not so sure Catherine needs to touch people to mimic them. Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
32. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 25 2008, 5:14 AM EST
"Most of your posts are right on the money, but you may be wrong here. The general consensus seems to be that the contortionist Terminator was there to protect Sherman, not kill him. If so, then I would assume that Catherine is from an "earlier" version of the future, and hence doesn't have the same understanding of the value of Sherman. It's only after Catherine accidentally befriends Sherman that he becomes important.wel final cylon u were right she did hook up turk to cromarties body, and I was right , they had a cable hooked up to him so he isnt mobile, I thought maybe they would have a wireless connection. and they still need a chip/terminator cpu, to download the turk from the server farm to cromarty. then he would be able to utilize his new body. I have another theory about john being the one to send weaver back , to create a better "good"skynet that wouldnt harm humans, that would have ethics and morals, but I also think that catherine will make mistakes and something will go wrong. I no longer think that weaver is skynet, and I think she is "trying "to do good things, but doesnt understand some things like when she said she wasnt qualified to teach the turk and she seems to want a human to teach it. Do you find this valuable? |
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33. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 25 2008, 7:14 AM EST
"(FinalCylon wrote:)So, it's time for you guys to reexamine the rest of your beliefs. Who saved Ellison from the Ellison Terminator? Who is Catherine Weaver? What is Skynet? Do you find this valuable? |
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34. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 25 2008, 1:03 PM EST
"Why did the contortionist kill Sherman's receptionist, if not to take her place? Her behavior is consistent with someone sent to protect Sherman."One thing I want to point out about that receptionist pretzelbot is that she was sent in as a TEMPORARY employee replacement for the regular receptionist that she killed. I don't think she was meant to stick around for very long. Also she didn't seem especially advanced or like a model that could easily pass for any significant length of time. In fact, she was very machine-like, mechanical and odd. Do you find this valuable? |
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35. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 25 2008, 1:13 PM EST
"One thing I want to point out about that receptionist pretzelbot is that she was sent in as a TEMPORARY employee replacement for the regular receptionist that she killed. I don't think she was meant to stick around for very long. Also she didn't seem especially advanced or like a model that could easily pass for any significant length of time. In fact, she was very machine-like, mechanical and odd."Her entire mission seemed to be assassination, not infiltration. She was sent to make Dr. Sherman dead, and then get out of histories way like with the trip8 futility attempting to dig his way out of a nuclear bomb shelter. Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
36. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Dec 20 2008, 6:13 AM EST
WELL NOW AFTER EP 2X13 earthlings, we see that john henry could be a new terminator. as xynoxx said, JH lied about he taught himself chess ! or he is not the turk,as the turk already knew how to play chess. JH could have a t-888 chip in his head,and the wires are just to make it look like he is imobile.?it could be just to get ellison to teach him? Do you find this valuable? |
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TerminTatorTot |
37. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Dec 20 2008, 5:03 PM EST
"WELL NOW AFTER EP 2X13 earthlings, we see that john henry could be a new terminator. as xynoxx said, JH lied about he taught himself chess ! or he is not the turk,as the turk already knew how to play chess. JH could have a t-888 chip in his head,and the wires are just to make it look like he is imobile.?A lot of speculation there. We don't know yet if any of that is true. All I can say is that it does appeer that Catherine Weaver is interested in an ethical Terminator using Ellison to teach Babylon John Henry, and Cromartie's main chip was destroyed by Sarah with a gun butt. I still say CW is interested in a new future that values humans instead of Skynet which wants to exterminate them. That said, the writers could try to throw us a curve at any time. Do you find this valuable? |
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38. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Dec 21 2008, 3:42 PM EST
I think that she might work with Henry to build one :) sounds like a plan hey :)
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39. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Dec 21 2008, 3:44 PM EST
"I think that she might work with Henry to build one :) sounds like a plan hey :)"we have to wait untill next year feb? Do you find this valuable? |