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t5000 |
Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 20 2008, 2:31 AM EST
I was thinking and maybe CW is going to build a new Terminator or cyborg , one that would "cross against the light" ??from previews it showed new chips that are smaller and maybe more sophisticated than the cpu 's cromartie and cameron have. they said chips would fit on end of a finger , and 3 white dots were shown in a hand. so maybe the 3 dots are the 3 new chips? the new model may even have emotions, and would be the start of a race of cyborgs that could rule humans instead of wiping them out. I think she just wanted the body of a t-888 as it was ready to go , just needing a better chip to make it more like a smart human only ...smarter I think it would be interesting if she does create a new model of terminators, I dont think she thinks much of the regular t-888 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?
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scud133 |
1. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 20 2008, 3:46 PM EST
certainly looks like CW is on that path. She actually doesn't even have to do anything; she can give the skeleton to her "team" and let them find a way to combine the Turk with Chromartie, and then do it again, over and over.And she has a robot army, and the show is over. Nice going, Ellison.... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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EuphoricAgony |
2. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 20 2008, 3:58 PM EST
I think CW isn't like most Terminators She is far more dangerous. If it doesn't work for you a Good Terminator is a Dead Terminator! 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
TerminTatorTot |
3. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 20 2008, 9:41 PM EST
Do you think Catherine is trying to create new Terminators to defeat Skynet and embrace the humans, or is she just trying to replace Skynet with a similar malevolent regime?
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logansean |
4. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 20 2008, 10:38 PM EST
"Do you think Catherine is trying to create new Terminators to defeat Skynet and embrace the humans, or is she just trying to replace Skynet with a similar malevolent regime?"Neither. I think she's creating a cyborg capable of truly ensuring that SkyNet's existence, or rather, that cyborgs prevail in the future in whatever form. This is a SkyNet objective, not a strategy in opposition to its goals. As we have seen, SkyNet can have many objectives that seem to work in opposition. The funny thing is that they all have the same goal. SkyNet is willing to throw a bunch of stuff on the wall to see what sticks. It doesn't care which one prevails, as long as cyborgs ultimately prevails. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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t5000 |
5. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 21 2008, 3:00 AM EST
"Do you think Catherine is trying to create new Terminators to defeat Skynet and embrace the humans, or is she just trying to replace Skynet with a similar malevolent regime?"good question, I think she just trying to replace Skynet , with what I am not sure it seems she is not exactly nice but not real evil either. I think she has a plan to replace the old sknet though as it has been ineffective, and wrong, and is now outdated. The turk is not the same as what became skynet before, and the machines and stratigies of old skynet are crude compared to what I think she may do. I think she is not working to create a new sknet that would control her , but rather a skynet she could use , to achieve her goal of total control of the planet. I dont think she sees using nuclear weapons as a good way of eliminating humans as it would destroy the planet as well . In the future if skynet had won what would it rule? ... a wasteland, and some rather stupid and boring machines. some her have asked what would skynet do if it won, and it depends on how and what you win. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 21 2008, 7:49 AM EST
15000, I agree with you. The dynamics may have changed but the end goal is still the same. They have changed the course of history, so she is responding to that change, but I think not all of the actors skynet originally put in place have changed. So, it's a battle to know whose crucial now and whose not. In the old history, maybe the young Fishler was, but in this one, he's just a decoy allowing the older one to do the main job. I think its it the same thing for Derek's girl that he is paling around with. I think she is a decoy - throw him a few real bones, but get him to leave the main ones alone to go one to complete their mission. She is in a sense a baddie leading him astray and a baddie in the worse sense as he trusts her. Is weaver going to replace skynet, if skynet is ultimately a form of Cameron; then Weaver is her antithesis.
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7. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 21 2008, 8:02 AM EST
i think so,she will build a stronger SkyNet with Cromartie brain and we can surprise of what she can do with Ellison !
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TerminTatorTot |
8. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 12:08 AM EST
For those who think Catherine is working with Skynet, there have been clues to the contrary. For example, in the Tower is Tall... episode, the contortionist Terminator came to kill Sherman, something Catherine could have done herself at any time, but she hasn't. That means Skynet's agenda is not Catherine's.
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T-1976 |
9. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 12:19 AM EST
"She can re-build him.........she has the technology" Do you find this valuable? |
Thecolours |
10. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 12:57 AM EST
I wonder if we're going to see Cromatie 3.0? New and improved, smarter than ever. Garret did say in a interview that Cromartie goes through a personality change. Well, here it is. Maybe he will be the new villian after the Connors take down Weaver.
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rref |
11. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 1:27 AM EST
"I wonder if we're going to see Cromatie 3.0? New and improved, smarter than ever. Garret did say in a interview that Cromartie goes through a personality change. Well, here it is. Maybe he will be the new villian after the Connors take down Weaver. "I think it's about time we were introduced to a really sinister villain. Someone whom everyone loves to hate. The kind of somebody who would steal candy from a baby, but also someone so evil that we become terrified for whoever is within proximity. This person also needs to be dangerous because of guile, not just brawn (Chromartie 2.0's downfall). It might be stretching it a little, but I would even go as far as saying it would be good if this villain wasn't as strong as Chromartie, so John and Sarah can actually fight him and close to killing him on numerous occasions, and vice-versa. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Thecolours |
12. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 1:32 AM EST
"I think it's about time we were introduced to a really sinister villain. Someone whom everyone loves to hate. The kind of somebody who would steal candy from a baby, but also someone so evil that we become terrified for whoever is within proximity. This person also needs to be dangerous because of guile, not just brawn (Chromartie 2.0's downfall). It might be stretching it a little, but I would even go as far as saying it would be good if this villain wasn't as strong as Chromartie, so John and Sarah can actually fight him and close to killing him on numerous occasions, and vice-versa."I think it would be cool if they made Cromatie 3.0 a arch-villian like in the old comic-books. But, I have a feeling a lot of people would be like "WTF! I thought this guy died. I can't believe their bringing him back." Garret's a great actor I like to see more of him on T:SCC. Do you find this valuable? |
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13. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 2:29 AM EST
"For those who think Catherine is working with Skynet, there have been clues to the contrary. For example, in the Tower is Tall... episode, the contortionist Terminator came to kill Sherman, something Catherine could have done herself at any time, but she hasn't. That means Skynet's agenda is not Catherine's."Most of your posts are right on the money, but you may be wrong here. The general consensus seems to be that the contortionist Terminator was there to protect Sherman, not kill him. If so, then I would assume that Catherine is from an "earlier" version of the future, and hence doesn't have the same understanding of the value of Sherman. It's only after Catherine accidentally befriends Sherman that he becomes important. Also, in the case of "Cromarty" saving Ellison from the Ellison-Terminator, I can't escape the feeling that "Cromarty" was Weaver in disguise. It's a possibility that cannot be discounted. I'm with the CuthertAllGood guy who theorized that Weaver *IS* Skynet. I don't know it for sure, but it seems plausible. If it's true, then Weaver is raising a baby version of herself. Now, to the subject of this thread, I believe Catherine is listening to Sherman, who said the Turk is bored. The Turk is a highly intelligent mind trapped inside a "body" that can only play chess and see static images. As a result, its mind is only that of a small child. Having become bored, its progress has stalled. So, I think Catherine will connect the Turk to Cromarty's body to give the Turk access to sight, sound, smell, and the rest of the Terminator chassis' senses. This will allow its mind to grow further. Now, I've said this before on this board, and you guys disagreed that this will happen. If it does come to pass, then perhaps you should reexamine the rest of your beliefs. If it doesn't come to pass, I'll reexamine mine. :-) 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 2:48 AM EST
"Most of your posts are right on the money, but you may be wrong here. The general consensus seems to be that the contortionist Terminator was there to protect Sherman, not kill him. If so, then I would assume that Catherine is from an "earlier" version of the future, and hence doesn't have the same understanding of the value of Sherman. It's only after Catherine accidentally befriends Sherman that he becomes important.I haven't made any speculations about what Weaver will do with the body. There's nothing to suggest anything contrary to what you've just laid out. In fact, I agree with you that allowing the Turk access to the senses of Chromartie's body would be an opportunity for 'mental growth.' What I'm unsure about is whether it's a good idea from Weaver's point of view to do this. If the Turk gets out of hand (like all children do sometimes) will she be able to control it? You also said : "I can't escape the feeling that "Cromarty" was Weaver in disguise." I like this theory a lot, but can you clear something up for me? Don't the T-1000 series models have to *touch* the thing they are imitating? Even if Weaver is different and she doesn't have to, did something happen in the show that let her know what Chromartie looked like? Did she know who Chromartie was impersonating? Do you find this valuable? |
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TerminTatorTot |
15. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 6:46 PM EST
"from FinalCylon:...The general consensus seems to be that the contortionist Terminator was there to protect Sherman, not kill him. ......"No. The only real possibilities are that the contortionist Terminator was there to kill Sherman, to prevent him from helping John avoid suicide, or to kill John because Skynet somehow knew he had an appointment that day. Your theory of the contortionist Termi protecting Sherman is not likely. Catherine could have easily protected Sherman because she needed Sherman, and Skynet in the future never told Catherine the Connors might harm Sherman. Do you find this valuable? |
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TerminTatorTot |
16. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 22 2008, 6:52 PM EST
"from FinalCylon: So, I think Catherine will connect the Turk to Cromarty's body to give the Turk access to sight, sound, smell, and the rest of the Terminator chassis' senses. This will allow its mind to grow further. Now, I've said this before on this board, and you guys disagreed that this will happen."Connecting Cromartie to the Turk doesn't show Catherine is working for Skynet. It just shows she is trying to create a better Terminator, either to use to create a better Termi army to defeat Skynet, and she may even join with the humans in a friendly way. I thought it was already clear that Catherine has her own agenda apart from Skynet's agenda, but I'm not sure if Catherine will also be friendly with the humans. Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
17. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:06 AM EST
"15000, I agree with you. The dynamics may have changed but the end goal is still the same. They have changed the course of history, so she is responding to that change, but I think not all of the actors skynet originally put in place have changed. So, it's a battle to know whose crucial now and whose not. In the old history, maybe the young Fishler was, but in this one, he's just a decoy allowing the older one to do the main job. I think its it the same thing for Derek's girl that he is paling around with. I think she is a decoy - throw him a few real bones, but get him to leave the main ones alone to go one to complete their mission. She is in a sense a baddie leading him astray and a baddie in the worse sense as he trusts her. Is weaver going to replace skynet, if skynet is ultimately a form of Cameron; then Weaver is her antithesis."well not many responses, but some good ones! dreamintu u make some good points,, like now "different "people are important to eliminate or protect, as things change. also what u say about jesse/Derek's girl,leading him astray , keeping him from doing what he should . Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
18. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:07 AM EST
"i think so,she will build a stronger SkyNet with Cromartie brain and we can surprise of what she can do with Ellison !"if she is building a new skynet, it will defintely be a"stronger "one. Do you find this valuable? |
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t5000 |
19. RE: Is C. Weaver going to build a all new terminator?
Nov 23 2008, 6:10 AM EST
"For those who think Catherine is working with Skynet, there have been clues to the contrary. For example, in the Tower is Tall... episode, the contortionist Terminator came to kill Sherman, something Catherine could have done herself at any time, but she hasn't. That means Skynet's agenda is not Catherine's."good point , but we dont know who really sent that terminator, or if maybe she was there to protect sherman. also I think it is possible she was there to kill john ?? he was in office that day. Do you find this valuable? |
