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epo3fold
20. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 3:37 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 3:37 PM EST
You know, before I saw T3, I was very disappointed that John Connor would not be played by Eddie Furlong, being he did an excellent job on T2. With that being said, Nick Stahl came out of almost nowhere (unless you count his role in Disturbing Behavior) and did a great job as well. I don't think Furlong could have done such a good job of playing a more grown up part of John Connor. I do agree with you on the fact that all of the actors on the series do a great job, and even though I am more than satisfied with the series, I am glad they quit "playing" with the point that Cameron is a robot, though my favorite line through the whole series is : (John) I call shotgun (Cameron) I call 9mm. lmao I really believe, though, that T3 will be hard to top, especially with Arnold out of the way. Does anyone know if they have the same writers on board for Salvation? 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
DeusEx
DeusEx
21. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 3:50 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 3:50 PM EST
" Does anyone know if they have the same writers on board for Salvation?"
The most hopeful thing I have seen for T4 is this:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/26/dark-knight-writer-jonathan-nolan-confirmed-as-lead-writer-of-terminator-salvation/

Jonathan Nolan! He did some of the screenwriting for "The Prestige", and "Memento".

The Prestige was awesome. Memento...well that was quite simply the best movie ever made.

I don't know about McG, because I hated the Charlies Angles flicks, but with Nolan on board I have alot of confidence in the screenplay. Now I am looking forward to the movie. If only...if only it could have branched off TSCC somehow...alas!
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demonking5
demonking5
22. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 3:57 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 3:57 PM EST
fair enough points guys/girls i am just glad my topic got some replies usually i suck trying to do new posts.

As for me watching the prestige i have and i thought it was probably the worst film i have ever seen bales acting was terrible he mumbles through his lines and lacks any execution when delivering them.
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MyImmortal
MyImmortal
23. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 4:05 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 4:05 PM EST
I would have rather seen Nick Stahl come back and portray John Connor for a second film.

I don't agree with Christian Bale being John Connor, but he has that rugged and tough look he can pull off like he did the in the movie Reign of Fire. Except this time he won't be hiding from dragons, but Terminators. :)
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jrockblast
jrockblast
24. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 4:06 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 4:06 PM EST
"fair enough points guys/girls i am just glad my topic got some replies usually i suck trying to do new posts.

As for me watching the prestige i have and i thought it was probably the worst film i have ever seen bales acting was terrible he mumbles through his lines and lacks any execution when delivering them."
I hope you have plenty of oscars to back up ur mouth
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demonking5
demonking5
25. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 4:22 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 4:22 PM EST
that's rather rude to say the least its simply my opinion on the man. fair enough if you like the man great go have a party with him make babies with him wise ass.

By the way he has not won any Oscars only been nominated for them.
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LarryDAB
26. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 4:25 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 4:25 PM EST
"why in the hell do film directors hire terrible cast members to do the films i mean Christian Bale as John connor is probably the worst casting mistake in the history of movie making. The man has no acting talent which become's very clear in the new batman movies. Why not wait a while to see how the show does then when that has finished or been cancelled give the actors in that show a chance to shine in a movie that could finish it off. All of the cast on this show are amazing give theme a chance to show it instead of this.

Can you actually imagine a casting conversation it would go like this" em yes i think they are indeed doing a show yes is very good the fans love it but that does not matter we have to have people with star quality like Christian bale(was nothing before his did batman and still sucks) like Moon Bloodgood( an actress of such power that she has only been in one film and one terrible show).""
I almost hate to say this but I will most likely not bother paying to see Salvation in the movie theaters. I plan to wait for the DVD and then maybe view it. I am so enthused with the storyline of the Sarah Connor Chronicles (perhaps different timeline as well) that the advent of this new movie does nothing for me.

Lena, Summer, Thomas and Brian have created a captivating story right here on FOX, and I have absolutely no interest in something that goes off on a tangent.

I would offer the comparison between the CW series Smallville with Tom Welling translating the Clark Kent character (that he now owns as far as I am concerned). The come out with this “Superman Returns” P.O.S. in 2006 with girly-man GQ model look-alike Brandon Routh in the title role. What the hell????

Demonking5, like you and others have mentioned about Christian Bale, the guy can’t act. They hired him for his face. Tom Welling (about the same age but in much better shape then Routh) would have been all over that role.

There now. . . I suddenly feel better.

Adios, Larry -- Central Floridays
“I aim to misbehave . . .”
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jodypody
27. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 4:33 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 4:33 PM EST
I think Christian Bale is a wonderful choice because I've loved what he's done as Batman.

My big worry is about what they might do to John Connor in T-4. The spoiler rumor I've read online makes me wonder if that is the right way to go with mythology. At least it will definitely motivate a Sarah Connor to save her son from such a future! Yikes!
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AverageJo
AverageJo
28. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 4:42 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 4:42 PM EST
"I think Bale was a great choice for John Connor. This saga needs to grow after disintegrating into a Schwarzenegger-fest and Bale is one of the hottest actors in Hollywood right now. He's just the type of star power this movie needs to get people into theaters next summer. If the movie does well financially, it means more Terminator-inspired material. That's good for us fans no matter how you slice it."
Agree completely, THX-1138, with a top-of-his-game star like Bale on board, T4's chances of success are greatly increased. If T4 turns into a hit summer movie, Fox will be reluctant to kill off the T:SCC franchise - we will probably get a season 3 and maybe even 4.

BTW, aside from the business aspect, Bale is a first-rate choice anyway. Seems to specialize in dark roles (The Machinist, Rescue Dawn) and is perfectly suited to playing the adult John Conner.
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demonking5
demonking5
29. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 4:45 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 4:45 PM EST
guys you do know that bale is not playing connor but a machine named marcus who takes connors face to help fake that he is still alive? 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

LarryDAB
30. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 4:54 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 4:54 PM EST
"guys you do know that bale is not playing connor but a machine named marcus who takes connors face to help fake that he is still alive?"
Like I have already said: “I have absolutely no interest in something that goes off on a tangent.” I will not bother to see it.

“. . .John Connor is barely in the movie. Turns out that it’s true, and that yes, John Connor is barely in the movie. Over the last week I have been gathering some details about Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins, and while I am trying to steer clear of serious spoiler material, people who don’t want to know anything about this movie should step away from the computer right now.
John Connor is not the main character of Terminator 4; that character is someone named Marcus. Marcus was put ‘out of commission’ before the nuclear holocaust on Judgment Day and he wakes up about 15 years before the future we see in the original Terminator films, which puts the movie at about 2015 or so. Marcus is a bad ass - think along the lines of Riddick - and what he finds is a blasted world filled with horror. Radiation poisoning, starvation, rampant jaywalking - all the things you expect post-apocalypse. There’s also John Connor, who is trying to build a utopian society while running the human resistance.Connor’s role is apparently bigger in the second film; whoever they hire for Marcus (my understanding is that the part is not yet cast) will be around for all three films. Terminator 4 is going to be the most male-centric of all the Terminator films, but there is a butt busting female character by the name of Blair, a pilot for the human resistance.

Ref. http://christian-bale.org/archives/362



Adios, Larry -- Central Floridays
“I aim to misbehave . . .”

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epo3fold
31. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 8:33 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 8:33 PM EST
re: If T4 turns into a hit summer movie, Fox will be reluctant to kill off the T:SCC franchise - we will probably get a season 3 and maybe even 4.

They already have signed for a season 3. Yay to Fox for actually keeping around another great show! Please don't screw this up like you did Tru Calling, Dark Angel, Brimstone, Stacked, Twilight Zone, Night Stalker (I think it was a Fox show), Ghost Stories, Point Pleasant, and more shows that were canceled for absolutely no reason. Ok, most people hated Stacked. I loved it.
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sephiroth86
sephiroth86
32. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 6 2008, 2:09 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 2:09 AM EST
at least they didn't pick Keanu Reeves :)
'' what if I can't, what if I fail''
Pleeeaase :b
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epo3fold
33. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 6 2008, 8:51 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 8:51 AM EST
Yeah, no doubt. But you do gotta admit that even though he sucks as an actor, everything he plays in is pretty much gold. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

LiquidMetal
34. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 6 2008, 10:03 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 10:03 AM EST
"why in the hell do film directors hire terrible cast members to do the films i mean Christian Bale as John connor is probably the worst casting mistake in the history of movie making. The man has no acting talent which become's very clear in the new batman movies. Why not wait a while to see how the show does then when that has finished or been cancelled give the actors in that show a chance to shine in a movie that could finish it off. All of the cast on this show are amazing give theme a chance to show it instead of this.

Can you actually imagine a casting conversation it would go like this" em yes i think they are indeed doing a show yes is very good the fans love it but that does not matter we have to have people with star quality like Christian bale(was nothing before his did batman and still sucks) like Moon Bloodgood( an actress of such power that she has only been in one film and one terrible show).""
A pretty bold and daring assessment of an actor for someone who just joined the wiki.

Bale has an impressive resume and will ultimately be shown to have been the best choice to play the role of John Connor.

Perhaps you should check out some of Bale's work:

The Machinist
Equilibrium
Rescue Dawn
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
American Psycho
3:10 To Yuma
The New World
The Prestige
Reign of Fire

I don't see anything here that would suggest Bale has no acting talent. Much of his better works came before the Batman franchise.

Every actor/actress has to start somewhere. Casting Moon Bloodgood is pure genius. She has the look of a kick-ass resistance fighter. This is Ms. Bloodgood's chance to take on a demanding role and co-star in a potential blockbuster.

I don't think I personally would be interested in going to see a Terminator movie where Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, George Clooney, or Tom Cruise were going to play the part of John Connor. As for the role of Sarah or Kate Connor none of these actresses would work for me either: Julia Roberts, Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon, Drew Barrymore, Renee Zellweger, Angelina Jolie, Cameron Diaz or Charlize Theron.

Casting for any movie is a role of the dice. Look at the Matrix movies. Most of the cast was virtually unknown. Second banana's. Whoever heard of Carrie-Ann Moss prior to the first Matrix?/rhetorical.

Thomas Dekker would never fly as John Connor on the big screen. For me, he will always remain a 16-year John Connor. The same fate the befell Edward Furlong.
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tomasarfert
tomasarfert
35. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 6 2008, 10:14 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 10:14 AM EST
"A pretty bold and daring assessment of an actor for someone who just joined the wiki.

Bale has an impressive resume and will ultimately be shown to have been the best choice to play the role of John Connor.

Perhaps you should check out some of Bale's work:

The Machinist
Equilibrium
Rescue Dawn
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
American Psycho
3:10 To Yuma
The New World
The Prestige
Reign of Fire

I don't see anything here that would suggest Bale has no acting talent. Much of his better works came before the Batman franchise.

Every actor/actress has to start somewhere. Casting Moon Bloodgood is pure genius. She has the look of a kick-ass resistance fighter. This is Ms. Bloodgood's chance to take on a demanding role and co-star in a potential blockbuster.

I don't think I personally would be interested in going to see a Terminator movie where Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, George Clooney, or Tom Cruise were going to play the part of John Connor. As for the role of Sarah or Kate Connor none of these actresses would work for me either: Julia Roberts, Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon, Drew Barrymore, Renee Zellweger, Angelina Jolie, Cameron Diaz or Charlize Theron.

Casting for any movie is a role of the dice. Look at the Matrix movies. Most of the cast was virtually unknown. Second banana's. Whoever heard of Carrie-Ann Moss prior to the first Matrix?/rhetorical.

Thomas Dekker would never fly as John Connor on the big screen. For me, he will always remain a 16-year John Connor. The same fate the befell Edward Furlong."
I totally agree.. Bale is a great choice for playing J.C. And an "movie star" actor like Cruise or Pitt would be a really bad choice. You wouldn't see Connor, just the star.
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ScotWithOne_t
ScotWithOne_t
36. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 6 2008, 12:29 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 12:29 PM EST
"I don't think I personally would be interested in going to see a Terminator movie where Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, George Clooney, or Tom Cruise were going to play the part of John Connor. As for the role of Sarah or Kate Connor none of these actresses would work for me either: Julia Roberts, Nicole Kidman, Reese Witherspoon, Drew Barrymore, Renee Zellweger, Angelina Jolie, Cameron Diaz or Charlize Theron.
"
Good point. I can't really think of too many actors that would do John Connor justice. The only that come to mind are maybe Russell Crowe, Sean Bean, Tom Sizemore, ... maybe Dennis Quaid.

Oh.. and if for some reason Summer Glau is not available, Cameron should be played by none other that Kate Beckinsale in T5 and T6. :D
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notty22
notty22
37. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 6 2008, 12:36 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 12:36 PM EST
I think Bale is a great choice. Hearing he is doing Terminator brought a smile to my face. This guy is HOT in hollywood. He has the LOOK bigtme. How can that be denied. Never mind , he can act. This guy lost 60 pounds to "MAKE" the character in The Machinist that is dedication. There are people that could not lose weight to save their own life never mind to become a better character in a movie.
As far as Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise . I think both of them could pull it off if they wanted to . They are both great actors. You take parts of the Brad Pitt bad ass from Fight Club and you would have a great image of a loony Connor. Pitt spends a lot of time exploring a comedic view of himself in roles lately. Not his good looks.
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ScotWithOne_t
ScotWithOne_t
38. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 6 2008, 2:28 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 2:28 PM EST
" This guy lost 60 pounds to "MAKE" the character in The Machinist that is dedication. There are people that could not lose weight to save their own life never mind to become a better character in a movie."
He also bulked up a TON for the role of Batman in "Batman Begins". I think they actually made him stop working out and lose some of the muscle because he went overboard and they thought he looked too muscular to be a convincing Bruce Wayne.

Basically, Bale = bad ass.
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ShiningPathofLight
ShiningPathofLight
39. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 6 2008, 4:13 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 4:13 PM EST
"I'm worried it's just gonna be a big-budget Hollywood movie with "awesome!" giant robots and a "franchise revitalizing" "dark" feel that ditches things like plasma rifles and overall doesn't even measure up to the scrappy feel the short flashbacks of T1, T2, and TSCC's future scenes had."
T4 takes place in or around 2018, most of the future scenes that we see in TSCC are around 2029. The world is going to look alot different after a decade of constant warfare and it's quite possible that plasma rifles haven't been invented yet in 2018.
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