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demonking5
demonking5
something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 4:53 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 4:53 PM EST
why in the hell do film directors hire terrible cast members to do the films i mean Christian Bale as John connor is probably the worst casting mistake in the history of movie making. The man has no acting talent which become's very clear in the new batman movies. Why not wait a while to see how the show does then when that has finished or been cancelled give the actors in that show a chance to shine in a movie that could finish it off. All of the cast on this show are amazing give theme a chance to show it instead of this.

Can you actually imagine a casting conversation it would go like this" em yes i think they are indeed doing a show yes is very good the fans love it but that does not matter we have to have people with star quality like Christian bale(was nothing before his did batman and still sucks) like Moon Bloodgood( an actress of such power that she has only been in one film and one terrible show)."
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Birdman117
Birdman117
1. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 5:04 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 5:04 PM EST
Actually Christian Bale was probably the best choice in movie history. Think about:
1. He's very very very popular right now thanks to Dark Knight
2. He's a good action star
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markingswall
markingswall
2. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 5:07 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 5:07 PM EST
I don't agree with your post. I think Bale is a good actor and I'm only talking about his work prior to Batman. Eversince he's Batman I don't really follow him anymore but he was terrific as Patrick Bateman but to each his or her own. But to cast him as Connor....why don't they make him the new Bond too, while they're at it, we need a new Indiana Jones too. He's overexposed, one of my friends says he doesn't wanna see Bruce Wayne as John Connor and I can relate.

So basically I think Bale is a good actor but I don't know what to think of him as JC. Salvation's biggest mistake has to be McG. The guy who made 2 Charlie's Angels movies where the chicks couldn't even kick above their own waists. If I see women "faking" the fight scenes I always cringe. The same with Kill Bill. I'm sorry Uma but you can't display a fighter, you hit and kick like someone who cannot fight.

Summer in Serenity, finally someone who delivered. Sorry, I'm straying a bit offtopic.

This cast is superior to that of Salvation. But I can't judge the guy who plays Marcus. Never seen him before so I'll give him a fair shot. Moon Bloodgood sucks though.
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Blackbriar724
Blackbriar724
3. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 5:08 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 5:08 PM EST
"why in the hell do film directors hire terrible cast members to do the films i mean Christian Bale as John connor is probably the worst casting mistake in the history of movie making. The man has no acting talent which become's very clear in the new batman movies. Why not wait a while to see how the show does then when that has finished or been cancelled give the actors in that show a chance to shine in a movie that could finish it off. All of the cast on this show are amazing give theme a chance to show it instead of this.

Can you actually imagine a casting conversation it would go like this" em yes i think they are indeed doing a show yes is very good the fans love it but that does not matter we have to have people with star quality like Christian bale(was nothing before his did batman and still sucks) like Moon Bloodgood( an actress of such power that she has only been in one film and one terrible show).""
Yes I would imagine that's almost exactly how the meeting went, that's how Hollywood works. Do you honestly think they would give the role to Thomas Dekker when his biggest claim to fame besides Terminator is a half season on Heroes?

Also Bale can act, go watch The Prestige.
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tomasarfert
tomasarfert
4. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 5:11 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 5:11 PM EST
What are you talking about? Bale is a good actor, and has performed well in all his movies, since Empire of the Sun.
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ScotWithOne_t
ScotWithOne_t
5. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 5:51 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 5:51 PM EST
Bale is a fantastic actor. He was great in American Psycho. He did good sci-fi action in Equillibrium. Great dramatic acting in The Machinist and The Prestige.

I would say that Batman, although a cool movie, was probably his worst role so far from an acting standpoint. That and the fact that he got upstaged BIG TIME by Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight.

I think He'll make a good John Connor.
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CuthbertAllgood
CuthbertAllgood
6. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 6:01 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 6:01 PM EST
"why in the hell do film directors hire terrible cast members to do the films i mean Christian Bale as John connor is probably the worst casting mistake in the history of movie making. The man has no acting talent which become's very clear in the new batman movies. Why not wait a while to see how the show does then when that has finished or been cancelled give the actors in that show a chance to shine in a movie that could finish it off. All of the cast on this show are amazing give theme a chance to show it instead of this.

Can you actually imagine a casting conversation it would go like this" em yes i think they are indeed doing a show yes is very good the fans love it but that does not matter we have to have people with star quality like Christian bale(was nothing before his did batman and still sucks) like Moon Bloodgood( an actress of such power that she has only been in one film and one terrible show).""
I would say that Bale is OK, maybe too much mainstream, but surely he knows his job and he will bring some interest from the media on the production.
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Eten

Eten
7. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 6:08 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 6:08 PM EST
You all really think Bale has never had a bad movie? Are we all forgetting Reign of Fire happened or what?

But I'm not actually worried about Bale in Salvation. I'm worried it's just gonna be a big-budget Hollywood movie with "awesome!" giant robots and a "franchise revitalizing" "dark" feel that ditches things like plasma rifles and overall doesn't even measure up to the scrappy feel the short flashbacks of T1, T2, and TSCC's future scenes had.
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Birdman117
Birdman117
8. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 6:09 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 6:09 PM EST
" I'm worried it's just gonna be a big-budget Hollywood movie with "awesome!" giant robots and a "franchise revitalizing" "dark" feel that ditches things like plasma rifles and overall doesn't even measure up to the scrappy feel the short flashbacks of T1, T2, and TSCC's future scenes had."
Same here. While I'm very excited for this movie, I'm being cautiously optimistic.
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Caesis
Caesis
9. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 6:11 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 6:11 PM EST
What bugs me most is that Cameron won't be in it =.=

And TSCC is going to have nothing to do with T4. Which sucks, cause overall, TSCC will OWN T4. Only thing is, T4 will have more, bigger explosions.
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CuthbertAllgood
CuthbertAllgood
10. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 6:11 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 6:11 PM EST
"You all really think Bale has never had a bad movie? Are we all forgetting Reign of Fire happened or what?

But I'm not actually worried about Bale in Salvation. I'm worried it's just gonna be a big-budget Hollywood movie with "awesome!" giant robots and a "franchise revitalizing" "dark" feel that ditches things like plasma rifles and overall doesn't even measure up to the scrappy feel the short flashbacks of T1, T2, and TSCC's future scenes had."
1)Reign of fire was...Ok. Strange concept...he had done worse.

2)That could be a problem: in particular the harvesters look too much like something from the Transformers movie than Terminator.
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GermaricanMix
GermaricanMix
11. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 6:20 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 6:20 PM EST
Christian Bale is actually my favorite actor. I think he's absolutely amazing and transforms into the characters he's portraying. He did an amazing job in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight was less about him and more about Heath. He didn't have a lot of character material to work with and what he did was just fine. That being said, I'm not worried about him as John Connor. I'm worried about the director, personally.
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TerminatorPodcast
TerminatorPodcast
12. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 6:58 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 6:58 PM EST
I'm on the same boat that you are about Bale. The original poster needs to see more of Bales movies, OTHER than the Batman romps to understand the power of Bale. He is one of our best talents currently without question.
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ScotWithOne_t
ScotWithOne_t
13. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 1 2008, 7:37 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 1 2008, 7:37 PM EST
And it has already been posted, but the director is the biggest threat to this movie.

McG.
Just look at this magnificent pile of fail: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0629334/
His claim to fame is Charlies frickin' Angels for God's sake. Let's hope T4 is his breakout role as a GREAT director... but I won't be holding my breath. If T4 turns out to be another cinematic ABORTION like T3, I'm going to crush myself in a hydraulic press.

IMO...they should have scaled back the CGI budget and invested in a better director like Michael Mann or Ridley Scott... or... I know I'll regret this later... Michael Bay. *gags* Of course...it would be kinda hard to have product placement for Nike, Miller Lite, Pepsi, Audi, Fed Ex and JVC in a post-apocalyptic future movie....but the explosions would be SWEET!
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Arbalest
Arbalest
14. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 12:28 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 12:28 AM EST
"why in the hell do film directors hire terrible cast members to do the films i mean Christian Bale as John connor is probably the worst casting mistake in the history of movie making. The man has no acting talent which become's very clear in the new batman movies. Why not wait a while to see how the show does then when that has finished or been cancelled give the actors in that show a chance to shine in a movie that could finish it off. All of the cast on this show are amazing give theme a chance to show it instead of this.

Can you actually imagine a casting conversation it would go like this" em yes i think they are indeed doing a show yes is very good the fans love it but that does not matter we have to have people with star quality like Christian bale(was nothing before his did batman and still sucks) like Moon Bloodgood( an actress of such power that she has only been in one film and one terrible show).""
I disagree. Christian Bale is the best live-action Batman in history...Kevin Conroy maintains title of best Batman Period, regardless he's an awesome actor.
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THX-1138
THX-1138
15. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 12:34 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 12:34 AM EST
I think Bale was a great choice for John Connor. This saga needs to grow after disintegrating into a Schwarzenegger-fest and Bale is one of the hottest actors in Hollywood right now. He's just the type of star power this movie needs to get people into theaters next summer. If the movie does well financially, it means more Terminator-inspired material. That's good for us fans no matter how you slice it.
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DeusEx
DeusEx
16. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 1:19 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 1:19 AM EST
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Also Bale can act, go watch The Prestige."
I saw that movie a few days ago....it became an instant favorite for me.
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locdasmoke

locdasmoke
17. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 2:38 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 2:38 AM EST
Bale is probably the best choice, either that or bring back Edward Furlong!
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jrockblast
jrockblast
18. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 5:46 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 5:46 AM EST
"why in the hell do film directors hire terrible cast members to do the films i mean Christian Bale as John connor is probably the worst casting mistake in the history of movie making. The man has no acting talent which become's very clear in the new batman movies. Why not wait a while to see how the show does then when that has finished or been cancelled give the actors in that show a chance to shine in a movie that could finish it off. All of the cast on this show are amazing give theme a chance to show it instead of this.

Can you actually imagine a casting conversation it would go like this" em yes i think they are indeed doing a show yes is very good the fans love it but that does not matter we have to have people with star quality like Christian bale(was nothing before his did batman and still sucks) like Moon Bloodgood( an actress of such power that she has only been in one film and one terrible show).""
thomas dekker over christan bale ill pass you need a bid acton name to repair the crap that was T3 and since Vin diesel went to shit Bale is biggest name out there to say that he was nothing before batman is stupid what was Arnold b4 Conan Will b4 independence day Stallone b4 Rocky and Rambo all actors are nobodys till they get a big part why do people always have to rip stuff b4 they even see finish product
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Em-Ned
Em-Ned
19. RE: something that bugs me about termintor salvation
Dec 2 2008, 6:47 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 2 2008, 6:47 AM EST
I like Bale, and I totally can see him as John Connor. There are a lots of things that can make this movie suck, but I doubt Bale will be one of those.

On a side note:

Thomas is a bit too young to play a grown up John if you ask me(I wonder how they'll solve that in the series...if they ever show a grown up John Connor). But I like him as John though. I also liked him on Heroes...better than fly boy West...I actually thought he was the coolest non hero of the show.
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