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RH7162	Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 1:49 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 1:49 AM EST When Derek is helping lauren's mom he sticks a tube in the bullet wound and put the other end in a jar of water. What was the purpose of that? Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
willwood	1. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 1:51 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 1:51 AM EST I thought it was to drain fluids from her lung, but I could be wrong. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
CoffeeHeidi	2. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 1:53 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 1:53 AM EST The same thing was done in the show "In Plain Sight." If dh is remembering correctly, he's saying that it allows the air from rushing out of the lung and blood from filling it and causing the victim to drown in literally, their own blood. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
General_Mazaki	3. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 1:54 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 1:54 AM EST "When Derek is helping lauren's mom he sticks a tube in the bullet wound and put the other end in a jar of water. What was the purpose of that?" It's a really ghetto I.V. (according to my father, who is an anesthesiologist) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Atlas98	4. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 1:55 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 1:55 AM EST "I thought it was to drain fluids from her lung, but I could be wrong. " i'm no doctor,but your theory seems sound enough...i was thinking the same. But,like you said willwood,we're probably wrong. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Thecolours	5. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 1:55 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 1:55 AM EST "It's a really ghetto I.V. (according to my father, who is an anesthesiologist)" lol. Does he talk like that around the office? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
General_Mazaki	6. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 1:57 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 1:57 AM EST "It's a really ghetto I.V. (according to my father, who is an anesthesiologist)" Whoops, nevermind, he says. He didn't see it clearly. It was actually a ghetto method of keeping the air from rushing out of the lung. It is a way to keep the lung pressurized so she doesn't drown in her own blood. Looks like Heidi beat me to it, though. glares at Heidi lol, jk. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
SapphireMind	7. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 1:59 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 1:59 AM EST It's a chest tube (crudely) You put it in water so air doesn't go straight back into the chest. Think of your chest as a tube, filled with fluid and two air filled balloons, for illustration purposes. If your balloons get punctured, they leak air out into tube, it pushes on your balloons (and everything else) because the air is taking the place where other things are supposed to be. If you put a tube into the area where the air has gathered, it will want to go out, because there's too much pressure in the chest. If the tube is in water, the surface tension of the water will help air to not go back in. IRL, people get a pneumothorax (what she had) and it's a small hole in the lungs. If we take out the extra air from the chest via a chest tube, it's no longer pushing on the heart and the lungs, they can breathe and beat their heart fine and the small hole will heal itself. If the air continues to push on things, they will no longer be able to breathe because the air outside the lungs will push on them so they can't inflate. It can also alter/stop heart function by pressing on it. Think of all your internal organs up there just getting squeezed - they don't work then. Anyway, we put a small tube in their chest between their ribs, then put it to suction to try and get the fluid/air out. It has a water chamber as well to ensure that air doesn't go back into the chest. Post reply 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
willwood	8. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:00 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:00 AM EST That's what I thought at first too, but then I dismissed it as I saw blood spew out later. My gut instinct is always right but I never trust it! lol Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Prez270	9. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:01 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:01 AM EST "That's what I thought at first too, but then I dismissed it as I saw blood spew out later. My gut instinct is always right but I never trust it! lol " What does your gut instinct say about a third season? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SapphireMind	10. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:03 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:03 AM EST The blood came because the injury was getting worse. At first she just had what we call a "tension pneumothorax", which means it was bad, and could have killed her because air was pushing on everything. When the blood started coming out, it means instead of the area outside the lungs filling with air, they're now filling with blood and air. not a good combo. (you'll always get a little blood out of a chest tube, but a sudden increase is bad mojo) Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
willwood	11. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:03 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:03 AM EST Skynet sends back Pink Fluffy Bunnies instead of terminators. This aids in their infiltration and JC is killed. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
CoffeeHeidi	12. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:04 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:04 AM EST "Whoops, nevermind, he says. He didn't see it clearly. It was actually a ghetto method of keeping the air from rushing out of the lung. It is a way to keep the lung pressurized so she doesn't drown in her own blood. Looks like Heidi beat me to it, though. glares at Heidi lol, jk." Yeah, you're just glaring 'cause I know more than you 'cause I watch more TV than you and you were probably lost on all those old shows we were talking about in the other thread. :-P (Btw, can you say "run on sentence? lol!) But speaking of IV, it was weird seeing all the real IVs and a clean/cleanish room. We're so used to seeing everything in the future scenes very dirty, gritty, broken, etc. that to see a mostly clean room with real IVs and medical suits was shocking. Loved the heavy plastic that was used to contain the room. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Prez270	13. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:05 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:05 AM EST "Skynet sends back Pink Fluffy Bunnies instead of terminators. This aids in their infiltration and JC is killed. " LMAO! That's not what I was asking.... smartass :D I meant : IS there going to be a third season? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SapphireMind	14. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:10 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:10 AM EST shudder You thought that was clean? LOL All I could think of was "They didn't wipe off that hub before accessing it!" I would think some of that equipment would be very easy to obtain. Every doctor's office, urgent care, hospital, colleges that have nursing and/or medical programs, vets, etc. would have IV equip. I went to Honduras and they have IVs and stuff for their patients often. Come to think of it, where Derek and Jesse were was much like a third world hospital. LOL Post reply Do you find this valuable?
CoffeeHeidi	15. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:15 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:15 AM EST Good points, SapphireMind. I didn't notice the non-wiping off the hub but will look for it on the 2nd viewing. And by "clean" that was in comparison to the tunnels we've seen Derek and Reese living in. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Prez270	16. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:16 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:16 AM EST "And by "clean" that was in comparison to the tunnels we've seen Derek and Reese living in." You should have seen my apartment when I was single... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Atlas98	17. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 2:30 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 2:30 AM EST From what i've read...i was wrong the whole time. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SapphireMind	18. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 3:24 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 3:24 AM EST "From what i've read...i was wrong the whole time." You're not too far off - it's to drain liquid and air from the sac that surrounds the lungs, it doesn't go into the lungs itself (unless something has gone very very very wrong. :) Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Thecolours	19. RE: Medical question about Alpine Fields Dec 9 2008, 3:30 AM EST \| Post edited: Dec 9 2008, 3:30 AM EST " Come to think of it, where Derek and Jesse were was much like a third world hospital. LOL" I think the third world hospital might have been illustrated on purpose. It's as close to it gets to a hospital in a post-Judgement Day. After all, Jesse did have her gun held together by duct tape. The resistence is basically, 'duct-taping' it all together. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?

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