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Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 10:20 PM EST
After all the Jameron and aJameron treads, I got a theory that many people are aJameron because they dislike the idea of sex between John (human) and Cameron (cyborg).And many people support "Jameron" because they believe John and Cameron would not have sex. So we have these groups: aJameron (believing that Jameron relationship does not imply sex) aJameron (believing that Jameron relationship does imply sex) Jameron (believing that Jameron relationship does not imply sex) Jameron (believing that Jameron relationship does imply sex) Which group are you, would you be in a different group if that variable would change? 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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1. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 10:29 PM EST
Cam would not play the sex toy because she's a person. She would get JC focused on what he needs to learn. More likely, she would get him to sublimate his sexual energy into more useful projects and learning his kung fu. In essence, she would make him work for that sweet, cyborg honeypot.
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Schmacky |
2. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 10:32 PM EST
I know this is a sweet gesture.. you're trying to understand but every time someone says why they're part of either group.. a member of the opposing group attacks and nitpicks the crap out of that person's answer and the chaos never ends. It really never does end. 5 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs |
3. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 10:33 PM EST
Um, I'm a big boy so I could handle a little physicality with said relationship. If it's done tastefully or artistically or whatever... as long as it's mutual... then I have no problem with the sex part. I've actually written a few different ways in which to do this very intimate act of love. None of them are explicit. There is the touching and emotional and tender build up and the afterwards, but NEVER during. This doesn't have to be a late night skin flick! I even had one scenario where I tried to add a little humor to the morning after. 4 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
Corwin08 |
4. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 10:35 PM EST
Honestly, I've never been into John/Cam having sex. For one thing...she'd break him :) I think the idea of a decades long protector/confidant relationship more fulfilling and romantic. And yeah, a future war ep about the tension between Cam and John's future wife would be interesting.
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MyImmortal |
5. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 10:37 PM EST
I'm in neither group. Should have made one for the Jaurens. There is a few of us here. :)
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Caesis |
6. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 10:49 PM EST
I'm leaning towards a friendship/light relationship. It'll take at least a season to patch together John's head enough for him to begin to look at her like that again.In the meanwhile, I hope that Cameron's ability to mimick humans will increase =) And I'm against the robosex thing. 5 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
Talon_Svarog |
7. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 10:58 PM EST
I'd like to see no further than a simple friendship between the two of them. If John must have an intimate relationship with someone, at least have it be another human, not a machine like Cameron.
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Talon_Svarog |
8. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 11:00 PM EST
I just realized that I should explain that when I say relationship I do not mean one with that has sex involved with it. The reason why I am against an intimate relationship with Cameron is not because they are not compatible sexually, but because she is meant to his protector, not his lover. Why, oh why, does this forum not have an edit button?
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9. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 11:12 PM EST
"I just realized that I should explain that when I say relationship I do not mean one with that has sex involved with it. The reason why I am against an intimate relationship with Cameron is not because they are not compatible sexually, but because she is meant to his protector, not his lover. Why, oh why, does this forum not have an edit button?"The forum doesn't have an edit button simply because no one has taken the time to disconnect the site, program all the edit buttons, and bring it live again. It's a lot of work. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Talon_Svarog |
10. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 11:13 PM EST
"The forum doesn't have an edit button simply because no one has taken the time to disconnect the site, program all the edit buttons, and bring it live again. It's a lot of work."All that for an edit button? Woah. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
ScotWithOne_t |
11. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 11:19 PM EST
John's relationship with Cameron should be physical only.
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vaberella |
12. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 29 2008, 11:37 PM EST
"After all the Jameron and aJameron treads, I got a theory that many people are aJameron because they dislike the idea of sex between John (human) and Cameron (cyborg).aJameron (believing that Jameron relationship does imply sex) My group, since he's also a very healthy human boy and she's an one of the best new infiltrator models (which would have me assume unlike Vic ([T888]which I'm not sure about) she can have sex or something close to that. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
termi-ninja-tor |
13. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 30 2008, 12:00 AM EST
Yah, I think they should have sex.John is a healthy male with normal needs. Lots of lonely guys use devices to help them get by, like blowup dolls. I'll bet they wish their dolls could respond to them like a robot (if not like a real woman). Probably lots of lonely gals use devices, too, like vibrators and dildos. I personally don't find that there is anything wrong with that. Cameron is disease-free and won't get pregnant. She may be engineered to provide better physical pleasure than a real woman. She won't have headaches. John can fall in love with Cameron. People can fall in love with almost anything: cars, rifles, pets, money, power, etc. Cameron can develop the appropriate response set to mimic a woman in love. We all hope that she is self aware and truly in love but John wouldn't be able to tell without asking. It'll keep him focused on her, and she'll keep him focused on what needs to get done. No distractions like Riley. Also, the relationship would not be saddled with any of the baggage that a human sexual relationship often carries, like worrying about fidelity and rivals, keeping your partner interested in you, etc. They wouldn't really have to show anything explicit on the show. Maybe the occasional kiss. The physical aspect can be implied. They don't even have to show as much of it as we see on Grey's Anatomy. Flame me if you want. 11 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
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HealingMindN |
14. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 30 2008, 12:05 AM EST
I told you people they need foreplay first. Lots and lots of foreplay.
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Cuckoo4CocoaPuffs |
15. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 30 2008, 12:06 AM EST
If > I < were in charge of this show I would take Sarah's monologue on "what if a machine became so close to being a human, you couldn't tell the difference... because there is no real difference" literally.Meaning, if that's true there is NO reason why John and Cameron couldn't have a healthy relationship and all that goes with it. Basically, she is not only his protector, but his friend, his companion, and his lover for all time. They start to have a love that transcends what they're each made out of and move to a love that transcends the bonds of time and space themselves. Talk about romantic!! Basically, they were made for each other. I'd go so far as to have that if Cameron is not built to bear any kind of child, that the next best thing happens: Savannah or Allison are left without someone to take care of them and in steps Cameron. She has taken over the roll of Sarah... and is a better mother than Sarah ever was as well. Just as Cameron begins to love John with such simple conviction she loves and protects and is attentive to this child... as if it were her very own. As Arnold turned out to be someone who could be John's perfect father figure, according to Sarah, Cameron becomes the perfect lover and soulmate for John and mother to his adopted child. John has taken a huge leap into a much deeper connection with his machine friends... and he has a reason to fight to stop Skynet NOW: he has a real family to protect and cherish. John now acts like a man even though he's not "legally" one. And Cameron starts acting like a grown and responsible young woman. She must step up and be a mother. They are married in all ways except the paperwork. They both have now matured and evolved to the next plain of existance. 10 out of 11 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 30 2008, 12:19 AM EST
I'm in the "Jameron (believing that Jameron relationship does not imply sex)" camp.
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Iranatest |
17. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 30 2008, 12:23 AM EST
John was chaste a lot in the Sampson and Delilah episode - and that settles that.btw there is a new poll with the 4 aforementioned OP options. Maybe a link will appear below if the keywords match up. :) Do you find this valuable? |
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18. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 30 2008, 12:55 AM EST
"After all the Jameron and aJameron treads, I got a theory that many people are aJameron because they dislike the idea of sex between John (human) and Cameron (cyborg).How about none of the above, but open to a relationship of some sort if it's done correctly? Plus, I don't think a relationship **necessarily** implies sex, but sex need not be ruled out either. Interesting way to start a thread, though ^_^ 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
spartan547 |
19. RE: Does a "Jameron" relationship mean John is Chaste or Not?
Dec 30 2008, 1:36 AM EST
OK, this whole Jameron thing is getting a little ridiculous. Has it really been discussed to death so much that we need to start arguing semantics just to keep it going? We really need some new episodes.
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