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Caesis
Caesis
Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 9:16 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 9:16 AM EST
What are the lowest points you think the show had?
Please, no "when riley came in and shes evil!!!111!"

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Caesis
Caesis
1. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 9:17 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 9:17 AM EST
Also see the sister thread: High points of TSCC.

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Dr._Allison_Cameron
Dr._Allison_Cameron
2. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 9:57 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 9:57 AM EST
I didnt liek the girl suicide jump off the school roof and Sarah punching the mirror after seeing three dots on her chekk.

Also, I wish they had shown Cromartie fighting the feds instead of just the feds falling into the pool. Do you find this valuable?    
Birdman117
Birdman117
3. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 11:05 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 11:05 AM EST
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Also, I wish they had shown Cromartie fighting the feds instead of just the feds falling into the pool."
I liked how they did that scene. I thought is was great and the Johnny Cash song "When the Man comes around" was perfect for it. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Brovane
Brovane
4. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 11:47 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 11:47 AM EST
Low Points
Derek using a M79 GL as a Close Quarters Combat Weapon
Cameron using a 12G Shotgun to Kill Cromartie - Just ruined the scene
In Alpine Fields Cameron getting thrown through a window with no Terminator in-sight.
Cromartie so easily killing the Ellison Terminator

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Dr._Allison_Cameron
Dr._Allison_Cameron
5. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 11:55 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 11:55 AM EST
"I liked how they did that scene. I thought is was great and the Johnny Cash song "When the Man comes around" was perfect for it."
Yeah, the song was just right for the scene. I agree the pool view was artful. I only wish we could have seen some fight action too. Mabye it wouldnt have worked out had the same artistic effect. ok. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Birdman117
Birdman117
6. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 11:56 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 11:56 AM EST
"Yeah, the song was just right for the scene. I agree the pool view was artful. I only wish we could have seen some fight action too. Mabye it wouldnt have worked out had the same artistic effect. ok."
I too was hoping for some action, but it fit with the song. Maybe without the song, it would have been more fitting to show some action. Do you find this valuable?    
TerminTatorTot
TerminTatorTot
7. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 12:04 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 12:04 PM EST
"Yeah, the song was just right for the scene. I agree the pool view was artful. I only wish we could have seen some fight action too. Mabye it wouldnt have worked out had the same artistic effect. ok."
The pool view was clever, admittedly. I think the whole scene was easier & cheaper to shoot since they just had people in SWAT uniforms jumping off the balcony into a pool with blood pellets. The producers and accountants thanked them! Thing is, it was very cool. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Brovane
Brovane
8. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 12:04 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 12:04 PM EST
"I too was hoping for some action, but it fit with the song. Maybe without the song, it would have been more fitting to show some action. "
I personally think by not showing the fight it made the scene cheaper and quicker to film. Do you find this valuable?    
TerminTatorTot
TerminTatorTot
9. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 12:08 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 12:08 PM EST
My low point was in Alpine Fields (no relation to the Beatle's Strawberry Fields), where Cameron comes flying through the window and hits the floor passed out cold. If she was thrown through, the bad Termi was down the road (killing Charles Barkley, who ran a stop sign to get a BJ out there, I guess) and couldn't have done it. If she hurled herself through, why did she pass out suddenly on the floor? I just think they made an error there of some kind. Not sure. Just ambiguous to me. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
jaquio
jaquio
10. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 12:13 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 12:13 PM EST
1. dumping the school arcs unceremoniously
2. dumping the serialized feel of episodes flowing into each other
3. breaking apart the family (this includes john being a wuss, sarah being beyond nuts, cameron being sidelined, and derek off chasing another girl)
4. the abortive new intro and only sporadic monologues
5. the lame blood wall and its lame introduction (and diverting the connors from going after the turk) 7  out of 8 found this valuable. Do you?    
ShiningPathofLight
ShiningPathofLight
11. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 12:31 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 12:31 PM EST
"1. dumping the school arcs unceremoniously
2. dumping the serialized feel of episodes flowing into each other
3. breaking apart the family (this includes john being a wuss, sarah being beyond nuts, cameron being sidelined, and derek off chasing another girl)
4. the abortive new intro and only sporadic monologues
5. the lame blood wall and its lame introduction (and diverting the connors from going after the turk)"
All great points!! All of them. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
notty22
notty22
12. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 12:47 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 12:47 PM EST
Low point. The unnecessary transvestite story. That character was a distraction to the episode. It was made worse by casting a woman to play a man pretending to be a woman. Way to much WTF moments to take away from Sarah getting shot and Riley's arrival in a time bubble and subsequent writst slashing. "your a soldier , your a seeker" sticks in my mind , because I cringe when I hear it. 5  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
jaquio
jaquio
13. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 12:53 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 12:53 PM EST
agreed mr notty, that phrase is burned into my mind now =(~ 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
AverageJo
AverageJo
14. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 12:54 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 12:54 PM EST
My low point was a scene at the end of second season episode 2 ("Automatic for the People" maybe?) in which Agent Ellison is looking at the burned out husk of the Connor's house when he is surprised by Cromartie. Not wanting to lead the terminator to the Connor's, he says that he "won't help the devil" and Cromartie replies "We'll see."

The problem: How did Ellison even know about the house fire? Another, worse problem: Because the Connor's still used the same "Baum" identity when they rented a new house, Cromartie could easily have tracked them down using real estate records, since he would naturally be wondering why Ellison was interested in that house.

This is just one of the many gaping holes in logic that fans are bringing up on this thread. The writers seem to be stumbling a bit in season 2. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

DavidB1111
15. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 1:13 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 1:13 PM EST
"Low Points
Derek using a M79 GL as a Close Quarters Combat Weapon
Cameron using a 12G Shotgun to Kill Cromartie - Just ruined the scene
In Alpine Fields Cameron getting thrown through a window with no Terminator in-sight.
Cromartie so easily killing the Ellison Terminator

"
Um, the shotgun was filled with freaking depleted Uranium slugs. That would stop a tank. A Tank. With armor that a Terminator wishes it had. That cannot be a valid argument. :)

I will concede the GL point, that's bad, and the Cameron being thrown through a window. Although it's possible the Terminator threw her through it and then started running away.

Cromartie ripped out the power supply, duh, of course it's going to easily kill a Terminator.
Also, it was distracted, so your point is again moot. 1  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
jaquio
jaquio
16. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 1:29 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 1:29 PM EST
i think there wasnt enough explanation that the connors were packing DU rounds and GLs modified to work in close quarters. if you recall, cam used an m79 against the runaway that was about to grease derek. a normal m79 wouldve killed him and severely damaged her. they should also state that the connors use AP rounds for their handguns, otherwise theyre only useful against human threats 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
AverageJo
AverageJo
17. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 1:35 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 1:35 PM EST
"i think there wasnt enough explanation that the connors were packing DU rounds and GLs modified to work in close quarters. if you recall, cam used an m79 against the runaway that was about to grease derek. a normal m79 wouldve killed him and severely damaged her. they should also state that the connors use AP rounds for their handguns, otherwise theyre only useful against human threats"
Agreed. A short explanation would've been helpful - it's an important point. Just a few lines would be enough. Surely they can spare that from the endless "John is depressed/rebellious" scenes. 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Brovane
Brovane
18. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 2:18 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 2:18 PM EST
"Um, the shotgun was filled with freaking depleted Uranium slugs. That would stop a tank. A Tank. With armor that a Terminator wishes it had. That cannot be a valid argument. :)

I will concede the GL point, that's bad, and the Cameron being thrown through a window. Although it's possible the Terminator threw her through it and then started running away.

Cromartie ripped out the power supply, duh, of course it's going to easily kill a Terminator.
Also, it was distracted, so your point is again moot."
#1- Depleted Uranium shells do not exist for 12 Gauge Shotgun shells. The only reason that DU rounds are used in military rounds is for extra penetration. A 12Gauge DU round wouldn't gain much extra penetration from using DU rounds. That is why the military doesn't use it. If a 12Gauge DU round would stop a tank they would just arm infantry with 12 Gauge shotguns instead of Javelins ATGM. A 12Gauge shotgun shell and a 120mm APFSDS shell are in completely different realms of penetrating pwoer.
#2-So the Terminator approaches the house where the Connors are hiding throws Cameron through the window and then runs back behind the bushes so he can kill the dog? The entire scene doesn't make any sense.
#3-Cromartie just simply ramming a rod through a Terminator and killing it, cheapens the entire Terminator mystique They are supposed to be tough not to have a metal rod easily jammed through them. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
Dr._Allison_Cameron
Dr._Allison_Cameron
19. RE: Low points of TSCC?
Jan 13 2009, 2:34 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2009, 2:34 PM EST
"#2-So the Terminator approaches the house where the Connors are hiding throws Cameron through the window and then runs back behind the bushes so he can kill the dog? The entire scene doesn't make any sense."
When I was watching the ep, I assumd that th eT-888 knocked Cam out somehow then threw her through the window from a great distance. do you think its possible for him to throw her that far?

the whole idea of throwing Cam thru the window might be to avoid getting shot. he doesnt know what wepons they have. so if thats it, he might have threw her from close then run away. see what they shoot back with? 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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