"It's not as much saying we don't want that to happen. We don't want to see it on screen. I've got no objection to them making the relationship physical, personally (I don't want to see it, so if they did get that far, it would be implied, rather than shown), but what we want to see is a close emotional bond between them.

That's far more important than any physical side of a relationship between them"

"JC should be loading up "wives" with a bunch of other dudes and starting a whole NEW civilization undergraound or on an island or anywhere out of the eye of Skynet to be. We need humans man! Bodies to grow up and fight back. What better pick up line than that?"

"Easier for me to start with what I don't want:

I don't want Cameron to become an electronic human.

I don't want Cameron to forget that she is a Terminator.

I don't want the mystery of Cameron to be explained away in a scientifically or technologically plausible, but mundane fashion.

I don't want John and Cam to get it on just because Summer is cute, I find that attitude patronising and somewhat insulting to me personally and to my regard of Summer as an actor.

I don't want Cameron to be a macguffin, a plot device that motivates the other characters without having any intrinsic value herself as a character. I think that Cameron, Summer and we the viewers deserve more than that.

What I do want:

I want Cameron to be a character in her own right, with a unique perspective on the world that is neither human nor machine (if indeed, machines can have an perspective), and her own motivations - even if I don't necessarily want to know those motivations (part of the mystery).

I want John to have an emotional relationship with Cameron.
I think Terminator is about exploring the relationship between humanity and the technology we develop, and I want to see what that relationship might be like at the most personal level: is it possible to be in love with a machine?

That doesn't mean that all I want to see is robo-sex, by "personal" I mean our deepest emotions and feelings. If however John and Cam were to develop a deep emotional relationship that eventually involved sex, I would have no particular objection.

Is that all to much to ask?"

"That basically sums up how I feel. I think seeing John respect Cameron more for why she is there and what she has done would be all I would ask for.

I don't recall him ever truly saying thank you to her . . . .for me the best scene would be John giving Cameron a hug . . .maybe she wouldn't know what John is doing that for but it's the thought that counts. I don't really consider myself a shipper or anti shipper . . . I think they have a relationsip as allies right now and I see no reason why they cannot be freinds later on . . .. it's up to John though . . . she's right there always protecting him taking bullets . . he nees to realize it, and if he does, he needs to say it already lol"

"For me, the key to understanding Cameron's character is to *not* think of her as a pretty girl with a robot skeleton. Nor think of her as a human at all. Nor a female.

She's sentient, and she's self-aware. She's a person. True, she has programming that influences her decisions, but then so do humans (they're called instincts).

My interpretation is that she *does* have emotions, of a muted and austere variety, and she can develop emotional attachments, which can later lead to empathic concern, but this is something has to develop.

Jameron would be, at best, a strong friendship with "benefits." These benefits would be in John's favor.

I made a post a while back about comparing Cameron's situation to a human stranded on a planet of humanoid cockroaches. I stand by that.

http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/2319401/How+would+you+feel+if+your+lover+was+cyborg%3F?offset=60&maxResults=20#reply72

Don't get me wrong. I'm a Jameron, but I also recognize the obstacles of such a relationship."

"Realistically, 16yo JC is interested in sex, but sex is not the central theme of TSCC (OMG, we're having a gossip girl discussion about TSCC). The central theme is this alternate timeline where we get to see Sarah "raising" her son, who is a living anachronism. JC exists because of time travel.

When we look at it from the fictional character's POV, there's noone like JC. By the same token, Noone can put themselves in JC's position and say "he should do this, he shouldn't do that."

So, why did future JC send back a beautiful cyborg to his 16yo counterpart instead of another Uncle Bob? What could JC possibly have been thinking?

I'm not the kind of guy to go in a snake handler's church either and say, "you shouldn't do that - you get bitten, you might die." Same goes for JC. All I'd tell him is "Party on, dude.""