""Not really caring what you believem as I have seen you go off topicm, personally attck people with insults, and try to take the thread off topic."

No one's taking this thread "off topic, except perhaps you. As for insults - again, you protest too much. Read again the posts of these people" who spent reams of posts FIRST insulting others. Get it right.

You started this thread on a false premise, and when called out by myself and others, you take refuge in sophistry.



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"Yes, please focus. That means not accusing all those who support a close relationship between Cam and John as secretly harbouring sex-bot fantasies, or bringing up highly emotive subjects like slavery which is immediately going to raise hackles."

"It is better, but I wish you would talk to me directly in this forum, rather than in the third person. Seems as if you feel the need to have "strength in numbers," as if more people co-signing is going to change my opinion about things.

You've tried to take things to a very over-simplistic view, but yes, I do see her as strictly operating on programming, by two sources, which allows her to process the input she experiernces. Her puprose is to complete her mission (which we do not yet know what that is), agreed?

I understand that shippers jump the shark on this AI thing, and see Cam as more alive than machine - or HOPE so. I've said this in other threads and stated it up front so as not to shock anyone with my own revalations. All my cards are on the table.

They are MY cards, and I'm playing them here. Try deal with that without the disdain or we'll only polerize and get nothing constructive done.

Nice try with the "Chris sees Cam as a simple paper airplane and shippers know it's a big sophisticated space shuttle and he doesn't know the difference" but that don't fly. Try to state your point without the sideways insults to other people's intellegence. I didn't start this thread to be immature so rise to the level of the majority of the comments you read here. The quality of the interaction speaks for itself.

Focus.

Oh, Cam said her brain worked differently than ours. And yes, from a CPU standpoint, when I turn on my computer and bring up the Photoshop program, it has no choice in the matter not to do so - unless it is broken."

"Ah "The Measure of a Man" Good episode, if just a little talky.

Basically I feel this way: I'm neither here nor there about them getting together. Either way it's a still a good TV show. If they do get together the only thing I ask is that it be done right. I honestly couldn't care less if they have sex or not. As long as whatever they do works in the context of the show I'm happy.

On Cameron herself: Cameron is to the Enigma Machine what a Space Shuttle is a Paper Airplane. Aside from Catherine Weaver she's the most sophisticated piece of technology in our time. See's definitely self aware (She knows what she is, knows what she's doing. Isn't that what it is to be self aware?) but she isn't a person in the traditional sense of the word. She does have some medium of free will but I'm not convinced that if she wanted to she could up and leave the Connor's to fend for themselves because of her mission. So I got to believe that if they were to enter into a relationship right now it would only be to facilitate her programming."

"Bah. I've been through threads just like this over and over and *over* again.

The Jamerons see Cam as a sentient, self-aware being.

The Anti-Jamerons see Cam the same way they see their laptop."