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bleedmeanocean
bleedmeanocean
40. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 12:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 12:37 PM EDT
Quotes from Shirley

"I love looking at naked bodies, male or female, whenever possible. I think nudity is always tasteful."

"Young girls now correlate the word 'sexy' with nakedness. It's practically, 'Show us your labia'. If you play that game of allowing yourself to be judged by your physicality, it will not sustain you through a long career. There's always going to be someone younger, more beautiful, more desirable. It's a temple of dust." (About the music industry)

"I'm afraid of happy people. They're chemically unbalanced."

"I look at today's charts, at the women who are selling the most records, getting the most column inches, and I'm terrified by how they are all controlled by a male corporate idea of what women and rebels should be. When Christina Aguilera is taken seriously as a rebellious figure, we have a huge problem."

"A lot of celebrities just want money, fame, power, fancy cars, houses all over the world and have people bow down to them. To me, that's frightful behaviour."

"A lot of people these days are not music lovers - they just want to be famous which is a very different thing to what I grew up believing in."

"I am not a sexy woman, I'm not beautiful, I'm not a sex kitten, I don't flirt with people, yet I've been tagged more of sex symbol than women who truly are and I that's solely because I don't reveal too much: people are curious."
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TentoTwenty
TentoTwenty
41. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 12:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 12:40 PM EDT
She is so cool. Do you find this valuable?    
bleedmeanocean
bleedmeanocean
42. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 12:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 12:45 PM EDT
Her most recent Facebook post

So Called NoirShare
Friday, March 20, 2009 at 5:00am
Just posted a writing demo of a song i wrote with my friend Greg (Kurstin) a year or so ago.
It's one from the "So Called Noir" Series.
I just stumbled upon it tonight when I was looking for something else and I listened to it and thought: fuck it why not post it for all the people who wrote me lovely things about my mum when she died. It's the least I can do.I owe you a song for sure
So to all my darklings and noirlings........thankyou.This one is for you. x

Her page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Shirley-Manson/27037696386
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bleedmeanocean
bleedmeanocean
43. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 12:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 12:47 PM EDT
"She is so cool."
Yeah she is.
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Iovine
Iovine
44. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 1:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 1:29 PM EDT
Someone else posted this clip right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaouEkwYQSw

IMO it insinuates that this LMT who took over CW's body wasn't the same one that was in the box. The one in the box knows about John Connor, and CW(Shirley!!) seems to not know much about him. Hell, it seems Ellison knows more about John Connor than CW does.

CW: I want to meet him
Ellison : You want to meet John Connor?
CW: ..........I think he knows something
CW: his mother thinks he's a messiah. I want to know why

If this LMT was the same one we saw in the box, then it would have known about "that something" that John Connor knows and it would not be wondering why his mom thinks he's a messiah, it would have been familiar with John Connor's story from the future and how he's the leader of the resistance.

Anyways, just my two cents....

" yes, she's a cyborg, don't pretend you didn't know " lol, SHIRLEY ROCKS!!

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TackDriver1956
TackDriver1956
45. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 1:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 1:40 PM EDT
"Someone else posted this clip right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaouEkwYQSw

IMO it insinuates that this LMT who took over CW's body wasn't the same one that was in the box. The one in the box knows about John Connor, and CW(Shirley!!) seems to not know much about him. Hell, it seems Ellison knows more about John Connor than CW does.

CW: I want to meet him
Ellison : You want to meet John Connor?
CW: ..........I think he knows something
CW: his mother thinks he's a messiah. I want to know why

If this LMT was the same one we saw in the box, then it would have known about "that something" that John Connor knows and it would not be wondering why his mom thinks he's a messiah, it would have been familiar with John Connor's story from the future and how he's the leader of the resistance.

Anyways, just my two cents....

" yes, she's a cyborg, don't pretend you didn't know " lol, SHIRLEY ROCKS!!

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Good points Iovine,
I would expect her to know more.
Maybe Cameron kept that meeting in the future from ever happening, and LMT had to jump up-time to arrange the meeting herself.
Her lack of knowledge may be posturing for Ellison. He sure doesn't have her figured out yet.
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TackDriver1956
TackDriver1956
46. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 1:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 1:43 PM EDT
SM: >>"I love looking at naked bodies, male or female, whenever possible. I think nudity is always tasteful."<<

Ahm lahkin her mawre and mawre awll the tahm.
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Zkyire
Zkyire
47. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 2:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 2:13 PM EDT
"SM: >>"I love looking at naked bodies, male or female, whenever possible. I think nudity is always tasteful."<<

Ahm lahkin her mawre and mawre awll the tahm."
They need to work this into Weaver's character somehow.

"Mr Murch, Mr. Ellison, please report to my office." :P
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bleedmeanocean
bleedmeanocean
48. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 3:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 3:42 PM EDT
"Someone else posted this clip right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaouEkwYQSw

IMO it insinuates that this LMT who took over CW's body wasn't the same one that was in the box. The one in the box knows about John Connor, and CW(Shirley!!) seems to not know much about him. Hell, it seems Ellison knows more about John Connor than CW does.

CW: I want to meet him
Ellison : You want to meet John Connor?
CW: ..........I think he knows something
CW: his mother thinks he's a messiah. I want to know why

If this LMT was the same one we saw in the box, then it would have known about "that something" that John Connor knows and it would not be wondering why his mom thinks he's a messiah, it would have been familiar with John Connor's story from the future and how he's the leader of the resistance.

Anyways, just my two cents....

" yes, she's a cyborg, don't pretend you didn't know " lol, SHIRLEY ROCKS!!

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that could be true, but she also asks 3 other questions and says she wants to know why. i think maybe she just said that to satisfy the curiousity she knew ellison would have as to why she wants to meet him. who knows though, you're probably onto more than i am!

yeah
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thecrusadingknight
thecrusadingknight
49. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 4:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 4:04 PM EDT
One of her songs was included in the Buffy soundtrack. Think it's titled "Wolf in Sheep's clothing." It's a good one.

She has a very distinct voice both in singing and in delivering her lines.
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bleedmeanocean
bleedmeanocean
50. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 7:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 7:14 PM EDT
"They need to work this into Weaver's character somehow.

"Mr Murch, Mr. Ellison, please report to my office." :P"
Haha that's awesome dude - cracked me up thanks!
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Zadokite
Zadokite
51. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 10:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 10:05 PM EDT
"Thanks Bleed. I haven't done face book, but I'll check it out. Do you have a web address?

Thanks in advance.

Zad"
Doh!! My bad. Thanks for the post :)
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Iovine
Iovine
52. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 10:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 10:20 PM EDT
"Maybe Cameron kept that meeting in the future from ever happening, and LMT had to jump up-time to arrange the meeting herself. Her lack of knowledge may be posturing for Ellison.

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that could be true, but she also asks 3 other questions and says she wants to know why.i think maybe she just said that to satisfy the curiousity she knew ellison would have as to why she wants to meet him. who knows though, you're probably onto more than i am! "
@TackDriver1956....That's an interesting point as well. If my theory is wrong and this LMT is the same one from the future then maybe Cameron thought that It meeting John was a bad idea. Maybe she thought it was a threat to John after it decided not to join the resistance and just wanted face to face time with him in order to cause him some harm.

I still hold to my theory though, but i like the way you think.

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At first i thought that it was her just "posturing for Ellison" too, like you said in order to satisfy his curiosity, like Bleed said. But she did straight up tell Ellison to stop pretending that he didn't know Cam was a cyborg. Thus consequently admitting something she just learned about the Connors. IMO that means she wasn't pretending not to know the other details regarding the Connors cuz she's not afraid to reveal to Ellison what she does know as long as it has nothing to do with her mission and her true identity.

I do, however, remember her talking to Ellison (i think) about John in a previous ep. I don't recall completely but she did mention something about him as the future leader or something. But she told the story as if it were a myth and IMO it means that she had just heard about it, not that she lived through the actual events of that story. & Lol Bleed I don't know if I'm actually onto more than you are. Its probably just me over thinking things, as usual.
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TXfan
TXfan
53. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 9 2009, 10:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 9 2009, 11:20 PM EDT
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At first i thought that it was her just "posturing for Ellison" too, like you said in order to satisfy his curiosity, like Bleed said. But she did straight up tell Ellison to stop pretending that he didn't know Cam was a cyborg. Thus consequently admitting something she just learned about the Connors. IMO that means she wasn't pretending not to know the other details regarding the Connors cuz she's not afraid to reveal to Ellison what she does know as long as it has nothing to do with her mission and her true identity.

I do, however, remember her talking to Ellison (i think) about John in a previous ep. I don't recall completely but she did mention something about him as the future leader or something. But she told the story as if it were a myth and IMO it means that she had just heard about it, not that she lived through the actual events of that story. & Lol Bleed I don't know if I'm actually onto more than you are. Its probably just me over thinking things, as usual."
I don't know, I don't think she should be taken at face value when she talks to Ellison. She is more honest when she talks to JH because he is aware of what she is. If she reveals too much to Ellison, he may start to get suspicious, though I am somewhat surprised he isn't already. Then again, he doesn't know everything the audience knows.
She gives Ellison just enough to egg him on, but anything more would reveal her metal identity to him. She knows he knows about the machines, so she can make him come clean about Cameron. But anything more would make him wonder how she knows such things. I think she knows a lot more than she is letting on there (though just how much is not clear. I hope this is cleared up tomorrow). Its almost as if she is testing Ellison; no matter whose side she is on, if she is from the future she would at least know about JC being the leader of the resistance.I am certain she knows at least that much
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Iovine
Iovine
54. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 10 2009, 12:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 10 2009, 12:19 AM EDT
@ TXfan

I definitely agree that we shouldn't believe everything she says. I just don't like it when people just assume she knows everything. And how they assume that she is the same LMT from the future without questioning it. You're right its not clear how much she knows. Maybe what she does know she dismissed it because it didn't directly affect it up until now.

I like to hear different theories, because it to me it means that the audience is so interested intrigue with what's going on that they just can't stop thinking about all the possibilities. I just think that people should look at all the possibilities and form conclusions about each and pick out which one makes more sense to them. But i don' like closed minded assumptions.

You make some really good points and I like your observations. It gives a different perspective to my theory that CW doesn't know it all and that she her knowledge on the Connors is limited.
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TXfan
TXfan
55. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 10 2009, 12:37 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 10 2009, 12:40 AM EDT
"@ TXfan

I definitely agree that we shouldn't believe everything she says. I just don't like it when people just assume she knows everything. And how they assume that she is the same LMT from the future without questioning it. You're right its not clear how much she knows. Maybe what she does know she dismissed it because it didn't directly affect it up until now.

I like to hear different theories, because it to me it means that the audience is so interested intrigue with what's going on that they just can't stop thinking about all the possibilities. I just think that people should look at all the possibilities and form conclusions about each and pick out which one makes more sense to them. But i don' like closed minded assumptions.

You make some really good points and I like your observations. It gives a different perspective to my theory that CW doesn't know it all and that she her knowledge on the Connors is limited."
I completely agree with you here
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Iovine
Iovine
56. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 10 2009, 12:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 10 2009, 12:41 AM EDT
Lol i just noticed how many typing errors i made there......meh Do you find this valuable?    
T-1976
T-1976
57. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 10 2009, 12:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 10 2009, 12:45 AM EDT
"If it's not Scottish.........IT'S CRAP!!!" *plays bagpipes*

I think Weaver is good.......perhaps in her own way, but i think she is.

Look how she dispatched the dudes at the warehouse.

I think Shirley's doing a great job playing her :)
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Iovine
Iovine
58. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 10 2009, 12:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 10 2009, 12:47 AM EDT
""If it's not Scottish.........IT'S CRAP!!!" *plays bagpipes*

I think Weaver is good.......perhaps in her own way, but i think she is.

Look how she dispatched the dudes at the warehouse.

I think Shirley's doing a great job playing her :)"
Ditto.
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RowenMayfair
59. RE: * The Catherine Weaver Fan Thread * aka Shirley Manson
Apr 10 2009, 2:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 10 2009, 2:57 AM EDT
She is amazing. And still such a hottie, at least to me. 43 yrs old and still looking so good. Love what they dress her in, very sexy.
And such a great actress, the woman never flinches or falls out of character.
You can tell she is one of those Terminator fans that has watched the special features more than once.
Robert Patrick is still awesome to this day in T2, but without even lifting a finger, Shirley as Ms Weaver can really bring down the temperature of a room by a large degree.
There's something off about that Catherine Weaver, You know?
Shirley Manson, I love you, your simply perfect. I hope everyday for you is a wonderful day.
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