"Really though, I think of that as a problem with the series as a whole, rather than that scene. Otherwise, I liked the realism factor. I didn't like that they killed Derek, of course, but please, no Hollywood death scenes."

"Lol, I was definitely one of the many Riley haters, and was looking forward to her death (I saw it coming a mile away), right up until the end that is. I still don't like the character and am glad she's gone, but you're right, her fight at the end was fantastic, second only to the various Terminator fights. "

"Yes, Damn Riley! Then on to second base, and third... Oh well, Jameron won in the end anyway lol. And being off-topic is fun.

Personally, my favorite is the safe house fight in the second episode, but the Cromartie ambush was definitely up there for me. The Pilot's one of my favorite episodes, in fact.

Lol, her one and only fan. :p

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"Lol, that boy staring up at Cameron and the other female Terminator was so funny, and you're right, that fight was easily one of the better ones. There's nothing like watching Cameron dominate. I also really liked the fight in "Automatic for People" where Cameron and Sarah teamed up and took down the Greenway T-888. Sarah set him up, and Cameron came in with the take down. And while it's not exactly a fight, Cromartie's whole plan and its execution during "The Mousetrap" was masterfully done. He outsmarted Sarah and Derek there.

And "Samson and Delilah" easily ranks as my favorite, with the pilot coming in second. That one's got it all, action, tragedy, grief, excitement, anticipation, romance, and everything in between. Cameron's emotional outburst scene and John saving her after are easily my favorite scenes of the series. That was so freaky too; there's been a lot of times where I've tried putting myself in John's position there, and I seriously don't know whether I'd have been able to bring myself to pull her chip. At the very least, I'd have put the chip back in her head afterword, just like John did, so that scene was so believable for me. It's exactly what I'd have done. Great episode.

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"Yeah, I remember thinking something along the lines of, "Wow, she can cry?" followed by, "Damn, I don't think I could do it."

I picked up on Jameron around, well there was a few things in the pilot, but mainly the chip removal scene in S1. S2 really made me go down the "they must have been up to something in the future" road, what with the premier and all the references to how close they are in the future, and the kind of relationship they Cameron hinted that they had.

And well..., yeah, you're absolutely right, pulling her chip was the logical choice; I'm just too much of a softy I guess lol. And then there's that whole guy/girl interaction. A lot of guys, me included, have an aversion to even the idea of hurting girls, so that again would worked against me. I guess that's why I'm not the future savior of mankind though lol."

"Lol, playing with hypothetical situations is something I just love to do, cause of course nothing like this would ever really happen, well probably not.

Good points, though the fact that she looks and acts like a girl would still mess with my head a lot. True, intellectually speaking, I would know immediatley that she's really a machine, and I can just as easily put the chip back in. But instinctively, my gut reactions would still probably be to respond to her like she was girl, especially after her performance. I don't know what I'd do. I really don't know.

Of course, On the flip side, you'd certainly live to see another day, while I only might live to see another day, so yours is definitely the smarter choice. Mine is the emotional response, yours is the rational one. You're Spock and I'm McCoy here lol. "

"If only guys could find some way of doing the same to women... "