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eXecutex |
40. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 2:13 AM EDT
That's where you're wrong. The Monday trend was a curve. The show was doing well for mondays. Each drop in ratings on Monday corresponds to a 3 week vacation rating afterwords, and the other drop in ratings was thanks giving, and that wasn't even that specific. Take a look at the chart on this page. It was going well. Delusional is not seeing that the show performed well... for a show without a lead - in it performed excellently, and kept most of its premiere audience. Thinking in Fox's eyes won't give you a medal... it will just get you a lot of people that want to argue with you. No one cares that you can see through Fox's perspective... Bashing people's hopes will not get you a reward in the end just less friends. The most significant rating is due to Friday move, plain and simple. I studied the statistics longer than you have, so you really need to stop embarrassing yourself with inaccurate information. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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41. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 6:31 AM EDT
Holy Christ dude, T:SCC was the lowest rated monday show on any of the 4 major networks for almost its entire run there (the premier was higher, due to Fox's season beginning a week before everyone else's). It was among Fox's worst performing scripted shows up until 'Til Death got yanked from the schedule, at which time it became Fox's worst perfroming scripted show, *period*. If it were not for WB slashing their liscencing fee dramatically, with additional promises of heavy advertising money for T4, the show would have been yanked off the air, no back 9, not even the full initial 13 episodes.You are out of your God-damned mind to keep insisting to the contrary. If your career was in scheduling, you wouldn't last 5 minutes. T:SCC was toast, done, caput. YOU are the one embarassing yourself, and let's not kid ourselves here, you give the game away when you start accusing people "of seeing things through Fox's perspective" and "bashing people's hopes", neither of which have a God-damned thing to do with what sort of ratings a show is getting, nor whether a network will chose to renew a show. 2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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42. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
You're so wrong, the Monday's numbers were a clear indication that TSCC was a greatly performing Scripted Fox show. You must be looking at wrong numbers.
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43. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 5:25 PM EDT
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Tex, gotta argue with you on this one, buddy. Our Monday numbers were fairly poor. We were consistently the 4th rated TV program of the night, behind CBS, ABC, and NBC. Our 18-49 ratings demos for Monday were 2.0 and we've lost fully half a point of that. Network average was a 3.5, we were a full 1.5 points off with 5/6 million viewers every week. To use Friedman's own words: "We were getting creamed on Monday nights." Now we moved to Friday, and we can barely match the ratings of Cops and House reruns (1.4 in 18-49). Now, you're a network exec, and you've got 2 shows, one very cheap to make (Cops) and one very expensive (TSCC) that get the same ratings. Which one you gonna keep?That being said, I think it's time we use the TVBTN guys own words against them. This is from an article which appeared before the broadcast of the Good Wound. "This season, prior to the American Idol premiere, the Fox season to date adults 18-49 viewership average was 3.53 million, or approximately a 2.7 adults 18-49 rating. So for Terminator to reach 73% of that level, it would need an 18-49 demo audience of 2.58 million and a 1.98 18-49 demo rating. Those calculations match up fairly well with what my gut tells me. If Terminator can sustain more than a 2.0 demo rating, it has a reasonable chance of being renewed. Below that, and Terminator is going to be cancelled." Now, if that number includes our DVR viewings (they've decided to say it doesn't), we've got a chance if we break the 2.0 number this Friday. I think it comes down to the ratings this weekend. If we get a nice boost because a) there's no movies this weekend to take our audience away (Fast and the Furious) and b) the T4 promos, we've got a shot. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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44. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 10:02 PM EDT
first executex I salute u for this thread , and arguing with the no it all's! LOL@ nycinne why are you getting so mad ?? its all just opinions and everybody hs one and the right to say what it is. now with Tscc , it is a unusual show with all the movie tie in with wb making both, with it being sci-fi, and fox wanting to "build" a sci-fi block on fridays. also noe of us know all of the things fox will look at when decideing this show and DH fate. they may cancel one ,keep the other or they may cancel both , and they may keep both, to try and build a sci-fi audience on fridays. Tscc has had consistent ratings, S-1 from ep 3 thru ep 9 it avg 8.5 mil, and demo was in the 3's S-2 1st show was 6.3 , after that was 5.5 avg till moved to friday, where it has avg 3.5 mil, and about 1.4 on demo. and on friday the demos for all shows are 2.9 and down, most are in the 1's every week, so to say Tscc has to get a 2.0 is unrealistic. we would need more live viewers to get better demo,and no show with 3.5 mil is going to get demo of 2.0 or higher. that is true even more on friday nite. the other positive is our ratings went " up " for 3 weeks in a row, until this past week.DH has dropped every week in a constant downward trend , and only their demo went up 1 point this week , and ours stayed the same, so I think in some ways we have done better than DH. the bottom line is only "fox "knows if they will keep this show, and "why " they will or wont. Do you find this valuable? |
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eXecutex |
45. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 10:15 PM EDT
I don't wanna even argue this anymore... I know TSCC's ratings were not bad on Mondays.If you still doubt me, I want you to prove it using an accurate XLS file (excel) with verifiable sources that TSCC's ratings were low in Mondays. I'd like a graph too, although I can make the graph for you. If you say TSCC was "horrible on Mondays" YOU NEED TO PROVE IT. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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The_GodfatherSJP |
46. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 10:19 PM EDT
"I don't wanna even argue this anymore... I know TSCC's ratings were not bad on Mondays.I'll need a couple of days, but I'll do it. Not right now though. And this isn't a joke. I'm going to compare it to the other shows at night and its ratings for Season 1, which were much better. Do you find this valuable? |
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47. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 10:22 PM EDT
"I don't wanna even argue this anymore... I know TSCC's ratings were not bad on Mondays.JF says they were getting killed on Mondays ? Every article says it ? MY God why do you think FOX moved the show ? On Fridays they stood a chance of not LOSING as much potential advertising dollars. Do you find this valuable? |
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eXecutex |
48. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 10:25 PM EDT
I think it was moved to Friday to help Dollhouse get ratings... But they didn't realize what a hit BOTH shows would take.
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caeroe |
49. RE: Why Ratings are Good for TSCC
Apr 8 2009, 10:31 PM EDT
"I don't wanna even argue this anymore... I know TSCC's ratings were not bad on Mondays.Prove it? Do you read the above? Even Friedman said they were doing bad on Monday nights. Fox cannot afford to purchase a show from the WB that cannot compete with the other major networks. Cops (Sat) gets more viewers than TSCC (Fri), even after you factor in the DVR numbers. Do you find this valuable? |
