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TooBoku |
Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 7 2009, 7:19 PM EDT
I could see this getting long on the page so perhaps we should move it to a thread.Original Question: mr_green - "Why doesn't John read the chips of the terminators they destroy? That would provide valuable intelligence. More specifically, John ought to read Cameron's chip to see what programming is really in there since she seems to have several sets of programming in her." Answers: [Unknown]In S2E01 the computer John used to read Vick's chip was probably destroyed in the house fire. ---------- [mr_green] Still doesn't explain why he doesn't repeat the trick. ------------ [TooBoku] First, the equipment to PROPERLY perform chip examination does not exist. The equipment they were able to acquire to examine Vick's chip is also very rare. As usual, they were very lucky to get anything at all from Vick's chip in the amount of time they had. However, the most important reason is that the procedure is very dangerous. Vick nearly escaped when they were examining his chip. ---------- [mr_green]Vick only nearly escaped because John didn't disconnect the internet cable and he won't repeat that mistake again. -------------------- [TackDriver] Vic tried to get out via John's mobile phone. With Cam no worries? ---------------- [TooBoku] As seen in "Gnothi Seauton", Cromartie, another T-888, was able to reactivate his body which was some considerable distance away. This demonstrates the capability of a T-888 CPU to communicate wirelessly without a modern internet connection. The only thing it requires is power. Do you find this valuable?
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TooBoku |
1. RE: Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 7 2009, 7:19 PM EDT
Additional Question:[TooBoku]: If John was suspicious of Cameron's programming, why would he risk letting her escape into the Internet? A rogue Terminator AI is several magnitudes more dangerous on the internet than in an endoskeleton as it gives it access to virtually limitless information and automated systems connected to the Internet. Do you find this valuable? |
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TooBoku |
2. RE: Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 8 2009, 11:19 AM EDT
I forgot about this but...After Rosie: the redhead Cameron mangled in "The Tower Is Tall But the Fall Is Short", all new terminators will have a self destruct sequence when their chips are removed. Do you find this valuable? |
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3. RE: Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 8 2009, 12:55 PM EDT
Why doesnt he 'examine her chip'? Well its elementary my dear Watson, that would just be plain immoral, she's a robot, and he's not that kind of boy.
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4. RE: Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 8 2009, 1:06 PM EDT
cause the SCC writers have no good to develop John Character ! when he become a Man ??? when
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TooBoku |
5. RE: Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 8 2009, 8:24 PM EDT
Please keep this topic relevant to the original question. This is not a thread about opinion or hunches but of facts and pragmatic thinking, not Jameron/Anti-Jameron shipping nonsense.Also, at least read through some of the posts of a topic of this nature before replying. Do you find this valuable? |
t5000 |
6. RE: Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 8 2009, 11:55 PM EDT
"cause the SCC writers have no good to develop John Character ! when he become a Man ??? when "In the very last show ??.......maybe Do you find this valuable? |
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7. RE: Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 9 2009, 2:04 AM EDT
We are certain that John is suspicious of her programming, if he wasn't he wouldn't want that detonator, he would have handed it right back to her and ask her to remove the explosives in her head. We don't need to debate whether John is suspicious, I take it as granted that he is. Otherwise his actions lie. If we can't even agree upon that, I see no reason to continue this thread.If you're worried that she will escape into the internet during the investigation then you think she's a threat - in that case you should be arguing that she should be completely deactivated and not "left alone". Wireless communication isn't insurmountable either - just do the investigation inside a large metal box and no wireless signals can escape. Leave mobile phones on the outside. I think an investigation is technically feasible and now it's time to agree to disagree. Do you find this valuable? |
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TooBoku |
8. RE: Why John Doesn't Examine Cameron's Chip
Apr 9 2009, 7:53 AM EDT
"If you're worried that she will escape into the internet during the investigation then you think she's a threat - in that case you should be arguing that she should be completely deactivated and not "left alone"."Whether John is suspocious of Cameron or not, he would have accepted the detonator regardless. It is power. It also doesn't mean he is suspicious of her motives if he does accept it. Cameron still has the potential "go bad" again. However, the situation points to the conclusion that he indeed is suspicious. It is not unlike John to be "dancing with the devil" so to speak. Riley was an example of this as he suspected she was from the future for some time before he actually acted upon it. He first needed to know. If he cast her away before being sure, he would never have found out about Jesse. Also, Ellison knows how dangerous Cromartie was. What posessed him to bring the endo to Weaver? The need for information. The need to find out her intentions. Police officers posing as prostitutes cannot just arrest people who pick them up. The actual offer of money in exchange for sex must take place. Also, it may be possible to stop communication by conducting the experament in a faraday lined box However, the need for this eliminated by the explosive in Cameron's head. The most probable reason howver, is that there hasn't been enough time in the series yet to explore that option. Do you find this valuable? |
