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Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:31 PM EDT
Something has been bugging me ever since JH was "attacked." There has never been any indication through 2 seasons that another AI existed. The only other sentient AI's besides JH have been Vick (arguable), CW and Cameron. We know Vick has been terminated, and all of the other Terminators were mission-specific drones (Greenway, Carter, Cromartie, Pretzel Girl, Waterboy, and so on. CW and Cameron are the only known Terminators that can interact with humans on a daily basis, and are both sentient and self-aware. This leaves me wondering if Cameron tried to attack and destroy JH. Nothing would surprise me after Derek was taken out. What if Cameron is Skynet? What if it came back in the form of Cameron to get close to John, and ensure the future existence of Skynet. The Skynet in the future is everywhere. What if Skynet embedded itself inside Cameron and sent itself back in time (that is, if you want something done right, do it yourself). Maybe Skynet is losing the war in the future, is "frustrated" at the failed attempts to kill Sarah and John, and figures if it went back in time, it could learn from its mistakes. What if the red button does nothing. Just a thought. 5 out of 16 found this valuable. Do you?
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HawkDsl |
1. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:33 PM EDT
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LiquidMetal |
2. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:35 PM EDT
"Are U the Real LQ??Brain cramp. Do you find this valuable? |
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Veran |
3. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:36 PM EDT
There are some who would say Cameron being Skynet is the biggest Jump the shark ever, while others will say it is an appropriate revelation to all her secrets. I have to wonder though; if Cameron is Skynet, what does her behaviour and apparent intimacy with John represent?
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4. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:38 PM EDT
"Something has been bugging me ever since JH was "attacked."you are forgeting one important thing mod man Charlies "in charge" fisher planted something inside a military computer in complications. Plus I'm staring to think that CW built Cameron not Skynet. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:38 PM EDT
I dont believe Cameron has sinister intentions. Everything she has done so far has had an explaination, even though it appeared at first that she was doing something bad. Such as keeping the chips, hoarding the parts, etc.... If Cameron DID turn out to be like you said, then it would be a MAJOR reversal of everything that has happened so far. IMPHO, it would wreck the show and potentially kill any S3 hopes we have. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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6. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:39 PM EDT
One thing I would really, really not get about this idea is: if Skynet was Cameron (or part of Cameron) why would it bother to risk infiltrating Future John's base in order to send itself back through time?It has its own time machines, and Past John would be none the wiser that she din't know the "super secret password" to the Connor camp. Also, why would it allow Skynet resources to be plundered? Like the Coltan bunker, ARTIE, or even Serano Point? P.S. On the topic of false identities. I'm not the real Deadpool. Just Hugh Jackman and FOX's butchered version of the Merc-With-A-Mouth. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:46 PM EDT
Surely Skynet knows that John has been re-programming its terminators, so why would it take the chance that John would either discover its programming within Cameron, or disrupt the Skynet software in her thats supposed to do harm in the course of him re-programming her. I.E.....mess up its mission 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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8. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:47 PM EDT
"There are some who would say Cameron being Skynet is the biggest Jump the shark ever, while others will say it is an appropriate revelation to all her secrets. I have to wonder though; if Cameron is Skynet, what does her behaviour and apparent intimacy with John represent?"Get close to John, understand how he thinks and acts, become a confidant. Use what it learns to manipulate the present. Call the police and get Sarah locked up. Give John a locket with a red button to ease his concerns. Get John's attention. Come back as a female. After studying humans, Skynet should know how males and females behave and interact. Keep John off guard. Cameron going to the library at night is learning, finding out why some Terminators it sent back did not complete their assignment. Cameron's hesitation in terminating Greenway has always bothered me (only after seeing Sarah did she do away with Greenway). Throw Waterboy down a hill (what, no terminating). The Terminators we have seen so far would not be aware that Skynet itself has come back in time. This explains Cameron's doing away with them as needed. These Terminators had done what they were supposed to do in Skynet's time line, but that future looks bleak for Skynet. What better way to save itself, then by going back in time and undoing all of the things that did not work. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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9. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:49 PM EDT
Done right, I don't think it would be a Jump the shark moment. I think it could be really interesting twist, that opens up a whole galaxy of new questions for the show to deal with.
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10. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:53 PM EDT
I threw that out that Cameron using the computer at night might have been the other, she mentioned very matter of factly of hacking Dekara systems, "I don't sleep" She can and does hack.
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11. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:57 PM EDT
"I threw that out that Cameron using the computer at night might have been the other, she mentioned very matter of factly of hacking Dekara systems, "I don't sleep" She can and does hack."where did she use a computer at night? Tell me Do you find this valuable? |
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12. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 7:59 PM EDT
the waterboy at the warehouse who kidnapped Derek....he was taking instructions on his phone from someone on how to take Cameron's chip from her head.....if Cameron is Skynet...does that mean the waterboys (and waterboy Term) were the good guys???
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13. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 8:11 PM EDT
"where did she use a computer at night? Tell me"Cameron learned the Dekara corporation had done AI work for the military. She said I hacked their computers. The ep she dressed up in the black dress.......... 1 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 8:13 PM EDT
"the waterboy at the warehouse who kidnapped Derek....he was taking instructions on his phone from someone on how to take Cameron's chip from her head.....if Cameron is Skynet...does that mean the waterboys (and waterboy Term) were the good guys???"Thats doubtful i would think. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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15. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 8:15 PM EDT
"I threw that out that Cameron using the computer at night might have been the other, she mentioned very matter of factly of hacking Dekara systems, "I don't sleep" She can and does hack."well she should know how to hack. she's Cameron Connor 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 8:18 PM EDT
"Get John's attention. Come back as a female. After studying humans, Skynet should know how males and females behave and interact. Keep John off guard. Cameron going to the library at night is learning, finding out why some Terminators it sent back did not complete their assignment. Cameron's hesitation in terminating Greenway has always bothered me (only after seeing Sarah did she do away with Greenway). Throw Waterboy down a hill (what, no terminating)."IIRC, this was one of the first theories brought up after season 1 ended and posters here needed stuff to discuss. Don't think it was ever resolved to everybody's satisfaction. Con: If she is a partial copy of the Skynet AI, why is John still alive? Wouldn't she have already learned enough about human interactions? And she did off the pretzel-bot even before her pretzel-mission really started - and seemed pretty startled to encounter her. Plus, John had the opportunity to examine her memories while her chip was pulled, but she allowed it anyway. Pro: As you pointed out, Cam has had the motive, means, and opportunity to do everything you said. And most of all, it IS exactly the sort of thing that executive producer Josh Friedman loves to do. How many times has he blindsided fans with something major? Be honest... Final answer... I could go either way on this. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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17. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 8:18 PM EDT
"Cameron learned the Dekara corporation had done AI work for the military. She said I hacked their computers. The ep she dressed up in the black dress.........."I honestly don't remember Cameron hacking anything. John hacked Dakara's hardrives, not Cameron Do you find this valuable? |
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18. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 8:26 PM EDT
"Cameron learned the Dekara corporation had done AI work for the military. She said I hacked their computers. The ep she dressed up in the black dress.........."That was John, genius. Do you find this valuable? |
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19. RE: Is Cameron the "Other"?
Apr 7 2009, 8:28 PM EDT
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"That was John, genius."I take that back Caneron hacked Sherman's records............... 0 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |