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THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
Apr 30 2009, 8:26 PM EDT
With John now in the Future with his father Kyle!!!!!! Now, there are a few thoughts out there that have Kyle coming back with John to the present.Assuming that this can happen, or that Kyle himself comes back later, can this mean that sparks will fly with Sarah???? It happened before, it will happen again!!!!! This is the thread to post all things Kyle and Sarah, or as Ive dubbed them: KARAH 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Blackbriar724 |
1. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
Apr 30 2009, 8:30 PM EDT
"With John now in the Future with his father Kyle!!!!!! Now, there are a few thoughts out there that have Kyle coming back with John to the present.Personally I think Kyle should stay in the future and be dead in the present. I think it cheapens the first movie a bit if they were to bring him back to the present. Also we don't even know if this Kyle has the same love for Sarah that the other ones have had, and I'm inclined to say he doesn't. Plus Sarah would just come across as a total cougar, she's a good ten to fifteen years older then Kyle now. Do you find this valuable? |
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ScotWithOne_t |
2. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
Apr 30 2009, 8:30 PM EDT
Please... make it stop.
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ShelterWolf |
3. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
Apr 30 2009, 8:43 PM EDT
The circumstances that led to Kyle's long distance love for Sarah don't apply to the new timeline. Didn't John as leader give that picture of Sarah to Kyle? Kyle probably doesn't have her picture, but I'm sure Kyle and the rest probably have some stories to tell about Sarah and her exploits with Ellison and Viera Corp.
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Blackbriar724 |
4. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
Apr 30 2009, 8:43 PM EDT
Yeah throwing it out there I've had about enough of the name merging. Jameron, Jallison, Jiley, CamHenry, Serek, Suckmynuts....
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ShelterWolf |
5. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
Apr 30 2009, 8:46 PM EDT
"Yeah throwing it out there I've had about enough of the name merging. Jameron, Jallison, Jiley, CamHenry, Serek, Suckmynuts...."The whole terminator romance started with Karah, nothing wrong with giving it the demeaning publicity treatment. Do you find this valuable? |
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Schmacky |
6. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 12:32 AM EDT
"The circumstances that led to Kyle's long distance love for Sarah don't apply to the new timeline. Didn't John as leader give that picture of Sarah to Kyle? Kyle probably doesn't have her picture, but I'm sure Kyle and the rest probably have some stories to tell about Sarah and her exploits with Ellison and Viera Corp. "Let's say Kyle ends up in the past... and it's possible. There really is no reason he can't. It's the first time that it's possible for Kyle to go back to the present and it make sense (sense in the realm of this universe anyway). But let's say he goes back.. He doesn't know Sarah Connor and she already loves him. ... it's the complete opposite of T1. Sarah didn't know Kyle, he was already in love with her, but she ended up falling for him even though she didn't know him. Same could happen here. If the show takes the approach of "true love" then it could work. It doesn't matter if Kyle was "groomed" to love Sarah or not.. or that she's like 10 years older than he is. If it's "true love" they'll fall in love again. Plus, it would be all sorts of drama because again.. Kyle doesn't know Sarah, but Sarah knows Kyle and already has experiences with him... awesomeness in that premise. 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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K8ie |
7. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 1:04 AM EDT
"Plus Sarah would just come across as a total cougar, she's a good ten to fifteen years older then Kyle now.So? Sexist much? Daniel Craig is a good 10 to 15 years older than every female cast member of Quantum of Solace (excluding Dame Dench) and no one said a thing. As for cheapening the movie - I think you have to get over that. If you're going to treat the movies as an inviolable space, you might as well quit watching. TSCC has done an excellent job of putting everything into play and, were they to bring Kyle into the present, I'm sure they'd do the same excellent job they did when they introduced Derek Reese. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Blackbriar724 |
8. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 1:47 AM EDT
"So? Sexist much?Yeah? got a point? Kinda different in Bond where no ones age is ever stated then a show with a consistent timeline where everyone's ages are established. I don't mean cheapens the movie itself, I mean what happens between Sarah and [I]that[/] Kyle. It would be like if John just found another chip and put it in Cameron's body instead of going to the future after her's. Sure on the outside their the same but what originally made that special wouldn't be there anymore. Do you find this valuable? |
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Schmacky |
9. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 1:54 AM EDT
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"Yeah? got a point?K8ie's point is... so what if she's older than he is? How is that a problem? And this isn't Kyle's twin. This is KYLE. He doesn't know her.. but what makes Kyle .. well, Kyle is still the same. It'd be an interesting parallel with Derek and Jesse. Derek was all "you're not my Jesse so I don't love you anymore." If they explored this Sarah/Kyle thing.. it'd be the opposite of that. Different versions of each other, but still drawn together because... of what? True love, attraction, whatever ya wanna call it. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Blackbriar724 |
10. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 2:09 AM EDT
"K8ie's point is... so what if she's older than he is? How is that a problem?If there is no John Connor in his timeline there is no way that's the same Kyle Reese. The reason Kyle fell in love with Sarah was because of John. If there's no John that's not going to happen in the same way. Who knows how this Kyle thinks because John Connor wasn't there to guide him. For all we know this one is a total dick or crazy or something. Also I got K8ie's point. I was saying yes I'm a bit of a sexiest, no I don't see her point, and I think her Bond analogy is flawed. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Schmacky |
11. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 2:16 AM EDT
"If there is no John Connor in his timeline there is no way that's the same Kyle Reese. The reason Kyle fell in love with Sarah was because of John. If there's no John that's not going to happen in the same way. Who knows how this Kyle thinks because John Connor wasn't there to guide him. For all we know this one is a total dick or crazy or something."Dude, that's almost the point of having Kyle back. First of all.. now this is just opinion.. but I doubt Kyle is a dick or completely different of a man because John doesn't exist. Sure, John had some influence over Kyle.. but Kyle is Kyle because that's who he is. People don't REALLY change. They might change beliefs and ways of life, but the type of people they are.. that's there from almost the beginning. You look at a toddler and fast forward 20 years, you'll see a lot of similarities. Anyway.. so, this Kyle might not have all the same experiences that Sarah's Kyle had... but he's still Kyle. And you can't give a reason as to why he fell in love with Sarah. I mean, really.. you think he fell in love with Sarah just because of a picture? Really? Love can't even be truly defined and explained.. you can't really describe why it is you love the person you love. You just do. It's quite complex. Did Kyle fall in love with Sarah because he had a picture of her or because he was meant to? Is it destiny? True love? Fate? What is it that made a man fall in love with a woman he didn't even know and knew had been dead for many years and what makes a woman stay in love with a man that had died 17 years ago whom she only had one night with? That can't be explained. Not logically anyway. There is no logic to love. And that is what would be interesting to explore. Would Kyle and Sarah fall in love again? Would they hate each other? Only tolerate each other? Indifferent? Friends? Lovers? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Schmacky |
12. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 2:19 AM EDT
There would be much to explore. Not just on Kyle's side. But on Sarah's. What would she think of him? Know it's not the Kyle that she loved and saw die and want nothing to do with him? Would she be drawn to him? There's so many questions, I can't even ask them all. If Kyle isn't sent back, I have no problem with that. But if he did, I'd be totally on board. I have full faith in the writers that they would make it work.. no matter how crazy it would be. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Schmacky |
13. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 12:33 PM EDT
Really? Silence?
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14. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 12:44 PM EDT
I agree with Schmacky. I'ts just TOO AWESOME a road not to go down.
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Schmacky |
15. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 12:48 PM EDT
"I agree with Schmacky. I'ts just TOO AWESOME a road not to go down."Half of me honestly thinks they'll go down that road just because Josh had originally wanted to do it so bad. Well, now he has the means and opportunity.. I think he just might do it. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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16. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 12:48 PM EDT
"Personally I think Kyle should stay in the future and be dead in the present. I think it cheapens the first movie a bit if they were to bring him back to the present. Also we don't even know if this Kyle has the same love for Sarah that the other ones have had, and I'm inclined to say he doesn't.nothing wrong with cougars my friend..lol Do you find this valuable? |
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Zkyire |
17. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 12:48 PM EDT
"Really? Silence?"For the most part, if there's no Jameron; there's no interest. I personally think that bringing Kyle back would lessen the impact he made in T1. But, if done right, they could make up for that over time and ultimately end up with a pretty damn good arc. Do you find this valuable? |
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Schmacky |
18. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 12:56 PM EDT
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"For the most part, if there's no Jameron; there's no interest.I totally understand and respect that opinion people have. But I don't think it would cheapen his death because that Kyle with those experiences will never be back. Sarah will never have that Kyle back. If he really did come back into the present and Sarah saw him... she'd be uber confused. She knows he's dead but he's standing right there but she'll know that he didn't come back from the dead. From his point of view, this is the first time meeting Sarah. It'd be new, yet familar territory for Sarah. That's just something insanely crazy to explore... it's the same man, but a different person? ya know? Is that like cheating on T1 Kyle? Is that like forsaking his memory? What would it mean to interact and connect with a person you used to love that doesn't even know you and who ultimately the same person yet not? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Zkyire |
19. RE: THE OFFICIAL KARAH THREAD
May 1 2009, 1:00 PM EDT
"I totally understand and respect that opinion people have.I know, if they bring him back into that with Sarah just for the hell of it? I'd be totally, 100% against it. But if they did it like how you suggested, what with Sarah horribly torn between what she felt for T1 Kyle and what she still feels now, and constantly questioning whether she actually cares for this Kyle, or if it's just that residual feeling for the old Kyle transplanted onto him - that I could get behind. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |