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Zkyire
Zkyire
40. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 10:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 10:42 AM EDT
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SwanSun
41. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 11:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 11:04 AM EDT
"All this bullshit about humans making terminators and Skynet just stealing the designs is getting on my nerves.

Humans making early HKs and T1s is fine.
.......
Please, please, please leave the designing and building of nightmarish terminators and death machines to Skynet. Not meatsacks.
"
Basically, yeah. The scenario you described makes Skynet the underdog, instead of us humans.

This Planet Of The Apes style revelation "omg Skynet didn't design this super advanced tech and nuke the world.... IT WAS T3H HUMANS ALL ALONG!1!!1" is a dumb stupid story. Humans should be stealing tech from Skynet, desperately trying to keep up with Skynet's massive advances in hardware.

Isn't it established already that the TDE, T1000, all advanced tech is Skynet designed? Even TSCC didn't screw with the story as _badly_ as this.
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KrelleK
42. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 1:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 1:07 PM EDT
If that is how T4(which i have seen, pretty good, but would rather have 4 spanking new seasons of Sarah Connor Chronicles) then I would rather have Sarah Connor to continue with even more seasons, than have a T5-6, if they should make a T5-6 then I think they should make it so that the time it depict is the Timeline that Cameron came from, to save young John, which means we need Summer G to get a role in them, first as allison, then as Cam, and would like the last 10 mins of the movie, be that Cam is sent back in chase of those who where sent back to hoarding metal, and other stuff, and to Kill john, and pretty much have a like a quickly rundown the days(73) to be exact, that Cams spends looking for young John Connor, and end with Cam comming into class seing the young man that happens to be John, and role into this scene Cam: What´s your name, John: John, Cam: Cameron Do you find this valuable?    

DeadpooI
43. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 2:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 5:40 PM EDT
On top of everything else that's stupid about the rumoured plot for Terminator 5, there's the fact that Skynet would stand no chance against pre-Judgement Day humanity.

Why the f**k would it want to challenge its enemy at the peek of their power? 6.7+ billion humans; armed with tanks, aircraft, navies, and not all sterilised/dying of radiation sickness. It had enough trouble with a scrappy bunch of Luke Skywalker types...
I don't care if they wouldn't be expecting an attack through time, Skynet doesn't even have enough power to take down humanity when it has taken them back to the stone age (i.e. in the Post J-Day world.)
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reilly.b.reese
44. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 3:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 3:30 PM EDT
"On top of everything else that's stupid about the rumoured plot for Terminator 5, there's the fact that Skynet would stand no chance against pre-Judgement Day humanity.

Why the f**k would it want to challenge its enemy at the peek of their power? 6.7+ billion humans; armed with tanks, aircraft, navies, and not all sterilised/dying of radiation sickness. It had enough trouble with a scrappy bunch of Luke Skywalker types...
I don't care if they wouldn't be expecting an attack through time, Skynet doesn't have enough power to take down humanity when it has taken them back to the stone age. "
Actually that's a thought. I'd ever neven considered that. Depending on whether or not they sent their entire arsenal through with them, Skynet wouldn't stand a chance against us.

Also (thinking out loud here so bear with me) if McG wants to use a storyline where Skynet sends everything they have through time to before Judgment Day in a surprise attack against mankind, wouldn't it make more sense to send everything after Sarah Connor before she gave birth to John? One pregnant woman (and no doubt the grown up John Connor) vs an entire army of killer robots in the '80s = win for Skynet.
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Marcus_Wright
Marcus_Wright
45. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 3:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 3:32 PM EDT
"Actually that's a thought. I'd ever even considered that. Depending on whether or not they sent their entire arsenal through with them, Skynet wouldn't stand a chance against us.

Also (thinking out loud here so bear with me) if McG wants to use a storyline where Skynet sends everything they have through time to before Judgment Day in a surprise attack against mankind, wouldn't it make more sense to send everything after Sarah Connor before she gave birth to John? One pregnant woman (and no doubt the grown up John Connor) vs an entire army of killer robots in the '80s = win for Skynet."
if they sent all that to 84 sarah is dead no john that way skynet would def win, however they wont do that in the movies because i think in the end humanity will defeat skynet
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reilly.b.reese
46. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 3:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 3:39 PM EDT
"if they sent all that to 84 sarah is dead no john that way skynet would def win, however they wont do that in the movies because i think in the end humanity will defeat skynet"
Yeah I agree. Even if Skynet did send everything they've got through to the 1980s (or even the 1800s) it wouldn't matter in the long run because I'm sure the writers would find some way for John Connor to defeat them all there and then lol.
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PyroDude
47. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 4:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 4:01 PM EDT
You know what it is? This is all going to end up being a plot by some mysterious entity, let us call them "Shadows" where humanity must be forced to evolve by war. Skynet was the creation of these "Shadows" but due to a conflict with another group, let's call them "Vorlons" Skynet got out of control and went overboard in its war. It was never meant to nuke humanity and exterminate them. Merely wage a very destructive war, make humanity strong again after we've gone all soft.

I give up, that sounds stupid.
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DeadpooI
48. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 5:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 5:46 PM EDT
Skynet sending back all its forces to kill Sarah Connor in 1984 is retarded.
So retarded that McG might actually do it.

So what if it sends a bajillion tanks to 1984 Los Angeles and kills Sarah, thus ending John?
It'll change history so much that it'll likely never be built be in the future (who's going to build a robot intelligence when a bunch of robots just trashed Los Angeles?)
And even the Skynet forces that were sent to 1984 wouldn't survive. They''ll be crushed by 6 billion, non-irradiated humans and the combined arsenal of every nation on Earth (though the USA alone could defeat Skynet if it landed in Los Angeles.)

It'd be effectively throwing in the towel JUST to kill John Connor, who would become completely irrelevant the minute Skynet destroys the normal course of history and erases all probability that it'll ever be built.
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KrelleK
49. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 7:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 7:03 PM EDT
"T4 Salvation was a great movie. It was not better than the incredible action filled T2 and it does not have
Arnold but it still was a exciting chapter in Terminator. Financially it is doing OK, its not the 1st on its release
weekends , but it was a close second. Thats not a flop. The universal hate of T3 and now supposed terminator
fans hating this movie means one thing, your not a fan of Terminator anymore. There is no comic book or novel
this franchise is based on . Its a changing evolving fight for the future !
edit: It won't surprise me that the go with the same team of writers they have been using since T3. I'm pretty sure
these guys are backed by people like Arnold and others within the franchise. They are trusted to stick to the original
vision or close enough to it to not alienate its fanbase. The outcry over T3 is something seen in other franchises
James Cameron has left like Aliens, some think none can do better than him....."
I liked the movie, as i have mentioned earlier, but i must say that i prefer TtSCC, and I also thought the resistance had to much going for them, planes and choppers, not many probably, but i kinda missed the whole converted pickup or muscle cars that I think one of the cars we saw in either T1 or T2 was, and it was to light/day, i know they might best for humans to fight in the day, instead of night, and that little trip to to was that century labor camp? was that not supposed to be a visit for quite a few years, and have John show the prisoners how to gang up on the machines, and take there weapons and such, that was atleast what I got T1 Kyle Reese.

and this particular must have traveled back, and startet the war we witness in this movie, because Skynet should first of not know about Kyle Reese, maybe as prisoner then they had gotten him in, but not as Johns father, and Skynet should only know John connr, as another prisoner, but not as it nemesis
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KrelleK
50. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 7:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 7:12 PM EDT
"We're "gonna be swimming in a river of sick with no floaties on."

From wikipedia (with references). Make of it what you will:
"McG said the time displacement equipment and the T-1000 will be reintroduced in the fifth film: "I like the idea and the perspective for the next picture that you meet Robert Patrick the way he looks today, and he's a scientist that's working on, you know, improving cell replication so we can stay healthier and we can cure diabetes and do all these things that sound like good ideas, and to once again live as idealized expressions as ourselves."[8][9]

McG added the fifth film "is likely to be" about Connor himself timetravelling to 2011 to galvanize the world's forces against a Skynet attack, which would explore a "survivalist creature in our world doing his best to bring the world up to speed on an impending doom... and one could argue he meets his mother. I strongly suspect Linda Hamilton to be the star of the next film." McG also said the origin story they had in mind for the T-1000 would satirize the world's "obsession" with youth and aging,[11][12] and also described having "hunter killers and transports and harvesters and everything arriving in our time and Connor fighting back with conventional military warfare."[13]

References:
[8] - http://www.showbizcafe.com/en/news/terminator-salvation-first-review/1423
[9] - http://www.thearnoldfans.com/news/1421.htm
[11] - Jonathan Dean (June 2009). "Beyond Salvation". Total Film: pp. 65.
[12] - http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20895
[13] - http://www.filmjournal.com/filmjournal/content_display/news-and-features/features/movies/e3ida99bf36787f149a761c5190f90c8c7a"
well if he is supposed to meet his mother, he needs to go back to atleast 1999, pretty much also includes helping the world, because war start in 2003
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AverageJo
AverageJo
51. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 7:53 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 7:54 PM EDT
"I don't care if they wouldn't be expecting an attack through time, Skynet doesn't even have enough power to take down humanity when it has taken them back to the stone age (i.e. in the Post J-Day world.) "
Stopping Skynet - So easy a caveman could do it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H02iwWCrXew
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joe33087
52. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 8:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 8:18 PM EDT
"Skynet sending back all its forces to kill Sarah Connor in 1984 is retarded.
So retarded that McG might actually do it.

So what if it sends a bajillion tanks to 1984 Los Angeles and kills Sarah, thus ending John?
It'll change history so much that it'll likely never be built be in the future (who's going to build a robot intelligence when a bunch of robots just trashed Los Angeles?)
And even the Skynet forces that were sent to 1984 wouldn't survive. They''ll be crushed by 6 billion, non-irradiated humans and the combined arsenal of every nation on Earth (though the USA alone could defeat Skynet if it landed in Los Angeles.)

It'd be effectively throwing in the towel JUST to kill John Connor, who would become completely irrelevant the minute Skynet destroys the normal course of history and erases all probability that it'll ever be built. "
HKs? In what meatbags, deadpool?
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Zkyire
Zkyire
53. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 8:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 8:34 PM EDT
"Skynet sending back all its forces to kill Sarah Connor in 1984 is retarded.
So retarded that McG might actually do it.

So what if it sends a bajillion tanks to 1984 Los Angeles and kills Sarah, thus ending John?
It'll change history so much that it'll likely never be built be in the future (who's going to build a robot intelligence when a bunch of robots just trashed Los Angeles?)
And even the Skynet forces that were sent to 1984 wouldn't survive. They''ll be crushed by 6 billion, non-irradiated humans and the combined arsenal of every nation on Earth (though the USA alone could defeat Skynet if it landed in Los Angeles.)

It'd be effectively throwing in the towel JUST to kill John Connor, who would become completely irrelevant the minute Skynet destroys the normal course of history and erases all probability that it'll ever be built. "
Deadpool!
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MMM.MIND
MMM.MIND
54. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 14 2009, 9:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 14 2009, 9:54 PM EDT
WB and Halcyon have very good opportunities with terminator

WB and Halcyon can make a great T5 movie, with critics review A+ and People review A+, with excellent box office, however they have to make tough good choices about the written story, director and actors.... It is easy fail but hard to success
Good luck WB and Halcyon, make money.. Make me happy with a great terminator movie…
WB and Halcyon can make a great Terminator Sara Connor Chronicle Movie too:
An Episode of TSCC cost about 2 millions (some episodes as good as a movie) they can make a good movie for 15? Million, plus 30 Millions in Advertisement. About 45 Million Budget
They have 31 air episodes to make Market research, 31 episodes to find what is good of TSCC to put in a movie and what is not good. It will help a lot to make a great movie with great reviews from people, critics, with a good Box Office.
A good Terminator Movie will have an excellent Box Office. T1 was a great Terminator movie with a great profit, great written story, and low budget. I believe that a good TSCC have a good chance of be a box office hit.
TSCC have a great written story,
TSCC Good critics (B,B+,A)
Strong Fan base
In a worst case scenario a good TSCC movie will have at least 120 Millions Box Office; because just Terminator name will make around 100 Million Box Office..
It will be excellent for WB and Halcyon have two big products, more products more money and less risk, have all eggs in one basket is not the best (Terminator salvation movies).
It is true I do not have solid number and good market studies but if you know terminator world, TSCC, you understand that must be many true here…
Good luck WB and Halcyon, make money.. Make me happy with a great TSCC movie…
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DeadpooI
55. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 15 2009, 3:26 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 15 2009, 3:26 AM EDT
"Deadpool!"
Father Zkyire!
WAZZUP?!
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#87
56. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 15 2009, 3:37 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 15 2009, 3:37 AM EDT
"maybe this is why cameron didnt want to make the films in the future or any at all after t-2 maybe he thought he couldnt do the future war due to time line problems or something, i thank mcg for giving imo a solid action film in the future that showed me the future john i wanted to see and more of kyle"
He has said many times, that the story was over. People can interpret that any way they want to, or come up with an excuse as to why T3, Tscc and T5 had to be made.
But sometimes you have to take what is said at face value. and in this case, I think time told the tale of James Camerons feeling towards the franchise and his subsequent not making of the post Judgement day movies.
I loved T5, and enjoyed the show at times.
But, Considering how many complaints, collectively, that exist with people and T3, Tscc, T5, maybe James is right, Maybe the story has been over this whole time.
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Marcus_Wright
Marcus_Wright
57. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 15 2009, 3:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 15 2009, 3:48 AM EDT
"He has said many times, that the story was over. People can interpret that any way they want to, or come up with an excuse as to why T3, Tscc and T5 had to be made.
But sometimes you have to take what is said at face value. and in this case, I think time told the tale of James Camerons feeling towards the franchise and his subsequent not making of the post Judgement day movies.
I loved T5, and enjoyed the show at times.
But, Considering how many complaints, collectively, that exist with people and T3, Tscc, T5, maybe James is right, Maybe the story has been over this whole time."
true i think the movie and series went over a little better than T-3 though

i mean the series had a good story [besides the 3 dot bs]

and the movie had a lot of action and a ok story [still holding out hope the deleted scenes will help story a bit]
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#87
58. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 15 2009, 3:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 15 2009, 3:47 AM EDT
"true i think the movie and series went over a little better than T-3 though"
Light years ahead of that train wreck.

You know, its because of Kristana Loken, that we see all these damn Terminator actors doing twitches and turning their heads sideways.
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Marcus_Wright
Marcus_Wright
59. RE: Terminator 5
Jun 15 2009, 3:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 15 2009, 3:54 AM EDT
"Light years ahead of that train wreck.

You know, its because of Kristana Loken, that we see all these damn Terminator actors doing twitches and turning their heads sideways."
damn i didnt realize she started that!!! i need to watch all of t3 again sometime i guess [oh joy] the action scene in t-3 is really good tho with all the cars and equipment chasing after john and kate in the green tundra
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