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Marcus_Wright |
60. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 12:53 PM EDT
"Kyle as a villain? Now that would have been a pretty good twist. I can imagine him and John being at odds with each other on account of John's knowledge of Skynet or something. "if they had kyle as a villian in season 3 i think i would turn it off for good Do you find this valuable? |
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61. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 12:53 PM EDT
"In the end Alison was mentioned , along with radical changes. We were not going to see Cameron again any time1) Josh said Cameron would return. 2) Weaver and John Henry are good-guy terminators. Do you find this valuable? |
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TentoTwenty |
62. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 12:55 PM EDT
"if they had kyle as a villian in season 3 i think i would turn it off for good"Agreed 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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63. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 12:58 PM EDT
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"1) Josh said Cameron would return.Ok stick to that, but a guy that complains about weak stories , you tell me how they were going to restore Cameron in less than 10 episodes without looking like BSG/jumping the shark bigtime with a new Cameron just flying in from God. edit: Starbuck's ship and self were blown up and it seems God sent a new Starbuck back to lead humanity, thats what I'm referring to. Do you find this valuable? |
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Gusar |
64. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 12:59 PM EDT
"How can anyone expect an 18 year old guy to lead a Resistance? I never even thought for one second that that time line would be allowed to continue. I figured John would get Cameron, maybe grab Derek along the way, and do whatever else they had planned for the Future aspect before returning to the present with Sarah with John now completely aware of JD's implications, his own importance, and what he ultimately faces. "Yup, that's in my mind as well. That John's stay in the future would be brief - teaming up with Weaver and John Henry, doing a mission and then returning to the past with Cameron's chip. But in the future, there'd be quite some drama concerning Allison, as James Middleton said. Do you find this valuable? |
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65. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:00 PM EDT
"if they had kyle as a villian in season 3 i think i would turn it off for good"It's not exactly our Kyle though is it? Think about it; John Connor was pretty much Kyle's hero, his great inspiration, and without out that hope what would he have become? It's an entirely new Kyle Reese, so there's no telling what he'd have been like. Not saying they would have done it, but I'd have liked the idea. They could have made Derek a conflicted character too, being torn between supporting his brother and following the ideas of the new kid. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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reilly.b.reese |
66. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:00 PM EDT
I dunno, I think it would be a pretty interesting storyline. Realistically if a stranger turned up out of the blue with extensive knowledge of Skynet, I think the Resistance would probably clash with them on account of that.
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DeadpooI |
67. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:00 PM EDT
"Ok stick to that, but a guy that complains about weak stories , you tell me how"Was that English? Do you find this valuable? |
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Timeloop |
68. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:07 PM EDT
"Yup, that's in my mind as well. That John's stay in the future would be brief - teaming up with Weaver and John Henry, doing a mission and then returning to the past with Cameron's chip. But in the future, there'd be quite some drama concerning Allison, as James Middleton said."Agreed. After all S3 would not drop characters like Sarah, Savannah, Ellison who are in the past. Also John's decision to go into the future was the right one from a survival poit of view. With Cameron gone and CW chasing after her John exactly how long would John last in the past without some terminator protecting him. It is clear from Born to Run that the three AI expected John to follow CW to the future and that they expect to return to the past. Do you find this valuable? |
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69. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:11 PM EDT
"This confirms my S3 speculation from last April. John would have gotten experience as a soldier fighting in the future. He would have grown up and matured. At some point he would have been sent back to 2009 on a vital mission.This makes sense. Maybe John will recover his lost years by staying in the future for eight years. So, he arrives in the future at the end of Born to Run in the year 2019, fights and grows up for eight years. This could be season 3, with the finale showing them getting the time machine in 2027 and he jumps back to the Zeira Corp basement, rejoining Sarah, rescuing Cameron, and ready to lead. It would be a nice arc. Do you find this valuable? |
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Gusar |
70. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:11 PM EDT
"In the end Alison was mentioned , along with radical changes. We were not going to see Cameron again any timeAh, again with you trying to kill Cameron. How cute. JF has promised Summer that she'd be playing both Allison and Cameron in season 3. Sorry to burst your bubble. I don't mind Allison. I just said in my previous post I agree with Middleton that she'd make for good drama. But I don't believe for one second that John would forget about Cameron or that Cameron was destroyed. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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71. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:12 PM EDT
"Ok stick to that, but a guy that complains about weak stories , you tell me howThe only logical storyline I can think of for how to get Cameron back pretty quickly would be Allison getting abducted/ Cameron infiltrating the camp/ then John somehow switching Bad Cameron's chip with Good Cameron's. Do you find this valuable? |
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72. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:14 PM EDT
I have just read this interview. No mention of Sarah. No more Sarah, though? Indeed, too bad I couldnt enjoy not seeing her anymore!
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Gusar |
73. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:16 PM EDT
"Ok stick to that, but a guy that complains about weak stories , you tell me how they were going to restore Cameron in less than 10 episodes without looking like BSG/jumping the shark bigtime with a new Cameron just flying in from God."Zeira repaired Cromartie's body. So they could just as well repair Cameron's. Then John comes back and puts the chip in the repaired body. No jumping of sharks in that. Another scenario: Weaver in the future takes over a factory and creates a new Cameron body. She for sure has enough knowledge about Cameron to be able to do so. But I think the first scenario is more likely. Do you find this valuable? |
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74. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:26 PM EDT
"Zeira repaired Cromartie's body. So they could just as well repair Cameron's. Then John comes back and puts the chip in the repaired body. No jumping of sharks in that.Also JH may have backed up Cameron onto the mainframe which means she could also be brought back in the past on a cable tethered to the mainframe and later a merge could take place using Cameron's chip .which also contains a copy of Cameron which may be sharing epxeriences with JH. Do you find this valuable? |
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75. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:27 PM EDT
You have to come up with a story that Cameron would be made/ fixed/ pieced together for the good of the story not for just the fans. Its like the resistance and even Weaver would not help John to specifically try to build a terminator. Thats ludicrous. Can you imagine how that conversation would go if JC approached Derek and they do not know each other. I want to capture this specific female terminator or build her ,,,,(wide eyed and drooling for all Derek cares) Derek would consider shooting him on the spot ? For what reasonJohn : Because there is a segment of the fans that think I love Cameron and they demand it ! Do you find this valuable? |
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76. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:36 PM EDT
"Kyle as a villain? Now that would have been a pretty good twist. I can imagine him and John being at odds with each other on account of John's knowledge of Skynet or something. "No it wouldnt have. It would have been the final deathnail into this insane directionless show. God things like this piss me off so much, because at times this show was simply amazing. it was cool. then most other times, it just went off the deep end. it wasnt enough they made John Connor in this show a crying baby. It wasnt enough they made John in the future, hide in a bunker, hide behind Cameron, and have his soldiers openly second guessing him. Its not enough they do the Jameron ship, just to derail it themselves with Riely. Now they wanted to make Kyle a villian. KYLE REESE, people! the brain trust of this series, had no business being on television in the first place. Not the show, the creators themselves. 2 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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77. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:37 PM EDT
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"@tentotwenty: I always shrugged it off, but I think Tucson is right: you should grow a pair. Stop crying! He has said or done nothing that you have not done yet. Go ahead, insult me. I am not like Tucson nor am I like the Jamerons. I keep my head cool and am not afraid of you. You just yell, shout and insult. Unlike the Jamerons, I do not just take it. They do not realise they are the majority and join eachother against people like you, who insult them without a reason. They are good people and have done nothing wrong, but still you go on and insult the crap out of them. It is not Tucson who provokes bad behaviour. It is you who provokes people into going postal because you keep on insulting people. I know I am going to get s#$t from you right now. I do not care. A barrage of insults from you towards me will be seen as a breach of the CoC and I will report. So bite your tongue. I know you already have a warning. I will not hesitate to report.This from the same person (resistancefighter), who 9 HOURS into my membership here, Tried to bully me into what to do and what to say. 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Gusar |
78. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:46 PM EDT
"You have to come up with a story that Cameron would be made/ fixed/ pieced together for the good of the story not for just the fans. Its like the resistance and even Weaver would not help John to specifically try to build a terminator. Thats ludicrous. Can you imagine how that conversation would go if JC approached Derek and they do not know each other. I want to capture this specific female terminator or build her ,,,,(wide eyed and drooling for all Derek cares) Derek would consider shooting him on the spot ? For what reason"Ah, you trying to spin things so they suit your argument. Why on earth would John be doing things just out of the blue?? Why would he start making demands to Derek before he's established any sort of foothold? Oh yeah, so that you can create a silly argument around it. John would first gain a foothold in the resistance before doing anything. Savannah being the way he'd achieve that. While Derek does not know him it this timeline, Savannah does. Also, John does have some knowledge about things, knowledge that would help him gain credibility. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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79. RE: Sarah Connor producer on how the show would have continued
Jun 12 2009, 1:48 PM EDT
"Ah, you trying to spin things so they suit your argument.or, John could have simply stayed behind, and lived through Judgement Day. the way Kyle did, and Derek, and Jesse, and the other 3 billion who were spared the flames of the nuclear holocaust. 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |