"John running around a scorched planet trying to find Cameron and then having his heart broken to find out her chip is in JH. No thanks"

"It's funny how TV John was threatening to shoot people's heads off and trying to stop Skynet (with some intermissions for crying) by the time he was sixteen, while T4's John was crying into cheap beer bottles in his twenties."

"Hey Zable, I really cant take TV John at all, I have no patience for him and his emo crap, I dont I cant, after seeing Bale who I always liked anyway, I am never ever going back to this John, he is not focused on the mission he never has been his only drive in life is Cameron and I dont agree with it, seeing John really be a man, a man who can walk amongst his soldiers, who commanded respect and loyalty, a man who would go into battle unafraid, no way. You guys can have TV John. If you look at those in favor of TV John and those against the arguments are pretty much the same, those in favor tend to be Jamerons and those against tend to be AJ's, T4 John was what TV John should have been, but instead he ran around with his robot and cried when his mother challenged him, and in the end jumped into the future avoiding Jday for a chip, I cannot give him a pass on that. Its not something I grew up watching in the films, I didnt want to see this John, he is not a man, he is boy with a crush, T4 John is a man and more importantly a leader who would die for his troops and never lose focus on the mission. "

"Honestly this was the major problem with this show. John Connor. He is not a man, he will never be a man, of course he cant lead the resistance he is too busy worrying about Cameron's chip, he never lived thru Jday, he never saw these people's struggles he cant lead an army he said so in the Pilot in day one. I wouldn't want to sit thru this either. Especially after seeing the REAL John Connor in T4, no way I am gonna take any more of TV John's emo bullshit. I'd pass as well. "