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CamDer |
40. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 12:22 PM EDT
"Don't by shy CamDer. if you want to post a comment about whether androids make better lovers than cyborgs, or vis versa, go right ahead. lol"no no no... I posted a question that I noticed had already been addressed. So, I removed my question. Do you find this valuable? |
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CamDer |
41. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 12:28 PM EDT
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"Don't by shy CamDer. if you want to post a comment about whether androids make better lovers than cyborgs, or vis versa, go right ahead. lol"And personally (I'm gonna get dropped from alot of friend's lists for this) but in answer to the question you asked me, I think, if I had to choose, I believe that a cyborg would make a better intimate partner than a android would. (Not saying that I would have an intimate relationship with either, mind you) *stands cringing, waiting for inevitable punishment for statement* Do you find this valuable? |
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Aaronalxzdr |
42. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 12:29 PM EDT
"no no no... I posted a question that I noticed had already been addressed. So, I removed my question."Cool. Do you find this valuable? |
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Aaronalxzdr |
43. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 12:38 PM EDT
"Everything, human just sit around, eats, plays, xxx, sleeps... reproduce... let machines do all the work. how about that?So as long as the machine(s) are no more dangerous than a human we're okay? Sooner or later someone will design or reprogram one to exceed human ability - either the government will try to build a super soldier, or a criminal or terrorist will use one to commit a robbery or terrorism. Do you find this valuable? |
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Aaronalxzdr |
44. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 12:43 PM EDT
"And personally (I'm gonna get dropped from alot of friend's lists for this) but in answer to the question you asked me, I think, if I had to choose, I believe that a cyborg would make a better intimate partner than a android would. (Not saying that I would have an intimate relationship with either, mind you)That's my thought too. Do you find this valuable? |
TK-MR |
45. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 12:48 PM EDT
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"So as long as the machine(s) are no more dangerous than a human we're okay? Sooner or later someone will design or reprogram one to exceed human ability - either the government will try to build a super soldier, or a criminal or terrorist will use one to commit a robbery or terrorism. "Yes, without weapons of course. lol Well, human tends do all sort of thing they should not do. So at the end, no machine. but we know that is not possible, we already having humanoid auto robot. soon or later humanoid machine using in none 'friendly society work' would show up. How long? No one know until they show up. Do you find this valuable? |
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MetalHunter |
46. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 1:24 PM EDT
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Okay, guys! Here is a *real* Autonomous Combat Unit (aka Cybernetic Soldier, aka Cybernetic Hunter/Killer, aka the Terminator):http://www.kibertron.com/index.php?mod=pages&form=pages&action=show&pid=4 http://www.kibertron.com/data/galleries/KIBERTRON/v1/body/KIBERTRON_body_v1_i06_1600x1200.jpg http://www.kibertron.com/data/galleries/KIBERTRON/v1/body/KIBERTRON_body_v1_f01.avi Interesting to note that IT speaks Russian very well... ---------------- Characteristics * height: 1.75m * nominal weight: 90kg * degrees of freedom: 100 * feeding: autonomous, electric * autonomy: 12 hours of average load * basic senses: vestibular apparatus; vision; hearing; olfaction; sensory systems for: orientation, distance, position, illumination, touch, pressure, temperature, humidity and self-diagnosis * maximum speed of walking: 2 m/s * maximum speed of running: 4 m/s * intellect: similar to the human intellect, with severely limited reality of existence, through "living" in an approximated five-dimensional space * level of intelligence: zone of experimentation * body: kinematics, dynamics, weight-carrying capacity and resistance to external influences all similar to the human characteristics ----------------- I think it will be very interesting to philosophize if IT is a cyborg or a android, when IT runs after you with 4 m/s and IT say: "Вы человек более!" :P Do you find this valuable? |
Maria17B |
47. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 1:46 PM EDT
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"This is the one thing that's always bugged me about the franchise. My biggest pet peeve. Cyborgs (cybernetic or cybernetically enhanced organisms) are by definition living things whose physiology has been modified in some way by technology. An android, on the other hand, is an anthropomorphic machine, something created to look and act human.Right you are poppet. A while back, when John said, "That's one for cyborgs" and Cameron said, "yes, that's one for us" I said on a facebook group that she is in fact not a cyborg and people were like, oh I wouldn't look into the terminology much, it's not important, at which point I thought they were all insane. Do you find this valuable? |
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Aaronalxzdr |
48. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 1:46 PM EDT
"Okay, guys! Here is a *real* Autonomous Combat Unit (aka Cybernetic Soldier, aka Cybernetic Hunter/Killer, aka the Terminator):Thanks for the link, MH. Is that a working model or a CGI drawing? Do you find this valuable? |
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MetalHunter |
49. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 1:49 PM EDT
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"Thanks for the link, MH. Is that a working model or a CGI drawing?"It is actually a robot soldier, in the experiment stage, built by Russia and Bulgaria. BTW. Somewhat interesting: http://www.kibertron.com/data/galleries/KIBERTRON/v2/hand/KIBERTRON_hand_v2_f01.avi Do you find this valuable? |
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Aaronalxzdr |
50. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 1:54 PM EDT
"It is actually a robot soldier, in the experiment stage, built by Russia and Bulgaria."Cool. Do you find this valuable? |
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TK-MR |
51. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 1:58 PM EDT
"It is actually a robot soldier, in the experiment stage, built by Russia and Bulgaria."Well, waiting for when it in test phase then deploy phase.... interesting/scary thing to see. Do you find this valuable? |
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TK-MR |
52. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 2:06 PM EDT
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"BTW. Somewhat interesting:Very flexible but this is just CGI, if the real model can do that... imagines how fast it can snap neck... Do you find this valuable? |
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Aaronalxzdr |
53. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 2:11 PM EDT
I wonder if there's a girl-bot version? lol
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TK-MR |
54. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 2:13 PM EDT
"http://www.kibertron.com/data/galleries/KIBERTRON/v1/body/KIBERTRON_body_v1_f01.aviif this unit walking like this then... how can it holding gun when moving? it's using its arms to balance when moving on those blocks, if its arms can't use for balance then what? fall over? lol Do you find this valuable? |
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Aaronalxzdr |
55. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 2:15 PM EDT
Here's a thought - the social engines most likely to spur a renaissance in robotics technology are war and sex.
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TK-MR |
56. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 2:16 PM EDT
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"I wonder if there's a girl-bot version? lol"nah they would not bother to make girl-bot version right now, with that kind of Haze mask then no need for boy or girl. lol Do you find this valuable? |
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TK-MR |
57. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 2:20 PM EDT
"Here's a thought - the social engines most likely to spur a renaissance in robotics technology are war and sex."Yeah. that would be first then... damn that are enough to cover for all other need. Do you find this valuable? |
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MetalHunter |
58. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 2:47 PM EDT
It is possible that you have the right ... To be honest, I see the situation as follows: United States: They see robots as some slaves (prejudices?) And are interested to build *slaves*. For example, autonomous combat planes, which have a master confirming mission. Above Iraq, now flying American robot planes, who choose the *target* but the target is *confirmed* by a remote man. Japan: They are interested in civil way of Robotics, they will build the robot companions. Soon, in Japan you can buy a Robo-Girl companion. :P Russia: They are interested to build cybernetic soldiers, to take decisions themselves and to be effective weapons on the front. Here will appear the Terminators and aerial Hunter/Killers. And the Americans will buy Japanese Robo-Girls and they will be hide in tunnels, fearing Russian Terminators and aerial Hunter/Killers... ;) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
The_GodfatherSJP |
59. RE: Terminators are Androids not Cyborgs
Jun 22 2009, 3:17 PM EDT
As to the original subject, here's the Webster's definition of both terms:Android: a mobile robot usually with a human form Cyborg: a bionic human So, according to Webster's Cameron is a Android/Gynoid, not a Cyborg. The term Cyborg was coined in 1960 to describe an organic life form with a necessary relationship with machine parts, i.e. it needs it's "machine" portion to live. Wikipedia specifically says : "Although frequently referred to onscreen as a cyborg, The Terminator might be more properly an android. While it has skin and blood (cellular organic systems), these serve mainly as a disguise and are not symbiotic with the machine components, a trait of true cyborgs. The endoskeletons beneath are fully functional robots and have been seen operating independently, especially during the future segments of the Terminator movies. The T-1000 (which is said to be made completely of a liquid metal) of Terminator 2: Judgment Day is definitely an android. " Do you find this valuable? |
