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jht53
60. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:35 PM EDT
Michael Bay is possibly the worst director in Hollywood. He has two ways of shooting a movie - bad and really, really bad. If you're a fan of overt patriotism, things exploding for no apparent reason and obligatory panoramic shots that circle stunned, sweating and speechless protagonists, then Transformers 2 is likely a film you'd enjoy. Do you find this valuable?    
ClaudeFTW
ClaudeFTW
61. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:37 PM EDT
"Is that a hint of empathy I detect?"
Yes. Enjoy it while it lasts, you won't get to see another one from a Jameronite as awesome and full of win and obviously, modesty as me for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Some posts later

ooooooooooong time.
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#87
62. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:37 PM EDT
"Wasn't he the guy that always had the 2x4 with him?"
Yeah he was retared, back before there was Raw, all we got was an hour Show each weekend, in which fools like him, beat up on the worlds worst jobbers.

I actually Saw Triple HHH's very first match, alogn with the Undertakers first entry. So see these guys still hanging around is pretty strange. for others like piper, its just heartbraking for guys like me.

And no i am not this troll who is taking up their alias's.
I was more of a Sting guy myself.

these days, i only really care about Kelly Kelly.
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horhai
horhai
63. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, no pl
Jun 23 2009, 4:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:38 PM EDT
"Yeah, it's pathetic. Frankly I'd like to force all Americans to grow up a lot in their movie/TV tastes, but then they'll just get mad and call me a Fascist."
did somebody say fascist?
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#87
64. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:40 PM EDT
"Michael Bay is possibly the worst director in Hollywood. He has two ways of shooting a movie - bad and really, really bad. If you're a fan of overt patriotism, things exploding for no apparent reason and obligatory panoramic shots that circle stunned, sweating and speechless protagonists, then Transformers 2 is likely a film you'd enjoy."
I dont want to close my eyes
I dont want to go to sleep
Cause i miss you bad and i dont want to miss a thiiiiiiiii-innnggg.

You mean William Robert Thorten didnt sell the movie for you?
what did you think of Armegedon 2; Pearl Harbor?
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Sully889
65. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:43 PM EDT
"Yes. Enjoy it while it lasts, you won't get to see another one from a Jameronite as awesome and full of win and obviously, modesty as me for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Some posts later

ooooooooooong time."
Thanks..

@#87, He'd always get his board when he was getting his butt kicked.

I stopped watching a while ago, but I do remember the undertaker.
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#87
66. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:48 PM EDT
"Thanks..

@#87, He'd always get his board when he was getting his butt kicked.

I stopped watching a while ago, but I do remember the undertaker."
I saw him slap that board across Andre the Giants face. in Andres lats televised match.

I always swore andre was not acting there, He was genuinely pissed off at that cross eyed idiot.

I also saw the rise of Shawn Michaels Career. to see him now, is also very sad.

To all, enjoy shia Laboooooo in Transformers 2. i hope for your sake, he saves the movie for you.
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Sully889
67. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:54 PM EDT
"I saw him slap that board across Andre the Giants face. in Andres lats televised match.

I always swore andre was not acting there, He was genuinely pissed off at that cross eyed idiot.

I also saw the rise of Shawn Michaels Career. to see him now, is also very sad.

To all, enjoy shia Laboooooo in Transformers 2. i hope for your sake, he saves the movie for you."
I also remember the guy that always had a python with him. WTF was that about?

I think Shia is overrated.
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#87
68. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:56 PM EDT
"I also remember the guy that always had a python with him. WTF was that about?

I think Shia is overrated."
Oh Jake the Snake Roberts, You werent around to see Him and undertaker conspire to ruins him and the late miss elizabeths wedding, did you?

that storyline eventually led to them turning Mark Calloway into a good guy from death valley.
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Sully889
69. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 4:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 4:59 PM EDT
"Oh Jake the Snake Roberts, You werent around to see Him and undertaker conspire to ruins him and the late miss elizabeths wedding, did you?

that storyline eventually led to them turning Mark Calloway into a good guy from death valley."
I don't remember that....
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DeadpooI
70. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 5:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:03 PM EDT
o.0
Just watch these two trailers for Transformers... and your urge to watch it will reveal itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut5fFyTkKv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_T-RGXKGS8
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#87
71. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 5:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
"I don't remember that...."
he gave nacho a snake for their wedding gift. this was in the days od the Million Dollar Man and his cheesy stupid suits.

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Sully889
72. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 5:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:08 PM EDT
"he gave nacho a snake for their wedding gift. this was in the days od the Million Dollar Man and his cheesy stupid suits.

"
I wasn't around for that, but I have seen some videos from those days.
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#87
73. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 5:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:12 PM EDT
"I wasn't around for that, but I have seen some videos from those days."
you werent mssing much,

I loved Raven in the WCW. He typified my angst teenage hood. anyways
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ChrisCoachKKincey
ChrisCoachKKincey
74. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 5:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:23 PM EDT
"That's not good news.

It'll need double its budget to be considered a successful summer blockbuster.
That's, at minimum, $400,000,000, and it stands at $320,300,000 now.

In the US it has made $119.7 million, and won't make much more than that.
So the foreign market is win or lose now.

It has made $200.6 million in the international market now, while being out for three weeks in most countries.
Early last week it had grossed $164.8 million internationally, and therefore (for those who can't work it out on their own) made $35.8 million dollars last week (weekend *included*.)

It made $97.2 million in the first week of international release.
$66.8 million in the second week. (31.3% drop)
$35.8 million in the third and most recent week. (46.5% drop.)

Let's pretend it maintains a 33% weekly drop rate, similar to the first week (which it won't.)
If that was the case (and it'd be really good if it was the case), then Salvation would make:
$22.5 million this week.
$15 million the following week.
$10 million.
$6.6 million.
$4.4 million.

The sum of that is $61 million.
Add that to the $200 million it has already made internationally, plus (an estimated) $130 million that it could make in the US, and the final gross will be around $391,000,000 dollars.

That is both less than T3 and less than twice its budget.

"
Okay. Thanks. But if I went into a venture and it provided that kind of return, I'd be pretty pleased with the results - especially during a worldwide recession.
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DeadpooI
75. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 5:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:37 PM EDT
"Okay. Thanks. But if I went into a venture and it provided that kind of return, I'd be pretty pleased with the results - especially during a worldwide recession."
Anybody who makes these summer blockbusters expects twice the budget to be made back.
Otherwise they don't consider it to have been a worthy use of time and money.
T3 was a disappointment for its makers and it made 216% of its budget. T4 will be lucky to earn 200%.
For comparison, T2 earned 480% of its budget. (T1 isn't really comparable, but it made 1200%.)

And none of the other summer blockbusters have performed as poorly as Salvation.
Star Trek, Wolverine, Angels and Demons have earned at least 200% of their budget (and then some, especially Angels and Demons.)
Up has made 235 million dollars domestically alone (though it won't be released internationally for months.)
Transformers hasn't been out long enough to tell (obviously), but I'll send you a pint of my blood if it underperforms.

So the fact that there's a global recession isn't a valid excuse for not meeting industry standards.
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draconisz
draconisz
76. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, no pl
Jun 23 2009, 5:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:34 PM EDT
The first movie didn't really have a plot. But Optimus and the other autobots are likeable. But the stories never make sense and are kind of irksome.

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Governator_Arnie
Governator_Arnie
77. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, no pl
Jun 23 2009, 5:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:41 PM EDT
TRANSFORMERS IS A TERRIBLE TERRIBLE FILM

BECAUSE I AM NOTT IN IT
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DeadpooI
78. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 5:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 5:51 PM EDT
"I think Shia is overrated."
What the funk?!
You didn't love his hair in Indiana Jones: The Extra-Terrestrial?!
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Sully889
79. RE: OT: Transformers 2 - big, stupid exposions &chases,; all action, n
Jun 23 2009, 6:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2009, 6:15 PM EDT
"What the funk?!
You didn't love his hair in Indiana Jones: The Extra-Terrestrial?! "
meh...
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