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toasty2 |
The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 1:01 AM EDT
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This is the thread for discussing this page: http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Skynet+and+Resistance+LocationsWe are trying to compile a list of locations that can potentially be used by both the resistance and Skynet in fan fictions. Types of locations worth talking about are: Bunkers, Fallout Shelters, Military Bases, Factories, Hardened Facilities, Testing Ranges, and good natural locations for the construction of the aforementioned things. Bunkers will be the primary locations of interest to the resistance. Factories and hardened facilities will be of great interest to Skynet. Skynet can produce its machines, and hardened facilities can become Skynet nodes. It will also be interested in military bases from which it can launch UAV's and HK's. So, discuss! 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?
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PyroDude |
1. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 1:15 AM EDT
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I guess I'll mention the Angeles National Forrest and San Gabriel Mountains as possible locations for either. Maybe more for the Resistance...California Skynet locations you can have Point Loma in San Diego, which has a submarine base (Kraken base?), North Island Naval Air Station for aerial HKs, plus it has piers for Skynet warships. Point Loma is also fairly rocky... maybe there could be bunkers going into the rocks and ground there, it's pretty high up from the water and there's a ton of cliffs around, it'd be fairly difficult to assault, I think. South of Coronado there is also the San Diego Naval Computer and Telecommunications Station as well as Del Mare outlying air field and Imperial Bech. North of San Diego is Miramar and Camp Pendleton. In Virginia you have Norfolk Naval Base which could be used for Skynet warships or submersibles. Oceana Naval Air Station has, IIRC hundreds of F-18s, so it has the capability for tons of HKs. There's a ton of bases around the VA Beach/Norfolk area. Nothing really hardened, but if port facilities survived and airfields... there is Newport News Shipbuilding which is the only shipyards capable of producing aircraft carriers, so that might be beneficial to Skynet. Do you find this valuable? |
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mshig11 |
2. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 1:19 AM EDT
The funny thing is that both Skynet and the resistance want facilities in the mountains, because they provide natural protection, great vantage points, and they are hard to get to.So mountains in general are a very good strategic asset. Do you find this valuable? |
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wilson_low |
3. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 12:56 PM EDT
First, we have to establish locations that are canonical to TSCC. These places don't necessarily exist in real life, but they must surely exist in the realm of screenwriters' and fanfic-ers' minds!Mentioning locations seen in the movies (1, 2, 3, Salvation) might work too, or not. depending.... -Serrano Point - 'nuff said...! -Topanga Canyon - for how it gets blown up by Connor circa. 2027, according to Sumner - Depot 37 and the test range it is located in - birthplace... no, buildplace of Cam-bot! - That aircraft carrier where Allison is imprisoned aboard - name unknown, but can someone verify the size and the class of carrier from its superstucture please? It appears to be docked at some harbour or wharf too, but this may be adjusted to suit the needs of the fanfic - Various bunkers: Hammerhead, Kansas, Eagle Rock, etc - see bunker with graffiti of 132nd SOC for reference (S1EP6) - Zeiracorp building/basement - possibly accessible or still in use by Skynet or the Resistance in the future. Do you find this valuable? |
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Enigma6482 |
4. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 1:05 PM EDT
Serrano Point is supposed to be located in Avila Beach in California I believe. According to this site:http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Serrano_Point_Nuclear_Power_Plant Also there really is a missile testing range in Topanga Canyon. However, from my research it is not consistent with the locations of the actual Topanga Canyon (I think the missile range was in the city while the actual Canyon is located outside the city or something along those lines). I was slightly confused by that. Do you find this valuable? |
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wilson_low |
5. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 1:12 PM EDT
"Serrano Point is supposed to be located in Avila Beach in California I believe. According to this site:Nice of you to drop by, Enigma. I was just cracking my head over my fanfic work-in-progress...! I do need to sort out some of these location issues before too long. Do you find this valuable? |
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Enigma6482 |
6. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 1:21 PM EDT
"Nice of you to drop by, Enigma. I was just cracking my head over my fanfic work-in-progress...!Yeah Topanga Canyon is a bit convoluted. I searched for the place for like an hour (google earth) and found that it could have actually been in like 3 different locations. My personal fav was the missile testing grounds but that was no where near the actual Topanga Canyon. I think that may have been a mistake on the part of the writers. Also, if I remember correctly Skynet's original base (with the TDE) was located in Cheyenne Mountain (in Colorado). For my fan fic I decided to go with Topanga Canyon (as far as the TDE is concerned), b/c if forced to choose which canon to follow I’ll go with TSCC. Do you find this valuable? |
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PyroDude |
7. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 1:41 PM EDT
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China Lake has the largest geothermal plant at 270 megawatts (half of what a small nuke plant produces, IIRC).In Heavy Metal I'm assuming Carter was army, I don't remember, and the only army base I can find on Google maps is Ft. Irwin. The only one which seemed to be out in the middle of nowhere. Ft. Irwin also has: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldstone_Deep_Space_Communications_Complex List of radio telescopes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_telescopes Do you find this valuable? |
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toasty2 |
8. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 5:10 PM EDT
Fort Irwin does look interesting. It's within reach of LA and Las Vegas at the same time, and it might actually avoid the nukes well enough.Anyway, making those locations isn't that hard. I'm interested in possible bunker locations for the resistance. ZeiraCorp can be used as one, but what about sites where one could be built? Somewhere around the San Gabriel Mountains looks plausible, but where else? Do you find this valuable? |
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m1919 |
9. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 5:14 PM EDT
Dunno, the Sierras?
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mshig11 |
10. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 7:08 PM EDT
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Skynet+and+Resistance+Locationssome locations are on that page, you can also add any at anytime (it would be much appreciated as we want a long list of locations) (this thread if for/from that page) Do you find this valuable? |
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PyroDude |
11. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 7:45 PM EDT
I want to point out that all those bases are probably targeted by Russian missiles. Area 51, Edwards, Ft. Irwin may be away from big cities, but will still be targeted.Unless Skynet can h4x attack the Russian launch computers or take control of missiles and redirect them away from military bases to cities. Do you find this valuable? |
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toasty2 |
12. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 7:50 PM EDT
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Well. Some of the missiles headed toward important targets might be shot down, so there's an excuse to have some bases somewhat intact. Skynet has to launch its UAV's/HK's from somewhere...
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m1919 |
13. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 7:51 PM EDT
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"I want to point out that all those bases are probably targeted by Russian missiles. Area 51, Edwards, Ft. Irwin may be away from big cities, but will still be targeted.Skynet was a defense system, it would have anti ballistic missile countermeasures. I'm sure it would save assets it deemed important to its use later in the war. I doubt Skynet would let something as important as Cheyenne mountain for example, get hit by any warheads, even though it is designed to and will withstand a direct or near direct hit from a 30Mt nuclear warhead. @Toasty: Skynet doesn't necessarily need any intact military airfields to launch H/Ks from, but it would need them for UAVs though. Do you find this valuable? |
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mshig11 |
14. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 7:59 PM EDT
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"I want to point out that all those bases are probably targeted by Russian missiles. Area 51, Edwards, Ft. Irwin may be away from big cities, but will still be targeted.wait would Russia really target Area 51, it's in the middle of Nevada, in a dessert, the middle of nowhere. Then again it depends on how many nukes Russia dumps on the US :P Do you find this valuable? |
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m1919 |
15. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 8:02 PM EDT
"wait would Russia really target Area 51, it's in the middle of Nevada, in a dessert, the middle of nowhere. Then again it depends on how many nukes Russia has to dump on the US :P"Russia still has a significant number of nuclear weapons in service, ranging from SLBMs, free-fall bombs, ICBMs and probably cruise missiles as well. Thousands of available warheads. They'd probably send a few that way. It is an active military installation after all. Do you find this valuable? |
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PyroDude |
16. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 8:02 PM EDT
In the Cold War Area 51 was a testing grounds, so yeah, I'd think they'd target it. I guess Skynet could shoot down missiles. Maybe it somehow uses some nukes as a nuclear ABM shield like the one around Moscow? Do you find this valuable? |
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m1919 |
17. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 8:05 PM EDT
"In the Cold War Area 51 was a testing grounds, so yeah, I'd think they'd target it.Skynet would probably use directed energy weapons (stationary lasers) and anti-ballistic missiles. There are already a number of such missiles in development or already in service that could do the job fairly well. http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-174.html Something like this for example, but more developed. Do you find this valuable? |
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mshig11 |
18. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 8:08 PM EDT
It would also depend if Skynet deems Area 51 worthy of saving, like if it had some UAV, H/K, Terminator, or future weapon prototypes Skynet might save it.it all depends, we don't exactly know how a defense A.I. thinks Do you find this valuable? |
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m1919 |
19. RE: The Skynet & Resistance Locations Thread
Aug 13 2009, 8:11 PM EDT
"It would also depend if Skynet deems Area 51 worthy of saving, like if it had some UAV, H/K, Terminator, or future weapon prototypes Skynet might save it.Well, it's not really a defensive AI completely, it's more like a mix of both. If it sees something as being valuable, like an automated production facility or something of the like, it will attempt to save that. Do you find this valuable? |