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Schmacky	Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 2:11 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 2 2009, 2:11 AM EDT http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/09/game-of-thrones-hbo-.html Post reply 16 out of 16 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: Lena Headey
Turncoat	1. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 2:48 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 2 2009, 2:48 AM EDT "http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/09/game-of-thrones-hbo-.html" Well I'm not familar with the books. But if lena is in it then it has certainly went up in quality that's for sure. ;) I might give it a looksee now. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Schmacky	2. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 2:54 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 2 2009, 2:54 AM EDT "Well I'm not familar with the books. But if lena is in it then it has certainly went up in quality that's for sure. ;) I might give it a looksee now." i've never read them either. But supposedly it's already a very hyped up and fan following show.. and it hasn't even started production yet on the pilot haha Post reply Do you find this valuable?
NordWest	3. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 4:14 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 2 2009, 4:14 AM EDT I do not know the story and it does not seem to be something of interest to me but this new show most likely is some qulitity tv. Unfortunately this does not mean that it will also work on tv. If Lena wants to do further tv, then this show might be a good choice. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
R.Daneel_Olivaw	4. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 8:56 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 2 2009, 8:56 AM EDT She is easily typecast as royalty, eh? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
The_GodfatherSJP	5. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 10:53 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 2 2009, 10:58 AM EDT HBO usually makes very good TV. I'm a big fan of the Sopranos and Entourage. But they're also EXACTLY the kind of network that can handle this kind of TV. Game of Thrones would never succeed on a Broadcast Network. That's just one reason why HBO received 99 Emmy nominations for this past TV season. They're driving ALL the other networks crazy. I gotta say though, Lena seems to be generating a bit more buzz in the mainstream press than Summer did joining Dollhouse. That's probably more because of the show and the network than the actress, to be honest. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zable_Fahr	6. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:05 AM EDT "HBO usually makes very good TV. I'm a big fan of the Sopranos and Entourage. But they're also EXACTLY the kind of network that can handle this kind of TV. Game of Thrones would never succeed on a Broadcast Network. That's just one reason why HBO received 99 Emmy nominations for this past TV season. They're driving ALL the other networks crazy." Say, do they ever do shows like TSCC? I don't think I've ever heard of them doing scifi (but then, I know next to nothing about HBO). Post reply Do you find this valuable?
NordWest	7. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:08 AM EDT " I gotta say though, Lena seems to be generating a bit more buzz in the mainstream press than Summer did joining Dollhouse. That's probably more because of the show and the network than the actress, to be honest." Everything else would be very odd given the fact that Summer is just a guest star for two episodes and Dollhouse is just a to be canceled low budget show - ok it is still Whedon though, who usually creates buzz. Back on topic: Now what does this mean for TSCC? Nothing, because we do not have s3 and if once a DVD movie would happen, then most likely before Lena's new show starts or may be she could even do such a movie in between. I have not checked how big Lena's part is yet. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
The_GodfatherSJP	8. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:09 AM EDT Nah. They've never done any Sci-Fi. Usually it's comedy, drama, or historical epic. I think it's because they're not interested. And no, they're not going to pick up TSCC for a Season 3. Judging from the buzz with this new series, if HBO picks it up Lena will be unavailable for TSCC as a SERIES. Direct to DVD movies are another matter though. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zable_Fahr	9. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:12 AM EDT "And no, they're not going to pick up TSCC for a Season 3. Judging from the buzz with this new series, if HBO picks it up Lena will be unavailable for TSCC as a SERIES. Direct to DVD movies are another matter though." Oh, I didn't hope for them to pick us up. I was just toying with the thought of if there ever might've been a chance WB could have sold us to them instead of FOX, and what that might've meant for our show. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
The_GodfatherSJP	10. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:23 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 2 2009, 11:29 AM EDT Well, HBO doesn't reach nearly as many viewers as FOX could. The Sopranos finale was the most watched show on the network and it came in at about 10/12 million if I remember correctly. WB wanted millions watching it, so did FOX. They were thinking megahit series because of the Terminator name. If the show had been picked up by HBO, Friedman would have had considerably more freedom for his ideas. The network usually takes a hands off approach and lets the showrunners do their thing. There's very little mandate for anything, and there doesn't have to be: HBO can show R-rated material without a problem. That means more gore, but probably no standalone S2 episodes (or at least fewer episodes, no blood on the wall bit), probably much more course language (e.g. Derek Reese was a soldier, they're not exactly known for eloquence). It does mean fewer episodes a season, most HBO series have seasons of 12-15 episodes every year. A Broadcast TV ep runs about 40-45 minutes, HBO's run 50-55 (no commercials, that's why), so there'd be fewer episodes on the whole. Because of the truncated time JF couldn't slow pace the story, but I think most of the fans would prefer it that way. Basically JF would have been given free reign to do what he wanted without much network interference. HBO lets the viewers judge. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zable_Fahr	11. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:37 AM EDT "Well, HBO doesn't reach nearly as many viewers as FOX could. The Sopranos finale was the most watched show on the network and it came in at about 10/12 million if I remember correctly. WB wanted millions watching it, so did FOX. They were thinking megahit series because of the Terminator name. If the show had been picked up by HBO, Friedman would have had considerably more freedom for his ideas. The network usually takes a hands off approach and lets the showrunners do their thing. There's very little mandate for anything, and there doesn't have to be: HBO can show R-rated material without a problem. That means more gore, but probably no standalone S2 episodes (or at least fewer episodes, no blood on the wall bit), probably much more course language (e.g. Derek Reese was a soldier, they're not exactly known for eloquence). Basically JF would have been given free reign to do what he wanted without much network interference. HBO lets the viewers judge. " 10/12 million is, of course, still massive by our later standards... Do we dare guess what kind of numbers we would have seen had they been the ones to air us? That is, would it have been lower or higher than our Friday average? And all that freedom naturally sounds awesome. Though scifi clearly isn't their thing, for a show based on rather dark R-rated movies it sounds like a place like HBO would have been a more logical home. I'm very curious what kind of show Friedman would have made had we been there instead. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
The_GodfatherSJP	12. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:42 AM EDT The numbers would most likely have been lower, even for the premiere. True Blood is a big cable hit for the network and it pulls about 3.5-4.0 viewers every week. I doubt Terminator would have broken the 4 million mark even for the S1 premiere. As for the freedom, well, he has the freedom to do what he wants for 12 episodes. That's not a lot of time. Basically he gets a half season to tell the story he wants to tell. You try pairing down S2 to 12 episodes, see what you'd get to keep. It'd be a real pain. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zable_Fahr	13. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:50 AM EDT "It does mean fewer episodes a season, most HBO series have seasons of 12-15 episodes every year. A Broadcast TV ep runs about 40-45 minutes, HBO's run 50-55 (no commercials, that's why), so there'd be fewer episodes on the whole. Because of the truncated time JF couldn't slow pace the story, but I think most of the fans would prefer it that way." Yeah, I think the 13 episode season pace seemed to suit him much better. With the episodes running longer too, the overall time does add up to a couple of of extra episodes worth of material, I guess. That is, 13 episodes of an HBO TSCC would be eqiuvalent of, say, 15 episodes of FOX TSCC (assuming each episode would run 10 minutes longer on HBO). But that's just the overall running time, of course. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zable_Fahr	14. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 11:55 AM EDT "The numbers would most likely have been lower, even for the premiere. True Blood is a big cable hit for the network and it pulls about 3.5-4.0 viewers every week. I doubt Terminator would have broken the 4 million mark even for the S1 premiere. As for the freedom, well, he has the freedom to do what he wants for 12 episodes. That's not a lot of time. Basically he gets a half season to tell the story he wants to tell. You try pairing down S2 to 12 episodes, see what you'd get to keep. It'd be a real pain." So essentially, it would have been our Friday numbers, then? Hmm... Say, how do they handle the shooting of True Blood? Is it shot in Canada? And cutting down S2 to 12 or 13 episodes would have been hard, but that's because it was written with 22 episodes in mind. The story would have been handled very differently had it been a 13 episode season. Whether or not it would have been better is anyone's guess, though. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
The_GodfatherSJP	15. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 12:04 PM EDT Actually the numbers would have been 3.6 million for the premiere AT BEST. Granted, with HBO, the people watching are already inclined to view the material, so there wouldn't have been the same drop off we saw in Season 1, and this is purely guesswork on my part, but I would be very suprised if S2 had finished with 2.5-3 million, or more. Now, for a Cable show, that's usually par of the course in terms of viewership. Think is, because everyone in Hollywood views Terminator as this blockbuster franchise, there would have been noise about it underperforming (again). Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dahok	16. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 12:12 PM EDT "She is easily typecast as royalty, eh?" She has a classical beauty about her. From my perspective it is her body type and hair that complete the image. Summer's more my age and type, but Lena is just so **** sexy. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Zable_Fahr	17. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 12:18 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 2 2009, 12:19 PM EDT "Actually the numbers would have been 3.6 million for the premiere AT BEST. Granted, with HBO, the people watching are already inclined to view the material, so there wouldn't have been the same drop off we saw in Season 1, and this is purely guesswork on my part, but I would be very suprised if S2 had finished with 2.5-3 million, or more. Now, for a Cable show, that's usually par of the course in terms of viewership. Think is, because everyone in Hollywood views Terminator as this blockbuster franchise, there would have been noise about it underperforming (again)." It's funny... The perception of Terminator as a major blockbuster franchise is part of what got our show made in the first place; but it also seems to be working against us, every step of the way. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Schmacky	18. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 12:36 PM EDT "I gotta say though, Lena seems to be generating a bit more buzz in the mainstream press than Summer did joining Dollhouse. That's probably more because of the show and the network than the actress, to be honest." I hadn't realized it was a competition between the two on who would get more exposure over landing a job.... And imo, Summer Glau is huge in the genre, but she's just now getting out there in the mainstream. Lena Headey, imo, has been out there a bit more in the mainstream due to 300. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
The_GodfatherSJP	19. RE: Lena Headey cast in HBO pilot Sep 2 2009, 12:55 PM EDT I was reading the names of the websites reporting the news. I didn't notice Reuters posting an article about Summer on Dollhouse, for example. The number of articles appear to be similar, but who's doing the reporting is a little different. As for the perception of Terminator, well that's what happens when people think your big. You don't do great and people perceive it as a failure. It's what happened to the New York Yankees from 2001-2004. Even though they made the playoffs each of those years and played in the World Series twice, fans and commentators viewed their seasons as failures because they didn't win it all. One would think 6 World Series appearances and 4 wins in 9 years would be considered quite an accomplishment. So why the perception? Because they spent a ton of money and were always in the playoffs, winning the division. Their reputation and success changed their expectations. The expectations for Terminator are that it's a huge multimillion dollar franchise that must be a blockbuster release. They quite clearly don't match reality. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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